Türkiye's NATO membership | News & Developments

[东风夜放花千树]

TOTAL LIE! False!

its 2026 and entire NATO (exclusing US) has never fielded a 5th gen fighter of its own (only fielded US made ones). Forget even about 6th gen. Those 6th gen are on drawing board, a fantasy ideas which are atleast 30 years away from reality. France and Germany officially terminated the joint Future Combat Air System (FCAS) on June 8 2026. So you microscopic NATO countries are 30 years away from 6th gen and we have already seen chinese 6th gen flying (the prototypes), its going to come online in service in few years.

Entire NATO (except US) has ZERO 5th gen of its own currently in service. China will have around 1000 5th gen fighters by 2030. It has around 500 right now.

Now let's come to Turkish 5th gen. Again it was impossible for Turkey without US engine. China is testing / flying its 6th gen with massive 3 engines of its own. Turkey is testing 5th gen with american engines. Feel the difference? To Turkey's credit, atleast its the only country other than US in NATO which is making 5th gen of its own but using american engines. Now you will say Turkey is also building its own engines. Well we will see if and when they come into service. Its going to take a long long time and still performance won't match the american counterparts.

China's fifth-generation aircraft numbers have basically met the military's needs. The Chinese military is already ready to bring sixth-generation aircraft into service. Currently, there are efforts to upgrade fifth-generation planes and export them to other countries.

China values its reputation and assessments, so fifth-generation aircraft will only be exported to friendly countries. They might even send technicians for maintenance.

On May 7, 2026, in a report marking the first anniversary of the India-Pakistan war, China's authoritative media published an interview with the Chinese team sent to Pakistan during the conflict.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Its not a 6th gen Fighter with WS-10/15 Engine
China has no technology to develop a true 6th gen Fighter Jet with Variable-Cycle Engine

Ultimately, China has built an airframe that looks like a 6th gen Jet. However, whether the software, engines, and networking underneath meet that threshold remains an open question

and Chinese J-20 has bigger RCS to compare with F-22 , F-35 ... even KAAN




F-35 is a multi-national project
Turkiye was a global partner of the F-35 program

Turkiye's return to the F-35 program is still being discussed by official authorities


NATO allies are expected to have a total of approximately 1,800 F-35 Fighter Jets by 2030

And Turkiye , France , The UK develops their own stealth Fighter Jets

NATO is far ahead of China-Russia

I don’t want to argue with your point.

The wars where the U.S. and Israel invaded Iran have shown that the Epstein coalition couldn’t withstand missile attacks.

China’s missile capabilities far surpass Iran’s. What I can tell you is that Iran imported Chinese missile technology last century.

As for variable cycle engines, all the news is fake. China’s military has the highest level of secrecy. If you could get Chinese military secrets from the internet, you’d be qualified to be an academician at the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

To NATO, the United States is its father. To the United States, NATO serves as a subordinate and a source of sustenance.

European countries used to enjoy protection from the U.S., cheap industrial goods from China, and cheap energy from Russia and Middle Eastern countries. This made Europe the most comfortable place for humans to live.

But now, it's all over.

 

[MMM-E]

I acknowledge NATO was strong, powerful alliance once upon a time. That era has gone for good.

Only USA Navy + Turkish Air Force + French Air Force + British Air Force have more Fighter Jets than China

Also USAF has over 1700 Fighter Jets including F-22 and F-35

The NATO alliance has approximately 3,500 active combat Aircraft (fighter and interceptor jets) in total.

Russia and China are technologically very backward to compare with B-2 and B-21 stealth Bombers and F-22 , F-35 Fighter Jets

The U.S. Air Force plans to have at least 100 B-21 6th gen stealth Bombers in its future fleet
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Turkish ANKA-III flying wing stealth UCAV to carry 275 km SOM-J stealth Cruise Missiles ... Radars can not detect it from even 100 km away

S400 and HQ-9 can detect the ANKA-III from 32-45 km away and GAME OVER

 

[royalharris]

Only USA Navy + Turkish Air Force + French Air Force + British Air Force have more Fighter Jets than China

Don't try to ride on America's coattails. Apart from the United States, the rest of the NATO countries are all trash.
Even the United States treats them as cannon fodder and subordinates.

