France confirms shooting down of Indian Rafale and failure of SPECTRA: What future for French air superiority?

BonPlan said:
I was working in the Seclin Dassault factory. Even far away than Beaune (550km).

At the time I was there, discussions were around Mirage 2000 against F16, not about a dusty jets collection.

It's not because you have visited this dusty collection and tasted a special wine that every french know that. There are more than 1000 cheese and more than 3000 differents wine in France. Sorry, I don't know all, and unfortunately haven't taste all.

Have a nice evening my dusty Stud.
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And there endeth the lesson. How to make Rakesh run away faster then an IAF Rafale...
 
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French Air Force Chief Confirms India’s First Rafale Combat Loss, Exposing IAF Denials - Defence Security Asia

French Air Force Chief confirms India lost its first Rafale fighter in May 2025 clash with Pakistan, exposing IAF’s long-denied setback. Full analysis inside.
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WANT MORE THESE SOURCES HAVE BETTER SOURCES THAN YOUR DELUSIONAL LOL
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OKAY ! I was wrong.
 
Beijingwalker said:

China Reveals How Pakistani J-10CEs Shot Down Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30MKI Without Using AEW&C System​

July 25, 2026

Until now, the prevailing theory was that the reason for the success of the Pakistan Air Force was a combination of three Chinese components: the ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft, the J-10CE fighter and the PL-15 long-range air-to-air missile, but new details from China contradict this​

Despite the fact that the largest battle in modern history between Indian and Pakistani air force fighters took place more than a year ago, on the night of May 7, 2025, its details are being revealed extremely slowly.

In particular, official confirmation that the Chinese J-10 fighter won its first combat victories appeared only after six months, and now, more than fourteen months later, it has been revealed how it was used. This was done by the Chinese central television channel CCTV, which interviewed academician Ben De, the developer of radar targeting systems and stations, including the KLJ-7A for the J-10, the content of which is cited by Sohu.

In particular, this interview notes that in total, Pakistani J-10CEs shot down six Indian Air Force aircraft, including three Rafales. There were no losses among the J-10CEs.

China Reveals How Pakistani J-10CEs Shot Down Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30MKI Without Using AEW&C System, J-10CE multirole combat aircraft of Pakistan Air Force
J-10CE multirole combat aircraft of Pakistan Air Force

On the part of Defense Express, we note that Pakistan initially officially announced the shooting down of two Rafales and one MiG-29 and Su-30MKI, as well as one UAV. But later the "score" in this night battle began to increase in Islamabad and now they declare two more Rafale and one Mirage 2000. At the same time, India does not confirm these losses, but it is known for certain and independently confirmed that one Rafale with the number BS-001 was lost.

Since then, it is believed that the key to the achievements gained by the Pakistani Air Force is the better organization of air combat and the advantage in long-range radar detection aircraft – 8 Swedish Saab 2000 Erieye and 4 more Chinese ZDK-03 (Y-8) in Pakistan, against 3 Indian EMB-145AEW Netra and three russian-Israeli A-50EI in India.

At the same time, it was the combination of three Chinese components: the ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft, the J-10CE fighter jet and the PL-15 long-range air-to-air missile, that was considered the main "formula for success" of the Pakistan Air Force. In particular, it is believed that the J-10CE could not turn on the on-board radar and launch the PL-15 missile after targeting from the ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft, which also controlled the air-to-air missiles from a safe distance.

At the same time, Chinese academic Ben De stated that the J-10CE fighters used their own KLJ-7A airborne radars when hunting Indian aircraft.

Pakistani fighter pilots independently searched, detected, and then captured and attacked targets at a range of 200 km. All this happened without activating the radar radiation and missile threat systems on the Indian Air Force aircraft.

This was achieved due to the fact that the KLJ-7A is based on GaN technology, which allows reducing the output power without losing the detection range, as well as special algorithms for the radar. In particular, the KLJ-7A uses a constant change in frequencies in a wide range, pulse compression, as well as masking of signal shapes as "noise".

China Reveals How Pakistani J-10CEs Shot Down Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30MKI Without Using AEW&C System, J-10CE multirole combat aircraft of Pakistan Air Force
J-10CE multirole combat aircraft of Pakistan Air Force

Due to this, as stated in China, not only the russian warning systems on the MiG-29 and Su-30MKI aircraft became helpless, but also the well-known Spectra system by Thales, which is installed on the Rafale. To this we can only add that any statements from China must be passed through a certain filter and not be considered as the ultimate truth.

As Defense Express reported, U.S. warned russia could field 1,000 hypersonic missiles by 2035, China up to 4,000

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China Reveals How Pakistani J-10CEs Shot Down Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30MKI Without Using AEW&C System | Defense Express

Until now, the prevailing theory was that the reason for the success of the Pakistan Air Force was a combination of three Chinese components: the ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft, the J-10CE fighter and the PL-15 long-range air-to-air missile, but new details from China contradict this
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Full BS the AFM account of PAF clearly says it was networked kill PAF fighter pilots we're getting data from Saab 2000 to launch the PL15sScreenshot_20260729-111915.jpgScreenshot_20260729-112557.jpgScreenshot_20260729-112606.jpg
Honestly the Chinese also need to get down from their high horse.
 
Falcon26 said:
No issues with you, monsieur Rakesh. I find the fact you cosplay as a Frenchman on a Pakistani forum quite hilarious lol.

Continue
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It will continue until the end of my life as I'm french.
And there is nothing you and some of your frinds can do against that.
Sorry.
 
BonPlan said:
It will continue until the end of my life as I'm french.
And there is nothing you and some of your frinds can do against that.
Sorry.
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Why not post that picture of you again when you were trying to convince us of your skin colour and it was basically a brown guy.....
 
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