Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

Brent crude up more than 7% today and back above $90

Maybe a few more missiles pre-emptively lobbed at US bases is needed.

trump can keep threatening, at this point his rhetoric is meaningless as no one believes him to his word.

 

[Immortals]

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[lightning f57]

I don't think the tolls can be described as extortion but more like ethical piracy

Iran needs money more than Oman and PGCC does

We need the money for hospitals and cancer research, Oman doesn't need it and if they get money, they would construct 7 stars resorts for foreigners and instagram influencers. Iran needs that money more than anyone in the region

It's ethical extortion and piracy, just like some pirates did in the 1700s

I saw the tolls differently.

Iran sustained what $200bn worth of damage by the US and its allies, a number of GCC countries supported that aggression along with European states. So If I look at this logically, I want reparations for those damages and deaths, for now I would enforce a toll to cover those costs. But I would say once the costs are covered toll ends - that could be a decade or more if the conflict continues.

 

[Immortals]

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[TumbaX]

I don't think the tolls can be described as extortion but more like ethical piracy

Iran needs money more than Oman and PGCC does

We need the money for hospitals and cancer research, Oman doesn't need it and if they get money, they would construct 7 stars resorts for foreigners and instagram influencers. Iran needs that money more than anyone in the region

It's ethical extortion and piracy, just like some pirates did in the 1700s

I think its fair only, Iran has proven its weapons specially drones can regulate traffic in SOH and world only follows mighty….
Iran has proven its weapons and it should be might is right, I fully support Iran tolls on SOH.

Hopefully one day Indian Govt has military might enough to charge tolls on Indian ocean

 

[lightning f57]

Hopefully one day Indian Govt has military might enough to charge tolls on Indian ocean

Thats just stupid and impossible for Indian Navy to enforce. There is a difference between a narrow waterway and an ocean.

 

[TumbaX]

Thats just stupid and impossible for Indian Navy to enforce. There is a difference between a narrow waterway and an ocean.

Why navy is required to enforce?

Why cant hypersonic glide vehicles enforce the tolls ….

India is a very poor nation compared to arabs or iranians if they can get tolls why cant poor nations

 

[Persian Gulf]

Would you also extend this to your desperate and coping compatriots disparaging their host here?

Yes, this is a Pakistani forum and we should not insult our hosts. Posts insulting Pakistan will not be tolerated. Please continue to report them if they go beyond the threshold of criticism and into insults.

And given this is the Iranian section, others coming to this section to insult Iran will also not lead to a positive response.

 

[lightning f57]

Why navy is required to enforce?

Why cant hypersonic glide vehicles enforce the tolls ….

India is a very poor nation compared to arabs or iranians if they can get tolls why cant poor nations

Dude stop trolling

 

[Meengla]

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CENTCOM confirming the obvious about that Blair Witch style video from American troops

It is a major story on Reuters as well right now.
To be noted: War damages can't be hidden enough due to the widespread availability of cell phones. No country, with the exception of North Korea and maybe Turkeminstan can shut up people from reporting damages in their vicinity. In this case, even the soldiers couldn't be controlled to share the images/videos. In contrast, Israel is a much more open and connected nation and damages done to Israel could only be hidden by censorship to a minor degree. Israel was not sadly damaged enough in this war which began on Feb. 28.

 

[That_Guy]

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The main places that the MQ9 and MQ1 both got their reputation from were against Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Iraq post-invasion, and Pakistan's tribal belt in a limited way.

None of these nations had any real air defense, except Pakistan. Pakistan literally cooperated during the strikes, which is the only reason it wasn't shot down.

Its reputation, much like every other similar drone, is overrated. They faced insurgents who couldn't fight back.

 

[Master Chief]

Irán doesn't have a fancy Air force like Pakistán. Irán doesn't have the fancy nuclear bombs that Pakistán show off in their parades...
THEY WERE ATTACKED FIRST. From Kuwait, Qatar, Arabia Saudí and Emirates.

Pakistan choosed the Camel breeders instead of joining the Resistance.
Irán cannot hit alone Israel and let arabics hitting from their bases.
First Arabs and then israelis.
But Pakistán choosed their band.

Don't blame iranians while you are cleaning Chinese aircrafts in arab countries. Use your fighters to hit Israel instead.

Nice rallying speech. However, is Iran actually ready for this multifaceted conflagration? Did Iran need more time to prepare for the final showdown?

If we take a step back, Tehran's influence throughout the Middle East has been severely hit over the last 2 decades. You may choose to observe the events of the last 6 months only but I wouldn't be surprised if the outcome of this war rests on the events of the last 2 decades.

Iran is certainly within its rights to attack all who threaten and/or have harmed her nation and/or her people. However, that doesn't mean immediate action against a full spectrum of enemies is necessarily wise.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

You have no idea about Pakistan's trade figures, remittance, and $$ situation, or the threat Pakistan faces from India, which is Pakistan's primary responsibility.

We’ve spent almost 8 decades hiding behind the ‘existential threat from India’ and allowing Establishment and its civilian lackeys to destroy almost every institution in the country - social and economic development in Pakistan is abysmal.

At some point people have to realize that merely ‘existing’ vs India and bragging about being a nuclear/military power is not enough when Pakistan’s social and economic development continue to lag far behind many other nations.

 

[Falcon29]

I thought Egypt had a multi-tiered defense systems lol

 

[Meengla]

We’ve spent almost 8 decades hiding behind the ‘existential threat from India’ and allowing Establishment and its civilian lackeys to destroy almost every institution in the country - social and economic development in Pakistan is abysmal.

At some point people have to realize that merely ‘existing’ vs India and bragging about being a nuclear/military power is not enough when Pakistan’s social and economic development continue to lag far behind many other nations.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get me started on this. I am well aware of the 'civilian lackeys' including the great 'Khan'.
Pakistani 'Establishment' is 'Pakistan' first, last and only line of defense which no idiot into his third marriage with a witch wife can negate.
Mods are welcome to delete our posts but if someone again brings up 'the Establishment', the great 'Khan', the 'vassal' arguments then expect a retort.