Ex-Singapore Diplomat analysis on Pakistan with Pakistani journalists

[Jango]

it's very much "Business as Usual".

Immediately makes me think of @VCheng 's "system is working as it's designed".

We should not be ok with the business as usual.

 

[RescueRanger]

Immediately makes me think of @VCheng 's "system is working as it's designed".

We should not be ok with the business as usual.

Better men and women than us have tried to fix it. You can't fix a gamified system, the house always wins.

 

[Jango]

I demand at least 10 Pakistan Zindabad threads on PDF per day.

Aap thora sabr karain kuch dinon main sab ko FM zindabad kay naray laganay parain gay.

 

[RescueRanger]

Aap thora sabr karain kuch dinon main sab ko FM zindabad kay naray laganay parain gay.

Lol behave

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Looking at all the pushback in this thread, what is actually wrong with the above? Or are we just going to implement an ISPR like media ban in our critical abilities as well?

Ignorance and false confidence is making them refuse to read the writing on the wall is what it is. Then they are ironically accusing me of belonging to PTI despite my very obvious anti-PTI stance.

 

[Jango]

Better men and women than us have tried to fix it.

Motto of our society.

You can't fix a gamified system, the house always wins.

Because most who are in a position to do something are part of the pie and content with how things are. Everybody is content with the house because they get fed their own quota. Selfish apathy at this point more than anything. Khair, long discussion.

 

[Jango]

Ignorance and false confidence is making them refuse to read the writing on the wall is what it is. Then they are ironically accusing me of belonging to PTI despite my very obvious anti-PTI stance.

Been there done that my friend. The polarization in political debate has become toxic tbf, all across the world.

Yesterday I saw the Mamdani tweet about keeping AC temps at 78, and the pushback he got on that on accounts of being a Commie etc etc was shocking. Not everything has to be black and white.

 

[RescueRanger]

Motto of our society.

Because most who are in a position to do something are part of the pie and content with how things are. Everybody is content with the house because they get fed their own quota. Selfish apathy at this point more than anything. Khair, long discussion.

I spent 10 years trying to fix our disaster management system only for a retired Brig sahib to call me a "glorified tea boy" during a PDMA meeting. I stopped caring after that point, same Brig saab's son got implicated in the ERRA scandal and to save their skin the powers that be dumped all the blame on a scapegoat Grade 20 civil servant:

Scandal rocks Erra’s squeaky clean image

‘Erra did most of its work in the first five years. The pace of progress has slowed down since.’

www.dawn.com

Welcome to Pakistan, "BAU" is our middle name.

 

[VCheng]

Immediately makes me think of @VCheng 's "system is working as it's designed".

We should not be ok with the business as usual.

Sooner or later, most will agree with what I have always said, but everyone will take their own sweet time getting to the realization that I have always said it correctly.

 

[VCheng]

I spent 10 years trying to fix our disaster management system only for a retired Brig sahib to call me a "glorified tea boy" during a PDMA meeting. I stopped caring after that point,

And at that point, I decided to leave the country when I did. Sad, but true. Not my loss.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Been there done that my friend. The polarization in political debate has become toxic tbf, all across the world.

Yesterday I saw the Mamdani tweet about keeping AC temps at 78, and the pushback he got on that on accounts of being a Commie etc etc was shocking. Not everything has to be black and white.

Sadly there is zero room for introspection or change in Pakistan. They are extremely happy with their medicority and will gleefully relay to you that "Yes our system is corrupt, yes it barely manages the bare minimum but we should accept it". They are happy with their position and don't want to improve.

If you suggest otherwise, you are actually a representative of one of their innumerable enemies of the state. It is not a capacity issue as much as it is a legacy mentality of being content with their own medicority and clinging onto the status of "not collapsed" and hoping God keeps it that way because surely he cant abandon Pakistan, can he?

It is a rotten society with a rotten mindset.

 

[RescueRanger]

It is a rotten society with a rotten mindset.

When was the last time you walked down the street, saw a wrapper strewn across the road and thought to yourself, let me pick that up... This is known as citizenship and civic pride... Words like "introspection" and "change" are seeds planted that rise from the ground up, or as they say... "From tiny acorns do mighty oak's grow".

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

I put it to you that this analyst stands discredited due to the actual content of his works, not some baseless bias. I am happy to be corrected if wrong. Show me where in his article he has any concern for Pakistan's existential threat at her eastern border.

As far as I can gather, this is simply another Indian analyst seeking to force Pakistanis to jump to his tune, a tune that benefits Hindustan and Afghanistan, when we are perfectly capable of solving our own problems by our own mechanisms. Part of our solution involves unavoidable kinetic effort against our open enemies, for which a strong military is inevitable (has the author acknowledged this?).

I and most Pakistanis are perfectly satisfied with our hybrid system, not because we "need it to hold the country together" but rather because we need it to confront an external threat common to all Pakistanis since Pakistan's inception.

They seek our history, our land, our people, and our legacy. This is but one method they will deploy to enable that.

Let me add one other point that may have escaped you - they don't care ONE IOTA what type of government we have if it serves Indian interests. We could be running around caves like wife-beating Talibs with flowing locks of princess hair and they would love us for it if we were compliant to their needs. And lo,the Kabulite regime is their friend for this precise reason.

He actually acknowledges outright that Pakistan's geography puts it in a bad position.

He did not once discredit Pakistan's right to conduct operations in Afghanistan. He did not even defend democracy as he outright called all Pakistani politicians useless - explicitly. It's obvious you are looking for a way to deflect and ignore his words and you conveniently found it in him being half-Indian. But most of what he said was entirely rational and logical.

As long as you continue to offload every single blame and deflection to the external and ignore the dysfunction that is internal, you'll always remain a failing state with excuses. That is the stark reality. No one cares for excuses. They want to know what you did to solve the issues, first internally.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Paj33t detected, opinion rejected.

Now will you censor and warn him the way you did my message or is this allowed? @RescueRanger

Anyway it proves my point about deflection, imagine being so mentally degenerate and brainless anything not self-glazing is seen as Indian. No wonder you are failed state being taken to the cleaners by poor tribal Afghans of all people.

 

[RescueRanger]

He actually acknowledges outright that Pakistan's geography puts it in a bad position.

Our Geography is our strength.

If you can get the full text of this article (if you have access to google scholar or Nexus) it is worth reading and exploring:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388339611_Geo_Economic_significance_of_Pakistan_A_Strategic_Nexus_for_Regional_and_Global_Dynamic