 

[royalharris]

It's hard to imagine that in these so-called developed NATO countries, many people have recently died from the heat because they don't even have air conditioning.
Meanwhile, in the supposedly "backward" China, people are already installing air conditioners in pig farms.

Even China's third-tier fighter jets currently in service can completely outperform Europe's most advanced fighters. Pigs on Chinese farms can enjoy air conditioning, while Europeans die from the heat.
In response to global climate heat, China has been vigorously promoting green energy, while Europe and the United States continue to rely heavily on fossil fuels such as oil, coal, and natural gas.

 

[MMM-E]

The NATO daddy US got its bases destroyed by Iranian missiles, just imagine what would happen against generations ahead Chinese missiles. Also note, China has world's largest rocket force.

NATO Missile Projects


China has DF-17 , DF-21 MRBMs and DF-26 IRBM for conventional strike


USA and Turkiye has also hypersonic MRBMs

USA : DARK EAGLE and AGM-183 ARRW
Turkiye : TAYFUN Block4 and CENK ( 2.000 km )

also Turkiye develops 6.000 km YILDIRIMHAN hypersonic Ballistic Missile
( Mach 9 inside the atmosphere and Mach 25 outside the atmosphere )


Armed with Thermobaric Warhead
Gazap’s thermobaric blast reaches 5,432°F (3,000°C) delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold




In the region, Turkiye is balancing the missile deterrence of Iran and Russia.

 

[Eşbah]

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[MMM-E]

Don't try to ride on America's coattails. Apart from the United States, the rest of the NATO countries are all trash.
Even the United States treats them as cannon fodder and subordinates.

İs Europe trash ? Your post is trash

China doesnt have European company like AIRBUS
China doesnt have European company like ROLLS ROYCE , MTU and SAFRAN
China doesnt have European companies like THALES , ASELSAN , LEONARDO , SAAB

-- Europe holds the technological edge in heavy armor engineering, crew survivability and high-pressure metallurgy

European Tanks like Leopard 2A8 ,CHALLENGER-3 and ALTAY are better than Chinese Tanks

-- European Submarine technology is superior to Chinese one
Europe maintains a clear edge in acoustic stealth and reactor technology

-- European E/O Systems , Optic sensor technology is better than China

-- Europe holds a significant technological edge over China in both Helicopter design and turboshaft engine technology ( including Attack Helicopter )


-- Europe holds a significant technological edge over China in naval engine technology, particularly in high-end marine gas turbines and advanced submarine propulsion

-- Europe holds a definitive technological edge over China in main battle tank engine technology


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Europe including Turkiye produce Corvette , Frigate , Destroyer , Submarines , Aircraft Carriers .... ( USA , Europe , China , Russia )

Europe has advanced AESA Radar and EW technologies

Europe has ramjet powered BVR Missile technologies with AESA radar seeker
( METEOR Block-2 , GOKBORA and GOKHAN )

Europe has SLBM and nuclear weapons

Europe has Air Defense Systems like SAMP-T and SIPER-2
Also exo-atmospheric interceptors under development ( ASTER-30 Block2 BMD and SIPER-4 )

Europe produces AEWC , Transport Aircraft and Air refueling Tanker

Europe has advanced 4,5th gen Fighters like RAFALE F5 , Eurofighter T5 and GRIPEN-NG

Europe including Turkiye has great UCAV and unmanned stealth Fighter Jet technologies like AKINCI , ANKA-III , KIZILELMA , NEURON , TARANIS



China is superior to Europe in hypersonic Missile technology
but Turkiye , France , The UK-Germany develops hypersonic Missiles

China is ahead of Europe in 5th gen Fighter Jet technology
but Turkiye , The UK-Italy develops KAAN and GCAP stealth Fighter Jets
France also to develop its own stealth Fighter Jet


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RESULT : Europe engineers some of the most advanced, highly sophisticated and precise weapon systems on the planet

if needed , Europe easily can form advanced and great military power even without USA

 

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Trump causing Chaos at the European's expense, benefits Turkey, as it creates a bigger dependence on Turkey. lol