India Races Towards A 200-Ship Fleet By 2035 To Counter China And Pakistan

[ety]

120 billion USD cash is pretty good deal for china from India’s side while just import few billion USD.
I doubt u have this much profit dealing with even americunts

Lol, China doesn't get the money for free, you people also get much needed products from China.

 

[TumbaX]

Lol, China doesn't get the money for free, you people also get much needed products from China.

well if we apply trump logic it seems chinese are not only fleecing money from India but whole planet.
The day whole planet puts more tarrifs …. chinese economy will
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[peagle]

India Races Towards A 200-Ship Fleet By 2035 To Counter China And Pakistan​

ByMI News Network
July 26, 2026

The Indian Navy is driving towards a fleet of more than 200 ships by 2035, and New Delhi has presented two commissionings within a fortnight as evidence that the target is now within reach. The force currently operates around 150 ships and submarines, of which roughly 135 are counted as frontline combatants such as frigates, destroyers and submarines, with close to 50 further hulls under construction in Indian yards.

INS Malvan, the second Mahe-class Anti-Submarine Warfare Shallow Water Craft (ASW-SWC), was commissioned at Karwar in Karnataka on 22 July. Built by Cochin Shipyard Limited with more than 80 per cent indigenous content, the 78-metre craft displaces about 1,100 tonnes and runs three diesel engines driving waterjets for a maximum speed of 25 knots. The Ministry of Defence has described the vessel as equipped for underwater surveillance, anti-submarine warfare, low-intensity maritime operations, and mine laying, with sensors from DRDO and Bharat Electronics Limited, and lightweight torpedoes supplied through DRDO and Bharat Dynamics Limited.

Malvan is the sixth of 16 ASW-SWCs to enter service and the second of the eight boats allotted to Cochin Shipyard under a Rs 13,000 crore programme split with Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, work on which began in 2019.

Eleven days earlier at Visakhapatnam, India’s Defence Minister commissioned INS Mahendragiri, the sixth Nilgiri-class stealth frigate built under Project 17A, designed in-house by the Navy’s Warship Design Bureau and constructed by Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited with more than 75 per cent indigenous content. A seventh and final ship of the class, Vindhyagiri, is reported to be months away from delivery, with a further batch of next-generation frigates under Project 17B already queued behind it.

The Chief of the Naval Staff, has put the current tempo at one indigenously built warship or submarine entering service roughly every 40 days, following 12 warships and one submarine commissioned during 2025. Behind the ships already afloat sits a pipeline the Defence Acquisition Council has cleared through Acceptance of Necessity for 74 further warships worth Rs 2.35 lakh crore, comprising 65 surface vessels and nine submarines, alongside the long-delayed Project 75(I) programme for six air-independent propulsion submarines.

The urgency behind those numbers is being read in the Indian Ocean rather than in the shipyards. The Pentagon’s annual assessment of Chinese military power puts the People’s Liberation Army Navy battle force at more than 370 ships and submarines, the largest fleet in the world by hull count, and Beijing has steadily widened its footprint across the Indian Ocean Region through port access, survey vessels and submarine deployments. Pakistan commissioned the first of eight Chinese-built Hangor-class attack submarines, PNS/M Hangor, at Sanya in China on 30 April, with four of the class being assembled at Wuchang Shipbuilding and four more at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works under a technology transfer arrangement.

Shallow-water hunters such as Malvan are the Indian Navy’s answer to the coastal end of that problem, screening approaches to ports, anchorages and offshore infrastructure where deep-water frigates lose their advantage and conventional submarines can sit quietly on the bottom.

India’s own conventional submarine arm remains the weakest link in the 2035 arithmetic, with only six Scorpène vessels delivered against an earlier plan for 24 new conventional submarines by 2030. INS Tamal, handed over from Russia in July 2025, was the last foreign-origin warship the Navy intends to take, and every hull counted towards the 200-ship goal is now expected to be built in an Indian yard.

Good, more targets to hit.

 

[peacemaker99]

China should arm Pakistan with inexpensive nuclear subs that could be afforded to equip in large number.

And the advanced destroyers should also be indispensable.

Since in the next decade, there is still more room for Sino-Pak economic integration and improvement.

