Saudis must recognise Israel for nuclear deal, says Trump

[Feroze]

What Trump says and what he does are two completely different things. I am surprised—or perhaps not, given the nature of this forum—that seemingly adult people have not realized this yet.

For starters, Saudi Arabia has likely had access to nuclear weapons for a long time. This has been asserted by various high-ranking sources, including former CIA officials, MI6 sources, and even senior IRGC officials, as recently as a few months ago.

This thread covers the topic extensively:

https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/royal-saudi-arabian-strategic-missile-force.3764/page-13

The official agreement that was signed—which is the only thing that ultimately matters—does not mention either Israel or the Abraham Accords.

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Even though the whole world knows that Saudi Arabia is Trump's primary diplomatic target and that Israel is deeply invested in obtaining Saudi recognition, the agreement itself contains no such provision.

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This agreement ensures that Saudi Arabia will be able to master the entire nuclear fuel cycle and develop the capability to build nuclear weapons domestically.

It will also enable the expansion of domestic nuclear energy, alongside renewable sources—primarily solar and wind—which would allow oil and natural gas to be used predominantly for export rather than domestic energy production, as is the case today.

Agreed, Donald Trump can bark like a dog.

But still I think Saudi Arabia should get nuclear technology from China or Russia.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

All I can do is throw a "lol" at the Saudi's.. .Looks like Trumpie added on new conditions after all was said and done!

Donald Trump's social media "conditions" tend to carry little weight. More often than not, they don't make it into the final signed agreement.

 

[_Arabia_]

Agreed, Donald Trump can bark like a dog.

But still I think Saudi Arabia should get nuclear technology from China or Russia.

Saudi Arabian and Chinese firms, along with scientists, have already been jointly extracting uranium within KSA for more than 10 years.

According to many estimates, KSA holds around 5–10% of the world's uranium reserves.

Once this deal is implemented, KSA will have some of the most extensive nuclear energy infrastructure in the world.

China has been discussed and there is likely cooperation on this field "behind closed doors" so to say much like with the Saudi Arabian missile program and other areas.

Russia should not even be considered.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Agreed, Donald Trump can bark like a dog.

But still I think Saudi Arabia should get nuclear technology from China or Russia.

Saudi Arabia should obtain nuclear technology from wherever it can, and as soon as it can. They don't need to sit around waiting for an IRGC-controlled Iran to become an even bigger regional threat than it already is.

There should be at least one Arab country capable of leading the Arab world's 23 nations. It's crazy that such a large region still lacks a clear leader.

 

[_Arabia_]

Donald Trump's social media "conditions" tend to carry little weight. More often than not, they don't make it into the final signed agreement.

There is no mention of Israel or Ibrahim (AS) accords in the deal signed, as I covered in my first post in this thread. Moreover this is the usual Trump obsession about getting KSA (the golden calf) to sign the Ibrahim (AS) accords and recognize Israel. Same exact obsession from the Israeli side.

Trump has been around since late 2016/early 2017 (10 years by now) and we are yet to see that occur.

It is never going to occur with Netanyahu and the current Israeli regime, that is for sure.

 

[Feroze]

Saudi Arabia should obtain nuclear technology from wherever it can, and as soon as it can. They don't need to sit around waiting for an IRGC-controlled Iran to become an even bigger regional threat than it already is.

There should be at least one Arab country capable of leading the Arab world's 23 nations. It's crazy that such a large region still lacks a clear leader.

Correct, Saudi Arabia should be the leader of the Arab World.

Egypt is competing with Saudi Arabia, but I want Saudi Arabia to do it.

 

[030292]

Once this deal is implemented, KSA will have some of the most extensive nuclear energy infrastructure in the world.

Stop deluding yourself dude, this deal is nothing more than another trump's grift to dupe the saudis into signing the abraham accords and kneel before jew supremacy while paying extortionate money to trumps family and friends while saudi nationals will not even be allowed to enter these facilities, no transfer of tech or anything of that ilk.

 

[_Arabia_]

Correct, Saudi Arabia should be the leader of the Arab World.

Egypt is competing with Saudi Arabia, but I want Saudi Arabia to do it.

