Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Agnostic Muslim said:
We’ve spent almost 8 decades hiding behind the ‘existential threat from India’ and allowing Establishment and its civilian lackeys to destroy almost every institution in the country - social and economic development in Pakistan is abysmal.

At some point people have to realize that merely ‘existing’ vs India and bragging about being a nuclear/military power is not enough when Pakistan’s social and economic development continue to lag far behind many other nations.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get me started on this. I am well aware of the 'civilian lackeys' including the great 'Khan'.
Pakistani 'Establishment' is 'Pakistan' first, last and only line of defense which no idiot into his third marriage with a witch wife can negate.
Mods are welcome to delete our posts but if someone again brings up 'the Establishment', the great 'Khan', the 'vassal' arguments then expect a retort.
 
Iran is hurting economically so it appears will strike at energy facilities across region even if US isn't doing daily attacks

Trump repeating himself with nothing new. Trump and Israel seem to want numerous parties to collide into each other, particularly Muslim nations and that's why they won't sign nuclear deal on table.

They're dragging it on by intent.
 
krash said:
Yup, I also heard that Pakistan had stationed its HQ-9s and 3 squadrons of J-10s in the middle of nowhere in Balochistan. Very strong defense there. No wonder then that the Iranian military is the envy of the world. Silly Pakistanis believe that the complete absence of an Iranian response to their attack somehow means that Iran backed off. As an apology we then escorted their leaders back to Iran as well.

Are Iranian pomegranates this good? I want in, unless it's some masochistic self-deprecating kink.



Easy pick against the band with the cow excrement consumers.



It's ok, you'll be fine. Just remember that envy is ok, jealousy is ugly.



My friend, you wouldn't know wisdom if someone tied it to your forehead and left it dangling to smack you in the face every time you moved. Just pat yourself on the back again and pretend you have more than this to offer.



Would you also extend this to your desperate and coping compatriots disparaging their host here?
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really!

J 10 squadrons and HQ 19, were not stationed so, Pak. reply was only stronger, as strongest assets were not deployed!


Okay, as I understand, these PAkistani assets are now more powerful than, world's greatest air force and zios air force

sometimes, people here amaze use!


what you ignored, Pak. reply was weaker, bec, it had to deploy assets against IR (1. which was already under sanctions 2. has no air force!)

as described, in the previous post, you are boiling water at lower temperature, when it should used to make ice !

in plain english, you are recovering your lost value from actions which, although, will redeem (your lost value), but will never compensate what you have lost (Deterrence!)


in more clear terms, even if you bomb a country which is under severe sanctions and has no air force and it chose to fire first!


you have already lost it (you are only a paper tiger, taking too much liberty here!)
 
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Both Iran and USA can easily block the strait.

And no one can't break the blockade.

So it will keep closed for months, and the main damaged will be GCC.
 
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Names and pictures of at least 4 of the IRGC advisors killed in Iraq yesterday
 
Agnostic Muslim said:
We’ve spent almost 8 decades hiding behind the ‘existential threat from India’ and allowing Establishment and its civilian lackeys to destroy almost every institution in the country - social and economic development in Pakistan is abysmal.

At some point people have to realize that merely ‘existing’ vs India and bragging about being a nuclear/military power is not enough when Pakistan’s social and economic development continue to lag far behind many other nations.
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Agreed Pakistan should have been an East Asian nation by nation like China or Japan or Korea.

Economically or how developed it should be.

Having nuclear weapons should not be source of boasting. Okay having a powerful military is cool, but we need to manufacture stuff like China, Japan, and Korea does.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
Iran was not onboard with the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At best, Iran was neutral.
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Likely onboard with regime change in Iraq and played some functional roles as the war played out but they didn't it was their original idea, I agree. Was US and Kuwait, and other Arab parties.
 
So what we're seeing now is Palestinians in Gaza got fed up with entire situation and blew it up on 10/7

It then spilled over into Iran. Iran may be slowly getting idea of blowing it up to force Arabs to change too.

Tough situation for everyone involved. I can only envy Pakistani/Qatari/Omani mediators. Still possible to get out of it by pressuring US to accept nuclear deal and pushing for Gaza peace force, Israeli withdrawal and reconstruction of Gaza and Iran.
 
lightning f57 said:
Maybe a few more missiles pre-emptively lobbed at US bases is needed.

trump can keep threatening, at this point his rhetoric is meaningless as no one believes him to his word.
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They are manipulating oil price , if they are not able to control it at some moment then this will backfire with massive price surge
 
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Iran and Iraq’s intelligence services so bad that they did not properly evacuate force prior to airstrikes like they did back when they were in Syria.

They likely didn’t expect this level of attack from Saudi and U.S. forces.

Now they are trying to hide behind the excuse of Shiite pilgrimage as to why they are holding off on strikes.
 
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