Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[K2RULEZ]

Correct! Well let's hope cooler heads prevail and no one dares think they can launch a nuclear strike against another nuclear Nation..

Rational actors is what we need controlling those weapons

That all depends on Israel's behavior. Land occupation offers little hope for peace and any ambition to expand further into the Middle East is a recipe for disaster. Even as we speak, tensions between Iran and US/Israel are flaring up yet again.

 

[KAL-EL]

That all depends on Israel's behavior. Land occupation offers little hope for peace and any ambition to expand further into the Middle East is a recipe for disaster.

Israel is in nuking anyone. They have no wish to commit national suicide.

As do other nations do not want to commit national suicide

It doesn't all depend on israel. It depends on other states and their rational actors. What Israel is doing right now in Gaza is horrific.

But despite that, no one's going to Nuke Israel over it and commit national suicide

 

[K2RULEZ]

Israel is in nuking anyone. They have no wish to commit national suicide.

As do other nations do not want to commit national suicide

It doesn't all depend on israel. It depends on other states and their rational actors. What Israel is doing right now in Gaza is horrific.

But despite that, no one's going to Nuke Israel over it and commit national suicide

It all begins in Gaza and Lebanon and expands further into the Middle East. What has happened in Gaza and Lebanon isn't just atrocious. It is daylight robbery and genocide on an unprecedented scale. You cannot convince Saudi Arabia and other GCC nations that everything is fine. The fact that Saudi Arabia has abandoned the Abraham Accords and made a complete U-turn is highly telling.

Israel has, at the very least, inadvertently triggered the formation of a Sunni axis, an emergence that Israel itself deeply fears.

 

[KAL-EL]

It all begins in Gaza and Lebanon and expands further into the Middle East. What has happened in Gaza and Lebanon isn't just atrocious. It is daylight robbery and genocide on an unprecedented scale. You cannot convince Saudi Arabia and other GCC nations that everything is fine. The fact that Saudi Arabia has abandoned the Abraham Accords and made a complete U-turn is highly telling.

Israel has, at the very least, inadvertently triggered the formation of a Sunni axis, an emergence that Israel itself deeply fears.

I wouldn't honestly hold my breath about a Sunni Axis just yet.

And even if such an axis comes to fruition, that won't change the nuclear MAD scenario

There's also the USA that needs to be factored in the equation.

We're talking the real world here not some command and conquer game

 

[K2RULEZ]

I wouldn't honestly hold my breath about a Sunni Axis just yet.

And even if such an axis comes to fruition, that won't change the nuclear MAD scenario

There's also the USA that needs to be factored in the equation.

We're talking the real world here not some command and conquer game

The Sunni axis is already a reality. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia joining hands is enough. The defence pact between both nations is widely reported.

 

[nahtanbob]

The Sunni axis is already a reality. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia joining hands is enough. The defence pact between both nations is widely reported.

Pakistani leaders are trying to curry a few peanuts from saudi rulers. no one in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan is taking on Israel if it means taking on America

 

[KAL-EL]

Pakistani leaders are trying to curry a few peanuts from saudi rulers. no one in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan is taking on Israel if it means taking on America

That's why on one of my earlier posts, I mentioned the US Factor. You're not just fighting Israel, your potentially fighting the US

 

[PK781]

Uhh the point I was making is Israel would obviously not use nuclear weapons first. But if nuclear weapons were used against Israel first there would be a Samson option event no doubt.

well if nukes are used, then the entire world is ukered. Nothing will b left
like a MAD for everyone on the planet

 

[KAL-EL]

well if nukes are used, then the entire world is ukered. Nothing will b left
like a MAD for everyone on the planet

Exactly! Civilization as we know would come to an end. At least most civilization. That's why the people that control these weapons need to be rational actors.

 

[PK781]

Pakistani leaders are trying to curry a few peanuts from saudi rulers. no one in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan is taking on Israel if it means taking on America

You simply do not(cannot) understand the bond between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, it has nothing to do with America. Not sure why you keep bringing America into it, is it to feel comfortable about your fatherland israel ?


