Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Meengla]

Which is to take offensive action against Hezbollah at a time it sees as opportune. Hezbollah wants to avoid getting in this clash at any cost. But now it's at the cost of having the war be brought to them and it would be bizarre if they just ate up the strikes and didn't go down with a fight. There have been strategic miscalculations in regards to the post October 7 landscape. And Hezbollah and others are now paying a price for it. Houthi's in Yemen made correct strategic decision and did not face some extremely dire consequences some warn of. They showed willingness to escalate and recognizes there's a limit to what US and Israel can enforce on the region.

It is not a fair comparison to draw between Lebanon and Yemen.

Firstly, Yemen doesn't have much to lose and seems to have higher tolerance to take casualties and material losses. Lebanon is internally a much more divided country and the residents there have tragic memories of the previous bombardments of Lebanon, especially of Beirut. Hezbollah doesn't have the political consensus to take the losses like the Houthis do.

Second, is geography. And that works for or against both the Houthis and Israel. Israel cannot inflict the kind of damage to Yemen unlike to Lebanon--even with the American help from the Red Sea--and likewise the Houthis cannot cause the kind of damage to Israel like Hezbollah can do. If you remove the blockade of the Port of Eilat then Hezbollah has caused far more damage to Israel than Houthis have been able to. Even the Port of Eilat is of relatively minor significance to the Israeli commerce.

My assessment remains as I have been saying for months: Hezbollah will only get totally involved when they see Gaza being totally annihilated; in that scenario, Hezbollah would have to. Until then, they are exercising a 'strategic restraint' and certainly preparing for the big war should it come. And, to repeat: Both the Americans and the Iranians don't want to expand the war and have their proxies told so.

 

[Falcon29]

Excellent post as if the Zionist terrorists can achieve total victory against Hamas in Gaza then Hezbollah is left all alone to fight these savages.

Hezbollah has enough deterrence with its 150,000 rockets/missiles to prevent large scale Zionist bombing of Lebanon, and should have attacked at end of October as per their own “red line” of ground invasion of Gaza.

The Zionist military adventures most probably would have been over very quickly then as they could not have taken on Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthi’s at the same time.

Agreed. The window for intervention was around November, imo. It's hard to resupply Hamas as Gaza is extremely isolated. As the window for intervention passed, that means there isn't a policy enacted to save Hamas. And saying we won't allow them to go extinct isn't saying much that's up for interpretation. The reality is there won't be a intervention. And Hamas has to go underground and try to hold for longer. And everyone has accepted this. Question now is if Israel attacks Rafah, then what will happen from Egypt, Jordan, international community, etc....


But, for Hezbollah, Israel is exploiting situation to achieve some policies it wants there and probably had planned from before. Nothing Hezbollah did justifies such a campaign from Israel but Israel managed to isolate them from Gaza situation and now is trying to gradually escalate and develop a case against Hezbollah. And domestic support for such a war will be hard to gain as Lebanese will say well we couldn't help Gaza anyway, so why how fight, etc.... It just depends on what Israel will do and what US backing will look like. Expansion of campaign can just mean slightly more than low intensity strikes on daily basis but over time it adds up. They're trying to degrade Hezbollah's capabilities to highest degree possible within limit of what they can absorb in responses. So far, they're willing to accept occasional shelling of the few towns on their northern border as a price for this. Now if Hezbollah shells northern cities, they will have a decision to make and may have to make way for diplomacy or choose to declare a operation which international community would blame them for instigating.

 

[Falcon29]

It is not a fair comparison to draw between Lebanon and Yemen.

Firstly, Yemen doesn't have much to lose and seems to have higher tolerance to take casualties and material losses. Lebanon is internally a much more divided country and the residents there have tragic memories of the previous bombardments of Lebanon, especially of Beirut. Hezbollah doesn't have the political consensus to take the losses like the Houthis do.

Second, is geography. And that works for or against both the Houthis and Israel. Israel cannot inflict the kind of damage to Yemen unlike to Lebanon--even with the American help from the Red Sea--and likewise the Houthis cannot cause the kind of damage to Israel like Hezbollah can do. If you remove the blockade of the Port of Eilat then Hezbollah has caused far more damage to Israel than Houthis have been able to. Even the Port of Eilat is of relatively minor significance to the Israeli commerce.