There is no official "leader" of the "Arab world" (a landmass the size of Russia spanning 15.000 km, 2 continents and 20 + countries) just like there is no leader of the "Muslim world".

KSA is the largest Arab economy, fastest growing G-20 economy (only 1.5 billion big India ahead), largest landmass in the Arab world (only Algeria marginally larger), by far the largest country in West Asia, 3rd richest country on the planet in terms of natural and mineral wealth, home of Makkah and Madinah, one of the most developed and booming (on every front) countries out there and nowadays one of the most visited.

Rest I don't care about nor does any sane Saudi Arabian.

Stop deluding yourself dude, this deal is nothing more than another trump's grift to dupe the saudis into signing the abraham accords and kneel before jew supremacy while paying extortionate money to trumps family and friends while saudi nationals will not even be allowed to enter these facilities, no transfer of tech or anything of that ilk.

I don't engage with obsessed, ignorant etc. Arabized trolls. Same was said about 100's of other examples, most recently the F-35. Your likes still don't understand, after all this time, that KSA is not your average country, let alone average Muslim country. We play with different rules.

The only supremacy is the Arabian supremacy over what is modern-day Israel ( that we ruled for millennia and influenced each centimer of its soil in every way).

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Saudi Arabian and Chinese firms, along with scientists, have already been jointly extracting uranium within KSA for more than 10 years.

According to many estimates, KSA holds around 5–10% of the world's uranium reserves.

Once this deal is implemented, KSA will have some of the most extensive nuclear energy infrastructure in the world.

China has been discussed and there is likely cooperation on this field "behind closed doors" so to say much like with the Saudi Arabian missile program and other areas.

Russia should not even be considered.

I first heard about Saudi Arabia acquiring nuclear technology nearly two decades ago, yet nothing ever materialised.

01/11/2009: Bush in Saudi Arabia for Nuclear Deal: VoA

Meanwhile, Iran made significant progress during that same period, and it is only now facing sustained military pressure to progress any further. I don't know why Saudi Arabia always seems to be caught napping when it comes to strategic issues.

 

[_Arabia_]

I first heard about Saudi Arabia acquiring nuclear technology nearly two decades ago, yet nothing ever materialised.

01/11/2019: Bush in Saudi Arabia for Nuclear Deal: VoA

Meanwhile, Iran made significant progress during that same period, and it is only now facing sustained military pressure to progress any further. I don't know why Saudi Arabia always seems to be caught napping when it comes to strategic issues.

According to who? 100's of Saudi Arabian nuclear engineers have graduated from Saudi Arabian universities (highest ranked in the Muslim world) as well as foreign ones in USA, China (even Russia - go look it up) and elsewhere in the world in recent years.

KSA has had several nuclear reactors (for scientific purposes) for many years.

Now KSA is taking the step to develop one of the world's most extensive nuclear infrastructures.

I don't care about what Iran does and they did just that (hired foreigners to built and run (Russians who recently left) their sole nuclear facility in Bushehr many decades ago with nothing or very little to show for it here in 2026). Same story with UAE (Barakah - South Korea).

KSA's plans are on a scale 100 times larger.

 

[030292]

I don't engage with obsessed, ignorant etc. Arabized trolls.

You still cant build a nuclear enrichment facility on your own without getting permission from jew american daddy despite donating trillions of dollars to them.

Talk about getting cukced heh

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

There is no official "leader" of the "Arab world" (a landmass the size of Russia spanning 15.000 km, 2 continents and 20 + countries) just like there is no leader of the "Muslim world".

KSA is the largest Arab economy, fastest growing G-20 economy (only 1.5 billion big India ahead), largest landmass in the Arab world (only Algeria marginally larger), by far the largest country in West Asia, 3rd richest country on the planet in terms of natural and mineral wealth, home of Makkah and Madinah, one of the most developed and booming (on every front) countries out there and nowadays one of the most visited.

Rest I don't care about nor does any sane Saudi Arabian. ...

All that sounds good in theory, but countries much smaller than Saudi Arabia have launched ballistic missiles at the Kingdom despite the risks involved.