The islamic block is for tackling the zionism and the greater israel plan. Your obsession with Pakistan in every thread is really unhealthy. You should seek medical help.

 

[nahtanbob]

You simply do not(cannot) understand the bond between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, it has nothing to do with America. Not sure why you keep bringing America into it, is it to feel comfortable about your fatherland israel ?


The islamic block is for tackling the zionism and the greater israel plan. Your obsession with Pakistan in every thread is really unhealthy. You should seek medical help.

if Uncle Sam comes knocking friend or foe, we know what the response is. aren't you tired of sequels?

 

[PK781]

if Uncle Sam comes knocking friend or foe, we know what the response is. aren't you tired of sequels?

Please you continue to enjoy being relegated to IRRELEVANCE in geopolitics.

 

[delta2]

Israel would undoubtedly resort to nuclear weapons without hesitation if it felt pushed to the brink of conventional destruction. As a few members on this forum have already pointed out, there should be no mistake about that.

Türkiye, Egypt or anyone else in the Middle East except Pakistan has no capability to respond to Israeli nuclear blackmail.

If the Israelis (read USA/UK/France) launch a nuclear attack against either Turkiye or Egypt from Israel, you can rest assured that about 40 or so Pakistani nukes will explode in the atmosphere, about 200 meters above ground, and inside many of the top secret bunkers in the occupied Palestine. Both the Egyptians and the Turks know this, hence their relaxed attitude about it. They both seem to have a certainty about such kind of issues.

Such an attack will only come once all of the occupying leadership is back to safety in their bunkers during a potential war.

Long before that happens, the Europeans will run away back to Europe and abandon Palestine because they will have no more fuel coming their way.

There are many complex scenarios that can occur.

But if anyone thing that Pakistan will not retaliate if the KSA comes under attack or if specifically the Hijaz is threatened, they are living in a delusional world. Pakistan, despite being ruled by a criminal mafia, will set the enemy's house on radioactive/chemical/biological fire. And this is not an emotional outburst, it is something Pakistan knows it will have to do and will do if the need arises.

 

[KAL-EL]

If the Israelis (read USA/UK/France) launch a nuclear attack against either Turkiye or Egypt from Israel, you can rest assured that about 40 or so Pakistani nukes will explode in the atmosphere, about 200 meters above ground, and inside many of the top secret bunkers in the occupied Palestine. Both the Egyptians and the Turks know this, hence their relaxed attitude about it. They both seem to have a certainty about such kind of issues.

Such an attack will only come once all of the occupying leadership is back to safety in their bunkers during a potential war.

Long before that happens, the Europeans will run away back to Europe and abandon Palestine because they will have no more fuel coming their way.

There are many complex scenarios that can occur.

But if anyone thing that Pakistan will not retaliate if the KSA comes under attack or if specifically the Hijaz is threatened, they are living in a delusional world. Pakistan, despite being ruled by a criminal mafia, will set the enemy's house on radioactive/chemical/biological fire. And this is not an emotional outburst, it is something Pakistan knows it will have to do and will do if the need arises.

.Well it does look like a little bit like an emotional outburst a little bit, but hey, get it off your chest whatever makes you feel good.

Nobody's buking anyone man come on, stay in the real world. It's not a video game

 

[delta2]

you do realise every year the Zionists have a meeting called Annual Jewish congress where they meet to consolidate power and discuss how they can control more people ?

its publicly advertised and Netanyahu openly said the 8th front war is the war on social media and buying of Tik TOK was for Israel

and yet we have people still denying Jews control the world

well this is why

The Jewish groups might have gaines some political influence in the West, but they do not control the world. They are one war away from being thrown into the ocean by the Arabs. You can win many wars, but you cannot win EVERY war. The Muslims will eventually win a war and that will be the permanent end of that entity.


The Jews are an extremely small minority in the West and they have to rely completely on the guarantees and good intentions of the Western power centers. JUST 80 years ago the same power center forced them to march into warehouse sized ovens. The West can turn on a dime my brother. You don't understand the Anglo-Saxon/Western mind if you think the Jews are in control.