My assessment remains as I have been saying for months: Hezbollah will only get totally involved when they see Gaza being totally annihilated; in that scenario, Hezbollah would have to. Until then, they are exercising a 'strategic restraint' and certainly preparing for the big war should it come. And, to repeat: Both the Americans and the Iranians don't want to expand the war and have their proxies told so.

Read my post above. I will say your assessment is wrong. Gaza is already totally annihilated. What's the red line in your assessment? Invasion of Rafah? Only 10 people left with guns to resist? It doesn't make sense. The truth is Hezbollah is not gonna get involved. Gaza situation is more long term. It's out of Hezbollah's hands at this point. Hamas has to go underground and put up resistance like it did pre-2006 when Israel was occupying parts of Gaza. It has to conserve resources to survive.

Hezbollah intervening at the last second wouldn't make sense and wouldn't stop Israel from invading Rafah while symtanousely attacking Lebanon. It would also be really unpopular with Lebanese people to intervene after Gaza has been destroyed, and a intervention wouldn't really save anyone in Gaza at that point.

Hezbollah doesn't actually believe it's 'next' if you will. It's waiting things out to see if a ceasefire in Gaza will be reached and believes that more to be a bluff by Israel. And will try some kind of diplomatic solution to avert such a Israeli campaign on Lebanon. Is Hezbollah prepared for a defensive round of fighting ? I believe so. Is Hezbollah prepared to make risky, strategic calculations? In my opinion, they're not. And situation is contingent upon Israels next steps.

 

[Meengla]

Read my post above. I will say your assessment is wrong. Gaza is already totally annihilated. What's the red line in your assessment? Invasion of Rafah? Only 10 people left with guns to resist? It doesn't make sense. The truth is Hezbollah is not gonna get involved. Gaza situation is more long term. It's out of Hezbollah's hands at this point. Hamas has to go underground and put up resistance like it did pre-2006 when Israel was occupying parts of Gaza. It has to conserve resources to survive.

The Gazan resistance is not as annihilated as it seems to you. Even per a recent Israeli assessment, they underestimated the Hamas fighters by about 6000 plus you add in other resistance forces. There is a reason Israelis still haven't launched an assault on Rafah despite the daily BS about Netanyahu approving an invasion plan. It will be a bloodbath even for the invading forces.
As to your saying resistance going underground, how so?? That can only happen if IDF itself holds the territory and to do so would mean daily ambushes. Nah, those days are gone. There will be several thousand fighters in Gaza who would blend in with civilians and keep killing Israelis from close range.

Hezbollah doesn't actually believe it's 'next' if you will. It's waiting things out to see if a ceasefire in Gaza will be reached and believes that more to be a bluff by Israel. And will try some kind of diplomatic solution to avert such a Israeli campaign on Lebanon. Is Hezbollah prepared for a defensive round of fighting ? I believe so. Is Hezbollah prepared to make risky, strategic calculations? In my opinion, they're not. And situation is contingent upon Israels next steps.

Why wouldn't Hezbollah be 'next'? It was Hezbollah which unilaterally started launching attacks into Israel after October 7. On top of the Israeli casualties, 60,000 Israelis have been forced to leave northern Israel and they won't go back until and unless Hezbollah moves away from the border and that was actually proposed through the French to Lebanon--while offering to help the crippled Lebanese economy--but Hezbollah didn't. Israel will HAVE TO go after Hezbollah once the Israelis feel assured that have Gaza totally under control. I don't think Israel can afford a real two front war until then.

Anyway, this is hypothetical debate. We are all guessing. In my understanding, Israelis are in a really bad situation and I am starting to see Israelis even saying things like 'let it be and stop the war. Hamas is already too beaten to mount a threat in future'. Defeatism is setting in in Israel.