There is nothihg called inexpensive huclwar sub. Total budget for pak navy is 1 billion a year and cost per unit of nuclear sub is 2 billion a piece

 

[ety]

well if we apply trump logic it seems chinese are not only fleecing money from India but whole planet.
The day whole planet puts more tarrifs …. chinese economy will
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Lol, Trump thinks every country in the world owes US. US is supposed to get products from China and other countries for free. And it seems you Indian agrees with the lunatic and think in the same way, lol. Any people try to follow the lunatic Trump's robber logic are scammers too. I am really surprised you people indeed agree with that bully, his US now is fleecing the whole world, not China. No Chinese are asking Indians to buy Chinese products, so are also apply to other countries. People have to pay for Chinese products, you people are not getting free, simple as that. And what the fk you think China is fleecing money from India ? You expect not to pay market prices for Chinese products, lol ? Chinese are not that dumb. If other countries don't buy products from China, but I don't believe people in the world will do that because they are not that dumb, then their livelihoods and economies will be destroyed first, not China's, it can always switch to domestic consumption that China is already doing now.

 

[TumbaX]

Lol, Trump thinks every country in the world owes US. US is supposed to get products from China and other countries for free. And it seems you Indian agrees with the lunatic and think in the same way, lol. Any people try to follow the lunatic Trump's robber logic are scammers too. I am really surprised you people indeed agree with that bully, his US now is fleecing the whole world, not China. No Chinese are asking Indians to buy Chinese products, so are also apply to other countries. People have to pay for Chinese products, you people are not getting free, simple as that. And what the fk you think China is fleecing money from India ? You expect not to pay market prices for Chinese products, lol ? Chinese are not that dumb. If other countries don't buy products from China, but I don't believe people in the world will do that because they are not that dumb, then their livelihoods and economies will be destroyed first, not China's, it can always switch to domestic consumption that China is already doing now.

Thats the thing you ppl has no domestic consumption enough to absorb 1/3 of what u ppl produce ….
Once world applies more tarrifs on u ppl u ppl go down

 

[Trailer23]

Now that ENDia has given away its plans of how many Ships it intends to have by 2035...

...have they asked themselves, how many China will have by 2035 (including Aircraft Carriers)?

Just the number of Jets China is able to produce annually - compared to India (sorry didn't want to drag TEJAs into the conversation), it just gives you an idea that there is no match.

#GoodLuck

 

[wangdefa]

Thats the thing you ppl has no domestic consumption enough to absorb 1/3 of what u ppl produce ….
Once world applies more tarrifs on u ppl u ppl go down

You’ve missed the point—it’s you who need our products, not us who need you to consume. India can choose not to purchase Chinese goods. But please don’t forget that, through deep supply chain integration, no product in the world can be separated from the Chinese supply chain.
You need to do a good job of investigating your own industry before you speak. You can't even run the machines without the Chinese supply chain.

 

[TumbaX]

You’ve missed the point—it’s you who need our products, not us who need you to consume. India can choose not to purchase Chinese goods. But please don’t forget that, through deep supply chain integration, no product in the world can be separated from the Chinese supply chain.
You need to do a good job of investigating your own industry before you speak. You can't even run the machines without the Chinese supply chain.

Always remember consumer is king

 

[wangdefa]

Always remember consumer is king

Have you transitioned from being part of the Indian supply chain to becoming a consumer? No problem, we are pragmatic manufacturing creators. You need to make a purchase, and I have only one requirement for orders from India: full payment upfront.

 

[Harbyharb]

Procuring, maintaining, and expanding what is effectively a trophy fleet-in-being is, historically proven, a relatively innocuous investment for all parties involved. Great for showing the flag, goodwill visits, anything short of actually countering anybody. That would be called building an actual A2AD capability.

I approve of this course of action. Factually speaking, Indian surface combatants are the spiritual successors of Soviet naval doctrines and fleet specialisation, as in BRKs and BNKs as opposed to general-purpose guided missile destroyers, and the Indian Navy, the ever-generous benefactor, is paying out of its own pocket for this magnificent "what-if" scenario experiment.

