Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[BonPlan]

That is how they started against Iran. That is exactly how they built the case. And for some reason, our people choose to remain in denial every time. They are openly telling their intention, and you are saying they don't mean it. How many countries have to go down before you realize the pattern or even learn any lesson?

Iran is one thing : a terrorist state, with proxy, military weak, and saying for decennials that they want to eradicate Israel.
Egypt and Turkey are another beasts.
Why do you want israel to fight against one of them, or worst against the two ? Absolutely crazy. it's full BS.

 

[hussain0216]

The biggest threat to Israel is Turkey and Egypt

That's because both are big countries

Populations of around 100 million each

Large militaries and for Turkey especially a growing military industry

But Egypt can catch up, especially if Egypt shakes off the useless west and makes alliances with Turkey, Pakistan, China etc and suddenly has access to weapons without strings

This is what Israel is terrified about


The middle east has been controlled via the USA and Europe, so limited gimped weapons
Strong leaders attacked and removed
Weak autocrats supported


ALL FOR THE JEWS, all for Israel

Israel is a cancerous tumor infecting the middle east

BUT change is inevitable and the world is changing, Europe is ageing and becoming increasingly ineffectual

USA itself is changing and couldn't even beat Iran


Iran will want revenge on Israel and will arm and prepare

Turkey has been preparing for over 20 years now, Say what you want about Erdogan but he wanted a powerful independent Turkey

Egypt whilst ineffectual now has multiple options


And new alliance across the middle east can emerge with money, resources, close to a billion people and even nukes via Pakistan

This is what is now being discussed as the west loses it's shines and lurches to the right




Why is Israel worried???? Because Iran still stands and will come back with a vengeance

Because Turkey is preparing SYRIA to retake Syrian territory including the Golan Heights

Because great effort is being made to pull Egypt away from Israel

Because the U.S is heavily in debt and tired and the politics is changing and anti Israel feeling is surging

Israel will Lurch from one conflict to another, and it's predicting conflict in Syria and that's why it is so eager to try and nullify Hezbollah


Nothing will work, the clock is ticking for Israel

 

[hussain0216]

Iran is one thing : a terrorist state, with proxy, military weak, and saying for decennials that they want to eradicate Israel.
Egypt and Turkey are another beasts.
Why do you want israel to fight against one of them, or worst against the two ? Absolutely crazy. it's full BS.

Because Israel is a cancerous tumor

The word terrorist has lost meaning

The Zionists are scum
Hindutva are scum

You in Europe are barley concealed white supremacists scum


In order to deal with scum, you can't be a liberal pussey

You need old school islamic fire and brimstone that burns your enemies

 

[Yasser76]

Not so sure.
Turkey is kept in NATO just to have a kind of control on it from uncle Sam. Now that russia is weak, no military interest to have Turkey except the control.
Turkey is not seen as a trustable ally.

Literally the complete opposite of what Rutte has said, NATO want Turkiye for it's massive industrial base. Try and read the news in France better Rakesh

 

[hussain0216]

Literally the complete opposite of what Rutte has said, NATO want Turkiye for it's massive industrial base. Try and read the news in France better Rakesh

NATO is over, the U.S only needs Europe as lap dogs

The U.S may leave and Europe will be responsible for it's own defence

Turkey has no need to fight Russia for Europe

Both sides are getting benefits for the moment, but it's NATO and Europe that are desperate to keep Turkey inside and onside

 

[Lulldapull]

There is no doubt that Israel has set their sights on Türkiye. They are calling it the Sunni axis. Pakistan, Türkiye, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The messaging has already begun.

We need to work together and make Israel squeal with frustration.

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What sunni axis man? These guys sawdi Judea/ AL-Egypt and this AL-Turkiya are a trio of twinks. You know this right?

All three owned by da Jew franchise no?

How can they fight bhai?

Lets not kid ourselves here.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Brothers from Egypt and Türkiye, please listen to it. Especially watch the clips of Israeli politicians, religious leaders, and academics building the case against you. It's time for Pakistan, Turkiye, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia to sign a defense pact immediately.