 

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Iran Condemns Israeli Airstrikes on Aleppo​

• March, 29, 2024 - 11:56
• Politics news

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Foreign Ministry of Iran strongly condemned the Israeli airstrikes on Syria’s northern province of Aleppo that killed dozens of soldiers and civilians in the wee hours of Friday.​

In a statement on Friday morning, Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Nasser Kanaani expressed sympathy with the Syrian government and nation, specifically the families of victims of the “brutal” Israeli attacks.
“The attacks are a clear violation of the international rules and regulations, have violated Syria’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and pose a serious threat to the regional and international peace and security,” the spokesman said.
Kanaani also called on the international community and the United Nations Security Council to condemn those Israeli attacks, take preventive measures, and hold the aggressive Zionist regime accountable.
He said the concurrence of the Israeli airstrikes and the attacks by the terrorist groups on a number of areas in Syria is clear proof of the Israeli regime’s support for the terrorist groups and currents in Syria which have targeted Syria’s national security and the security of the region for years and have killed thousands of innocent civilians to achieve their sinister objectives.
Highlighting the Zionist regime’s failure and disgrace in the Gaza Strip, Kanaani denounced the Israeli attacks on Syria as a desperate and cowardly attempt to maintain and broaden crisis in the region with the purpose of making up for its defeat in the battle against the Palestinian nation and resistance groups.
It is a global and international responsibility to counter the Israeli regime’s perilous adventurism that violates regional security and stability, the Iranian spokesman underlined.
Israeli airstrikes on Syria’s Aleppo have reportedly killed at least 38 people, including soldiers and civilians.
The attacks at about 1:45 am on Friday (22:45 GMT on Thursday) targeted several areas in Aleppo’s countryside, Syria’s Ministry of Defense said.
The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said in posts on X that the Israeli strikes hit a weapons depot near Aleppo International Airport, resulting in a series of large explosions.

 

[RescueRanger]

Apparently, it doesn’t even matter if a Palestinian converts to Judaism, the mindset of the IDF has been to shoot first ask questions later.

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That man was no threat whatsoever. Just another example of soldiers within the Israeli military acting out their genocidal tendencies.

Swine!

 

[FuturePAF]

That man was no threat whatsoever. Just another example of soldiers within the Israeli military acting out their genocidal tendencies.

Swine!

I brought up this example because there were those that converted during the holocaust and didn’t save them.

Were Jewish converts killed in the Holocaust?

Answer (1 of 23): Yes. The Nazis defined “Jewishness” almost exclusively in racial terms using pseudo-biological theories. Jews or people with Jewish ancestry who converted to Christianity (sometimes generations ago) were still Jews (Or Mischlinge - mixed race) as far as the Nazis were concerned...

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[RescueRanger]

I brought up this example because there were those that converted during the holocaust and didn’t save them.

Were Jewish converts killed in the Holocaust?

Answer (1 of 23): Yes. The Nazis defined “Jewishness” almost exclusively in racial terms using pseudo-biological theories. Jews or people with Jewish ancestry who converted to Christianity (sometimes generations ago) were still Jews (Or Mischlinge - mixed race) as far as the Nazis were concerned...

www.quora.com

Im not going to talk about the religious choices of the dead man. That is between him and Allah. But the actions of the soldier is utterly worthy of condemnation at every level.

There have been other cases in history where converts have been targeted because they were seen as “outsiders” and “impure”.

 

[FuturePAF]

Im not going to talk about the religious choices of the dead man. That is between him and Allah. But the actions of the soldier is utterly worthy of condemnation at every level.

There have been other cases in history where converts have been targeted because they were seen as “outsiders” and “impure”.

Not trying to go into his choice, but that it didn’t matter to the soldier and that it’s just more proof that all Palestinians, regardless of religious affiliation are at risk under Israeli rule, including Israel proper. It’s a matter of race not religion, and it’s the overall conflict is a land conquest issue not a religious dispute.

 

[Falcon29]

Intended to mass murder and terrorize Palestinians in Rafah to force ethnic cleansing:

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[Falcon29]

They don't need 2,000lb bombs for Gaza. They do use them overwhelmingly in Gaza to maximize terrorism and casualties on children and women.

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[Falcon29]

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[Falcon29]

Netanyahu spat in Biden's face last week then commanded the goy to immediately send free bombs and F35 jets. The Jews continue to dominate the goys. Only people they can't subjugate are Hamas in Gaza. And that's why they want to exterminate everyone in Gaza.

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[Falcon29]

There's no 'deal'. It was all given to Israel for free while Ukraine gets nothing. A lobbying group can't enforce such realities. The Jewish-American community is heavily dominating the US and runs the show. And will advance Jewish terrorist satanic messianism and supremacy at all and any cost. That's why the world must stop them and catch and execute their magicians as well. They have to be all put in a mega Guantanamo Bay and monitored to prevent any more attempts of triggering Jewish satanic supremacist Armageddon.

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