Ali_Baba
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Wow, thanks, must have missed that, is that defo a J-35 and not a J-10C cockpit?
Looks like a J10CE to me.
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Wow, thanks, must have missed that, is that defo a J-35 and not a J-10C cockpit?
"AVIC released an image of a PAF pilot in J 35 with caption buyer gives good reviews and we still have people who believe China will not sell it or not so soon."
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this was j10 posted after the may confict...
"AVIC released an image of a PAF pilot in J 35 with caption buyer gives good reviews and we still have people who believe China will not sell it or not so soon."
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Asset | Predictor | Arrival Date | Predicted | Outcome |
| J-35 | flyingorca | 6 September 2025 | 18 August 2025 | Got it Wrong |
| J-35 | Zarvan | 31 December 2025 | 17 August 2025 | Got it Wrong |
| J-35 | Zarvan | 31 March 2026 | 17 August 2025 | Wrong again |
| J-35 | Yasser76 | 23 May 2026 | 14 January 2026 | Got it wrong |
| J-35 | Zarvan | 30 June 2026 | 17 August 2025 | Mamu lied |
| J-35 | MastanKhan | 31 July 2026 | 08 July 2024 | TBC |
| J-35 | flyingorca | 31 July 2026 | 01 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | AeronautIR | 14 August 2026 | 01 August 2025 | TBC |
| J-35 | Aziqbal | 14 August 2026 | 27 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Ali_Baba | 14 August 2026 | 09 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Jinn Baba | 14 August 2026 | 09 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | hyperman | 31 August 2026 | 01 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | hasssanali8998 | 07 November 2026 | 15 August 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | maverick | 31 December 2026 | ?? January 2024 | TBC |
| J-35 | studsmart | 31 December 2026 | 14 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | NA71 | 31 December 2026 | 15 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | RocketLaw | 31 December 2026 | 16 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | TopGun786 | 31 December 2026 | 16 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Distant_Observer | 31 December 2026 | 05 July 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Starlord | 23 March 2027 | 27 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Salza | 23 March 2027 | 02 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | NA71 | 31 March 2027 | 07 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | NGAD IS THE BEST | 31 March 2027 | 16 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Pakistanithinktank | 31 December 2027 | 15 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | That_Guy | 31 December 2027 | 28 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Tariq Habibi Afridi | 14 August 2028 | 16 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | falcon34 | 20 August 2028 | 14 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | lightening f57 | 30 August 2028 | 14 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | hasssanali8998 | 07 August 2028 | 15 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | SiliconBit (silicon0000) | 31 December 2028 | 08 July 2024 | TBC |
| J-35 | Pakistanithinktank | 31 December 2028 | 15 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Olympus81 | 31 December 2028 | 27 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | MH.Yang | 31 December 2028 | 16 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | NGAD IS THE BEST | 31 December 2028 | 16 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Corax | 01 February 2029 | 28 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | _NOBODY_ | 23 March 2029 | 28 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | kimjongun | 01 January 2030 | 27 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Princeps | 05 March 2030 | 14 January 2025 | TBC |
| J-35 | Pak AI | 31 March 2030 | 16 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | SiliconBit (silicon0000) | 31 December 2030 | 08 July 2024 | TBC |
| J-35 | TF8 | 14 August 2031 | 15 May 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | Ibbi32 | 30 September 2031 | 27 April 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | maxpane | 31 January 2035 | 14 January 2026 | TBC |
| J-35 | m52k85 | 31 December 2035 | 09 May 2026 | TBC |
If your not willing to sell it to your closest military customer or to delay the sale, then there is not much point trying to market the plane for export. Although its not clear to me how much China cares about making money from military sales.Because they have/are making diplomatic overtures to China for that. Including pressure from UAE to stop the sale to Pakistan or at least delay it until India is no longer royally screwed from having ANY answer to it.
They are focused on their interests and business profits first and foremost - all countries are and nothing to be offended about.If your not willing to sell it to your closest military customer or to delay the sale, then there is not much point trying to market the plane for export. Although its not clear to me how much China cares about making money from military sales.
They are focused on their interests and business profits first and foremost - all countries are and nothing to be offended about.
UAE has signed in for the J-35 - and in larger quantities with cash in hand instead of Pakistani soft loans and other approaches.
They are openly(some say voluntarily) not interested in having Pakistan get any further military equipment from any source. my hypothesis (happy to be corrected) is thatey are now an unfriendly country similar to how Egypt occasionally has been in preference for India but perhaps more so now along the lines of fully supporting India barring providing their own military.
Unfortunately, since the entire ruling class incl those in and out of uniform have massive financial interests mostly at personal (but some even institutional) level they are willing to eventually shrug and take the hit
The sale to the UAE wont be straight forward, they have military alliance with Israel (do the Chinese want the Israel's snooping) add uncle Sam wont be happy either. Buying drones, some air defence system sure, but a 5th Gen fighter is a very big leap. Also the UAE as far as I can tell dont have a complete integrated system to maximise the J35, maybe if the purchase does happen that will change.They are focused on their interests and business profits first and foremost - all countries are and nothing to be offended about.
UAE has signed in for the J-35 - and in larger quantities with cash in hand instead of Pakistani soft loans and other approaches.
They are openly(some say voluntarily) not interested in having Pakistan get any further military equipment from any source. my hypothesis (happy to be corrected) is thatey are now an unfriendly country similar to how Egypt occasionally has been in preference for India but perhaps more so now along the lines of fully supporting India barring providing their own military.
Unfortunately, since the entire ruling class incl those in and out of uniform have massive financial interests mostly at personal (but some even institutional) level they are willing to eventually shrug and take the hit
I am not doing them any disservice nor to Pakistan in stating interests and calculations tied to those interests.Yes. All countries have their national interests, but I do think you are doing the Chinese a big disservice to think they are so easily swayed by the likes of the UAE with regards to Pakistan. The nature of the relationship is deeper between the two to be influenced by the UAE..
I do agree with the assessment of UAE, ergo scumbags..
They always have been like that and we always choose to ignore it.I do agree with the assessment of UAE, ergo scumbags..
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