The worst thing Türkiye can ever do, is leave NATO. As long as it is part of NATO, there is a significant barrier for Israel to attack Türkiye as the treaty has deterrence value.. Why do you think Trump has been trying so hard to destroy NATO? It is from his paymasters and they need it gone to take on Türkiye ..

The best and smart thing for Türkiye is to stay in the NATO family and build its military quickly.

 

[Ali_Baba]

My prediction is that soon Türkiye will be thrown out of NATO, or, in case of war, NATO won't come to help Türkiye.

How, and why? Türkiye is the 2nd largest military in NATO !!!!

 

[Zarvan]

How, and why? Türkiye is the 2nd largest military in NATO !!!!

And you think that would stop Israel from messing with them? No, it doesn't; you don't understand the minds of people who think they are God-chosen ones. Plus, they have a history of taking on several countries at the same time. Finally, slowly the case will be built against Türkiye's NATO Membership also.

 

[Zarvan]

Iran is one thing : a terrorist state, with proxy, military weak, and saying for decennials that they want to eradicate Israel.
Egypt and Turkey are another beasts.
Why do you want israel to fight against one of them, or worst against the two ? Absolutely crazy. it's full BS.

Where I say I want that? Did you watch the video? It shows Israeli leaders, including their former Prime Minister and most likely the future one also, plus their Academics and Religious leaders building the case.

 

[Ali_Baba]

And you think that would stop Israel from messing with them? No, it doesn't; you don't understand the minds of people who think they are God-chosen ones. Plus, they have a history of taking on several countries at the same time. Finally, slowly the case will be built against Türkiye's NATO Membership also.

Israel may well have its plans, and it needs to try and execute those plans sooner than later. Right now, because of the state of the TuAF, Israel has an advantage that it wants to try and press home before Türkiye's new military systems come online (eg Kaan / IADS / HAVSOJ etc ..)

Türkiye can only do what is continuing to do, which is prepare as quickly as possible with maybe more tempo than they were originally planning, and when the time comes, it will have to face the military reality at that time however it maybe.

Let them try and build the case, and see what becomes of it, and in the interim - prepare.

( And, maybe Türkiye will cut off Israel's oil supply if attacked, or will Türkiye claim international treaty overrides its own security and allow the pipeline to continue - I am being a troll on this statement btw ).

 

[Musings]

Mere speculation at this time

Dont think anythings off the table with mad dog Netanyahu. He needs wars to for his own survival. Wars means he has an excuse to not be answerable to the courts for what the Israeli authorities want stands charged with fraud, embezzlement and bribery in three separate cases.
Only way he keeps these charges on a back burner is Israel being involved with wars and conflicts. No one has the stomach for these wars apart from this mad bastard. War with Turkey would be naive and foolish.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

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Brothers from Egypt and Türkiye, please listen to it. Especially watch the clips of Israeli politicians, religious leaders, and academics building the case against you. It's time for Pakistan, Turkiye, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia to sign a defense pact immediately.

Turkiye maybe but never Egypt, because its Israeli client state just like Behrain and UAE.

 

[FuturePAF]

That is how they started against Iran. That is exactly how they built the case. And for some reason, our people choose to remain in denial every time. They are openly telling their intention, and you are saying they don't mean it. How many countries have to go down before you realize the pattern or even learn any lesson?

It’s more likely they will get Erdogan and his party out of power in the next election. In the meantime, keep hammering away at groups in Lebanon, while also going after groups in Syria, even those in the government, with links to Türkiye. Supporting the Kurds is one of their old tricks, so it’s good Türkiye has tried to nip as much of the Kurdish militant groups through peace treaties.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

My prediction is that soon Türkiye will be thrown out of NATO, or, in case of war, NATO won't come to help Türkiye.

There's no mechanism in NATO where a member country can be "thrown out". You can only voluntarily leave like the French did after the Suez Canal Crises or how Donald Trump is threatening to leave the alliance.

Also don't forget, Turkiye is the second largest military in NATO.