Here's a list of states that have launched ballistic missiles at the Kingdom since 1991:

• Iraq
• Yemen
• Iran

Each has faced, or is facing, severe military consequences. Nevertheless, no one should even contemplate attacking the Kingdom, especially given the presence of Islam's two holiest cities, Makkah and Madina.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

According to who? 100's of Saudi Arabian nuclear engineers have graduated from Saudi Arabian universities (highest ranked in the Muslim world) as well as foreign ones in USA, China (even Russia - go look it up) and elsewhere in the world in recent years.

KSA has had several nuclear reactors (for scientific purposes) for many years.

Now KSA is taking the step to develop one of the world's most extensive nuclear infrastructures.

I don't care about what Iran does and they did just that (hired foreigners to built and run (Russians who recently left) their sole nuclear facility in Bushehr many decades ago with nothing or very little to show for it here in 2026). Same story with UAE (Barakah - South Korea).

KSA's plans are on a scale 100 times larger.

I sense a bit of jealousy here.

Iran and the UAE have already built nuclear power plants, while Saudi Arabia still seems to be "experimenting" after all these decades.

You can boast about it once you've actually built one.

 

[_Arabia_]

So what they are offering the saudis is basically defanged nuclear tech and abilities that is controlled, managed and observed by them?

No, the exact opposite.

7 hour old article from The Guardian (UK newspaper and hardly pro-KSA or pro-Muslim or pro non-Western world for that matter altogether)

What is the US-Saudi Arabia nuclear deal and why is it causing concern?

The US will help Saudi Arabia establish a civilian nuclear program, but critics have said it could lead to domestic enrichment and set off a regional arms race

www.theguardian.com

Hence all the complaints from Western media and American politicians across the board.

But it is either that or KSA will pick China or Russia which the Americans fear so they had to bend to KSA demands.

All else is noise from the usual obsessed suspects.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Saddam and his regime is dead and buried and no need to tell what occurred to that regime in 1991 or 2003. KSA as usual was on the winning side.

Go look at history. Every enemy of KSA has mostly ended in the garbage bin of history.

Mullah's in Iran (ironically most of them are originally from KSA - proudly claiming that as well) are running a failed state as well while we speak with a economy 2 times smaller than 10 million big UAE. They are a failed entity by all accounts.

Firing some drones and missiles (that will not change anything and have not changed anything) is something that every terrorist group could do. Houthi cultists do similarly while their people (those that they occupy) starve to death.

Yemen another example of a completely failed entity (in particular the small Houthi cult controlled area of Yemen that is controlled by Houthis only temporarily) that KSA has been bombing 1 million times more than the other way around.

The Arabized Mullah's of Iran have barely touched KSA since February - despite KSA actively being the main launching pad for US strikes on them.

Not to mention that KSA has already targeted Iran itself on numerous occasions as have the smaller GCC states.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/saudi-arabia-launched-covert-attacks-iran-regional-war-widened-sources-2026-05-12/

Jealous of countries that do no sit at the same table as KSA on almost any front? Only UAE out of those 3 is not a failed state but they will eventually be annexed by KSA as ancient dynasties (pre-Islamic and Islamic) have been ruling what is modern-day UAE for 95% of recorded time and for millennia. Even the ruling dynasties in UAE are all originally from KSA (as are the people). Same story with every other GCC country.

KSA is larger than Iran, Iraq and UAE combined and while both UAE and Iran only have 1 working nuclear reactor, KSA will have 16 to 24 times more of them.

KSA did not need nuclear technology because we have the most oil and gas in the world and the cheapest to extract and of the highest quality.

But like with renewables (we have the world's largest growth on this front), KSA too will be a major nuclear energy player which nobody can prevent. Which this deal ensures as well.

Either that or deals will be signed (likely) with China on this strategic front as well.

Clearly the US is desperate not to have KSA turn towards China (mostly) on this front. Rubio said so much publicly. No need to mention more here.

Your posts are getting longer and longer—they're starting to read like lectures. I can't be bothered to read them, sorry.

You don't seem to realise this is a forum, not a classroom.

When you have something coherent and concise to say, get back to me.