PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

Goenitz said:
What's wrong with that statement? are their demigods in between? If I go to a math teacher and say Allah k baad aap hi madad kar sakty hain math teaching ma.. whats wrong wit that?

I think the Quran and Hadith are full of similes, metaphors, parables, etc. it include personalities, nations, sky, ants, etc.

We can use tragedies and sacrifice as precedences like we do in courts, daily life and so forth. You know, who has stopped ration trucks near Mangla cantonment? It is not JAAC. So, can't we draw this parallel to Karbala, especially in Muharram?

No, the Army is in power and the status quo. It uses every term to its benefit, like patriotism, nationalism, law, state writ, Islam, Mujahideen ⇋ Khawarij, etc.
Surah 9:9, "to exchange God's message for a small price"

What cultism has to do with it? First of all, it is an academic or linguistic issue, and then comes the question of whether it is used appropriately.

Next is like anything if someone uses it for constructive or ill purposes, like anything else, such as using weapons, religion, water, money, etc.
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Your math teacher is supporting my logic and you cannot see it - which is why I say cult.

When you ask your math teacher that you need help - for calculus - because he is that math teacher in front of you for that specific problem. You did not elevate him to a status next to Allah, nor did you think that hey, if not this math teacher perhaps I can find someone else or a solution - A senior PTI leader, drunk on national television, making this claim is not a linguistic footnote (and your support for him) just said - "Allah ke baad koi hai woh Imran hai" - meaning forget about Rasool - if Allah decided to not help you will say Ya Imran! Straight forward SHIRK!

Now, if anything can be used for good or evil then go back to the idea of the math teacher - then you have left that point open about his intention being only good(even when the anchor on that show went -"Ye kya keh rahein hain aap".. this was during PTI rule) when it is very likely he was making a Shirk loaded statement.

The cultism charge is not about whether Imran Khan is a good or bad politician.
But that this movement has reached a point where its members cannot process criticism of the leader without experiencing it as an attack on something sacred.


You skipped past the drunk senior leader on television and went straight to defending the linguistics... I rest my case.
 
Cipher212 said:
Look at how they reacted to Sohail Afridi being selected as CM. They have their little walled off club house and WE are not part of it.

And once again I state to every fauj-eet on this forum who's baap is not at least a Colonel. YOU aren't part of that club either.
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you have to under faujeeeets mentality.

A rule of law society is not what they want ... in fact they hate it. That is why you see specific pattern over 7 decades.

> Non stop destruction of a independent Judiciary

> dismantling of nation building institutions

> muzzling the free press

> Attack the rise of any national popular leader


etc etc


so why do they do this?..

Simple : Power with out any responsibility or accountability

now who doesn't love that :)
 
Cipher212 said:
Pinki is the single worst thing that happened to Imran. In his quest for falling back into the fold of Islam after a life of partying he went straight for a bloody Pirni from Pakpattan.

But even then, this pales in comparison to what the others have done. Asim Munir is also suffering from a Melissandre-Lite evidently. His family members (on his wife's side) are all in great posts. Biggest example being Mohsin Naqvi.
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I dont think so.

lets say he never married .. do you really thing these characters would have done any thing different?

also dont believe what the establishment based media says... they are liars... they made similar stories against Nawaz (whom I hate) , Bhutto etc they make up cock and bull story to blacken their target.

Khan stood up and gave the establishment the finger... it as simple as that....


also dont pick on munir... all COAS before him did the same... remember Mushy accused Nawaz of Highjacking a plane.... lol... poor nawj he probably couldnt even spell highjack,
 
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Oscar said:
Cultism is cultism - and to that every hypocrisy is justifiable. The establishment does it for theirs , PPPP for theirs and these ones for theirs.
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but establishment is best....love the chips packets pictures..
 
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hasssanali8998 said:
no just dont
nothing will ever be comparabel to the tragedy of karbala and pain that it inflicted on my prophet
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I agree. However, we can draw lessons from it, and camp two sides based on that.
Perhaps, it's more sensitive to you, so let's leave it here.
 
Oscar said:
The cultism charge is not about whether Imran Khan is a good or bad politician.
But that this movement has reached a point where its members cannot process criticism of the leader without experiencing it as an attack on something sacred.


You skipped past the drunk senior leader on television and went straight to defending the linguistics... I rest my case.
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I am not sure what that person said. However, it appears that he was wrong if the newscaster pointed that out (they are normally educated and careful in word selection).
 
LC150 said:
I dont think so.

lets say he never married .. do you really thing these characters would have done any thing different?

also dont believe what the establishment based media says... they are liars... they made similar stories against Nawaz (whom I hate) , Bhutto etc they make up cock and bull story to blacken their target.

Khan stood up and gave the establishment the finger... it as simple as that....


also dont pick on munir... all COAS before him did the same... remember Mushy accused Nawaz of Highjacking a plane.... lol... poor nawj he probably couldnt even spell highjack,
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I feel I'm right to pick on Munir because he has the authority to stop such practices but he doesn't. He likes keeping the status quo clearly.


I am just a random voice on the internet but if you want to believe then just know that the way Pirni got married to Imran Khan, like Oscar said earlier reads like some sort of crazy conspiracy. Because it might just be.

The characters involved in setting these two up are fishy and overall the way she spun a web around IK and made him do odd things is also very fishy.

I genuinely think if not for her, IK would not have had a single case on him. They would have had to make up random murder charges to hold him in prison.
 
Boys, hearing massive paramilitary crackdown in Azad Kashmir, On going protests and a lot of people are either abducted or killed? Is that true ?
 
Goenitz said:
I agree. However, we can draw lessons from it, and camp two sides based on that.
Perhaps, it's more sensitive to you, so let's leave it here.
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Why leave it? You should expand on it and drive home your POV. Do not get bullied and concede your moral highground.
 
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