Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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They are probably out of all the interceptors hence so many videos surfacing of direct hits on american bases, now is the time to escalate.

Interceptor manufacturers appear to be struggling to meet the needs of both ukraine and middle east due already diminished western manufacturing on top of rare earths blockade by china.

Trumpy is escalating to de-escalate
 
They are probably out of all the interceptors hence so many videos surfacing of direct hits on american bases, now is the time to escalate.

Interceptor manufacturers appear to be struggling to meet the needs of both ukraine and middle east due already diminished western manufacturing on top of rare earths blockade by china.
Iran will probably agree to a ceasefire instead of continuing
 
They are probably out of all the interceptors hence so many videos surfacing of direct hits on american bases, now is the time to escalate.

Interceptor manufacturers appear to be struggling to meet the needs of both ukraine and middle east due already diminished western manufacturing on top of rare earths blockade by china.
The problem is that our missiles are hitting their targets but we do not know how to reestablish deterrence. The US doesn't care about getting its bases in Bahrain and Kuwait pounded.
 
War. Casus belli


Exactly. So, US just carved a niche that didn't exist. And now orange wants arabs to pay 20%... keeping pace, right?


So, protecting your own territory is a tool of war? Keeping and aggressor from the other side of the world is critical to Iranian defense.


That is funny. The MoU is between the aggressor and the aggrieved party. Which is why it had the billions set aside for reconstruction... thaf was not reconstruction of anything in US.
Maybe US should have signed it with someone call it whatever...

And listen, I have no reason to complain, protest and object. It is what it is at the end of the day.

The MoU is null and void... So, another change...


Why start a protection racket and ask 20%... I mean...
Yes... Brits did have colonies here and they seemingly transitioned. US established it's neocolonial presence largely in last 30 years.


Well, that would by extension... right? Iran wouldn't want the US presence for it's own sake. The racketeering is an extension of American presence... hmm and before the US invasion how was that... don't just make stuff up as you go along.



If it doesn't then move along... you are defending the undefendalble... US doesn't need your counsel to do what it does... it will... inspite of you...

What are you even typing, bud? You make up nonsensical facts, are answered, and then proceed to provide nonsensical counter-arguments to arguments that were never made.


1) "Why is Hormuz up for negotiations?" -> "Because it was shut down by Iran" -> "War. Casus belli"........What?

2) "Iran blocked the Strait for its security concerns" -> "No, it blocked it to use economic pressure as a tool of war" -> "So, protecting your own territory is a tool of war?"........What?

3) Iran is blocking the Strait so that the US can't carve the niche that wouldn't exist if Iran wasn't blocking the Strait?

I'll time myself out if you can't formulate a coherent post.
 
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They are probably out of all the interceptors hence so many videos surfacing of direct hits on american bases, now is the time to escalate.

Interceptor manufacturers appear to be struggling to meet the needs of both ukraine and middle east due already diminished western manufacturing on top of rare earths blockade by china.

Trumpy is escalating to de-escalate
The interceptor stockpile may be low and you may be seeing rationing for the most important facilities. This means allowing some hits on less important facilities.
If they were out of interceptors, Trump and Co would not be behaving this recklessly.

The interceptor math is important though and I think will determine when this conflict finally ends.
 
The interceptor stockpile may be low and you may be seeing reserving them for the most important facilities. This means allowing some hits on less important facilities.
If they were out of interceptors, Trump and Co would not be behaving this recklessly.

The interceptor math is important though and I think will determine when this conflict finally ends.
Its just my opinion but i think we are seeing madman theory taking place in real time, if they had a few interceptors to spare one would think that they would be protecting the salti base in jordan at the very least where most of their f-35s and mq-4c were stationed but irani ballistic missiles appear to have pulverized that base not once but twice in the last few days.
 
Especially since most of those bases are empty of personnel as it is.
I don't believe that's ever been the case. You don't spend billions building bases and even more effort staffing them just to abandon them in a conflict. The bases have been degraded but they remain staffed with US personnel. You can't run a war just from the air and neither from Florida.

It is possible that some US forces have been moved to more secret locations in the Gulf.
 
Jut nuke the US carrier strike groups. Tactical nukes will be more than enough for that. You don't need real-time satellite navigation. Just an approximate location would be enough.

Then pass the note to the Americans that if the US responds, Tel Aviv, Haifa, all Arab oil and gas infrastructure will be hit as well. And considering that we have already established our second strike capability with our deeply buried missile sites, the US would not risk nuclear Armageddon.
What a great way to get every city in Iran nuked in retaliation!
 
I don't believe that's ever been the case. You don't spend billions building bases and even more effort staffing them just to abandon them in a conflict. The bases have been degraded but they remain staffed with US personnel. You can't run a war just from the air and neither from Florida.

It is possible that some US forces have been moved to more secret locations in the Gulf.
The US has a lot bases out there. Not all are published either.
 
For as long as Pakistan cannot break the begging bowl(cheap loans, IMF bailouts, and "foreign remittances") and fixes its own local economy with real organic growth, it's chain will always be yanked by its masters ( hard on the nose for Pakistani's but true ). I would ignore his statement, I am sure Iranian leadership did, they know the deal.

Summed up well. Especially the bolded part.
 

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