Still, given that Indian naval infrastructure is within littoral reach of Pakistani shores, perhaps the development for and against unmanned vessels/tactics is in order.

 

[Pakistan First]

It will be very tough for Pakistan to match India and it will require out of box strategy. Pakistan is little behind in building replacements for F-22P.

Pakistan needs to increase the production of Babur‑class (PN MILGEM) and design New indigenous Corvette based on MILGEM‑G / TF‑100 concepts.

Total: 14–16 corvettes, plus 12–16 FACs and 6–8 OPVs.

You can not compete with a 200 ship Navy that is mix of aircraft carrier, destroyers, converts, ASW ships etc... what you need is cost effective and asymmetrical ways along with some heavy punch.

So a major focus on

1. Suicide drones USVs, alot of them
2. Speed boats with cruise missiles, alot of them . Like 100
3. 8-10 ships with 64 VLS ,in 4500-5000 tonnage.
4. Submarine force needs to be expanded to 20. A mix of small and medium tonnage.
5. Coastal Anti-ship batteries with 1000 km hypersonic (and super and subsonic) anti-ship missiles


Jinnah and babur will carry what ? 16 SAMs ? That is for defence only. What about attack ? They only have 6-8 cruise missiles. A single India frigate will have 40+ SAMs to counter those 6-8 cruise missiles.


But even if we do all of this, still we can not prevent a blockade from Indian navy that is set 1000 km away from our coast. These things are only going to make it somewhat expensive for India and that's it. A 1000 km coastline country can not compete with a 11000 km coastline country that have 10 times of the economy.

Luckily we are already focusing on right track. 2030s will be the time when Pakistan will have a significant advantage in one core area of naval warfare that is submarine domain. Will have 11 AIP submarines. These vastly outperform the non AIP ones. The lethality of submarine is in its covert / undetectability. Its very unlikely to find a submarine at depth of several hundred meters. The AIP can keep submarine submerged for upto weeks. While a non AIP has to surface and has to snorkel. That is where submarine is detectable by airplanes and other sensors.

Also remember most of indian submarines are over 30 years old. So they have to actually phase out many while we are adding AIP subs. Indian surface fleet no matter how big will face real challenge to operate against lethal submarine fleet of Pakistan. Plus note, we are also looking into 500 to 1000 tonnage subs too.

So we are at right track given our financial constraints.

 

[Corax]

This is deja vu, it's like all the fanciful boasts of the IAF "raptor of the east, netcentric capability, bvr, look first shoot first, outclass the PAF/PLAF...bla blah blah" ....how did that end up? Grounded for 2 days, multiple fighters destroyed, and ass handed to it on a plate. What happend to the IN? I thought it captured Lahore port? All it could do is bark like that IAF and turn back. Let's see if the IN reaches 200 hulls, we've seen the bullshit claims for the tejus and the IAF. Indians are all bullshit.

 

[Pakistan First]

When the world's first car appeared, carriage drivers protested. Times always move forward.

Its true. However, at one end when carriage drivers were getting job less the car driver jobs were opening up. It was an equilibrium.

Here AI is literally wiping out every sector, from writers, call centers, clerks, many roles in factories, software development, design work, and what not but there are not equal number of jobs opening as an alternate. The difference is staggering.

 

[wangdefa]

Its true. However, at one end when carriage drivers were getting job less the car driver jobs were opening up. It was an equilibrium.

Here AI is literally wiping out every sector, from writers, call centers, clerks, many roles in factories, software development, design work, and what not but there are not equal number of jobs opening as an alternate. The difference is staggering.

If you look carefully, you will find that a large number of artificial intelligence animations have been born recently. A large number of screenwriters and authors have entered the AI industry to make their words visual. Generate new careers (AI refining jobs). It's just a part of finding out in life.

Various industries in China also use AI to handle simple and repetitive tasks, which does not mean it can completely replace humans; it will only drive the development of technology.

Our country has long outsourced low-value processing factories to Southeast Asia and upgraded to AI-assisted high-value automated factories. Our employees are required to operate CNC machine tools, not sewing machines.
If a profession can be replaced by AI, it indicates that the profession does not hold much value.

We have always believed that humans are the creators of tools, and AI is merely our execution tool.