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It does not excuse such behavior. It is completely unacceptable and one of the reasons why some Spaniards (rightly) complain about Moroccan/Maghrebi behavior and why you see the rise of VOX and other such parties.

Similarly with a too big proportion of male (youth) engaged in criminal activities. This is also common among certain Berber communities (in particular) in Spain and France.

For example most of the Hashish trade to Europe is run by Moroccan Riffian Berbers (good people overall though).

Same with much of the drug trade arriving to Europe through Belgium and Netherlands from South America. A few Moroccan families and clans run this "enterprise".

Of course many other criminal networks are involved as well (Albanian Mafia, Turkish/Kurdish "mafia"/clans/families, locals etc).


But such behavior is unacceptable and I will never side with such bad apples regardless of any type of kinship.

Similarly we don't want criminal/unwanted elements in KSA/GCC whether fellow Arabs or non-Arabs or Muslims or non-Muslims.

I agree in all, but I have to say something good about that kind of Magreb immigration: Once married, when they create families, they are a lot more stable and civilized than other groups.

Even being a minority I see more structured families among them, than among rest of Spaniards and other migrants groups.
 
Yeah, it depends of what part of Spain we're talking about it.

I talked about South Spain.

You can see that difference in Spanish people origin in the language more clearly too.

In Spanish language we have pair of words with exactly same meaning, but different origin: Latin and Arabic.

And in some parts of Spain most people use the word of Arabic origin (South Spain), and in the rest the word of Latin Origin.

e.g of those pair of words:
Olive: Oliva (Latin), Aceituna (Arabic)
Scorpion: Escorpion (Latin), Alacran (Arabic).
Lizard: Lagarto (Latin), Fardacho (Arabic)

And so on.

Many people seem to have stereotyped the southern Spain as the representative of the whole Spain.

When I saw the current squad of the Spanish football team, they overall look very Iberian which strongly resemble the southern French people.
 
The Thai Royal family might have Chinese blood, but they are not very pro-China by heart and being deeply westernized.

However, recently they are seeking a closer relationship with China not by embracing their ancestry, but to make more pragmatic approach amid a rising China.

BTW, the Thai people themselves originated from the Tai people from the Southwest China.


BTW, the Lee/Li family from Singapore is being heavily disliked/despised by most Chinese from mainland or oversea, since they are self-hating their own Chinese ancestry and desperately wants to be associated with the western whites.

And China's pre-Confucianism philosophy was the Legalism, and the ancient China under Legalism was much more ruthless and brutal than the Confucianized China.


And China's true indigenous religion is Taoism where the symbol of Yin Yang derived from.


Many westerners have often mistaken the symbol of Yin Yang as Buddhism, but it belongs to Taoism in fact.

Overall, Taoism is spiritual and philosophical religion that heavily emphasizes on the cycle and balance of the nature.

I would say that the rise of the Confucianism has eventually weakened those powerful Chinese clans/big powerful families that being contemporary from the Greco-Roman era.

And the later Chinese emperors and high ranked officials have become much more grassrooted compared to its early counterpart.
Wonderful post my friend with information that most non-Chinese do not know much about. Learned a few new things.

I need to read up on Taoism, the Tai peoples and Chinese Legalism. Some interesting topics that will make me understand Chinese culture, people and China as a whole more.

I knew about the dislike of Lee Singaporean family policy that many Chinese dislike. It resembles the policy of the Taiwanese but Taiwan and Taiwanese is much closer to home and a part of China after all. Almost all Taiwanese are Han Chinese from mostly Southern China next door if I am not wrong.
 
Yeah, it depends of what part of Spain we're talking about it.

I talked about South Spain.

You can see that difference in Spanish people origin in the language more clearly too.

In Spanish language we have pair of words with exactly same meaning, but different origin: Latin and Arabic.

And in some parts of Spain most people use the word of Arabic origin (South Spain), and in the rest the word of Latin Origin.

e.g of those pair of words:
Olive: Oliva (Latin), Aceituna (Arabic)
Scorpion: Escorpion (Latin), Alacran (Arabic).
Lizard: Lagarto (Latin), Fardacho (Arabic)

And so on.
That is really interesting, now that you mention it. I was aware of all of those words but I did not know that their use (prevalence) was tied to the geographical region of Spain but it makes sense that the Arabic origin word gained a stronger foothold in Southern Spain where the Arab presence was the strongest and longest.

Speaking about Spain, I find it interesting that some of the most popular surnames in Spain, such as García is originally a Basque surname which is a completely unrelated language to Spanish and any other language in the world in fact (language isolate).

Many outsiders also forget about the Germanic (Visigothic) influence in Spain. It was in particular profound in the surnames that people adopted. Some of the most popular Spanish surnames are originally Visigothic.

For example Rodríguez, Fernández, and González are all Visigothic surnames meaning son of Rodri, Fernando, Gonzalo. Like the English Johnson (son of John), Peterson (son of Peter).

In Arabic son of is literally ibn x or y and for women bint.

Anyway the richness of Spain is the fusion of local indigenous Iberian cultures, Phoenician, Carthaginian (Semitic overall), Greek, Roman, Visigoth, Arab etc. fusion. Jewish too. Many layers in other words.

Later that fusion and culture, language, cuisine, people, etc. spread to much of the new world (Latin America) which is why the Arab connection with that part of the world is also so strong with later million big Arab migrations to Latin America in the more modern world.

To the point that mate the drink has spread to in places like Syria, Lebanon etc.

I agree in all, but I have to say something good about that kind of Magreb immigration: Once married, when they create families, they are a lot more stable and civilized than other groups.

Even being a minority I see more structured families among them, than among rest of Spaniards and other migrants groups.
Fertility rates in Europe are really declining and in many universities etc. in much of the larger Western European cities, Arabs and other non-natives almost outnumber the locals, in particular women. It seems that the European elites have done everything in order to make life as hard as possible for young people to marry, start families etc. due to their failed economic and social policies. Many people cannot afford it.

BTW I forgot the Canarians which are actually partially of Berber (Gaunches) ancestry who again are related peoples to Arabs and part of the Afro-Asiatic speaking peoples.


Many people from the Canary Islands migrated to Cuba (Fidel Castro was half Canarian for example) and other parts of Latin America. Their Spanish accent influenced Colombian, Cuban and Venezuelan Spanish as did Andalusian Spanish. Most Spanish settlers, if I am not wrong, in the Canary Islands, came from Andalusia and southern Spain.

Which is why local Canary people are more darker than regular Spanish people. You can see it in Pedri, Ayoze Pérez, Yéremy Pino etc.
 
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That is really interesting, now that you mention it. I was aware of all of those words but I did not know that their use (prevalence) was tied to the geographical region of Spain but it makes sense that the Arabic origin word gained a stronger foothold in Southern Spain where the Arab presence was the strongest and longest.

Speaking about Spain, I find it interesting that some of the most popular surnames in Spain, such as García is originally a Basque surname which is a completely unrelated language to Spanish and any other language in the world in fact (language isolate).

Many outsiders also forget about the Germanic (Visigothic) influence in Spain. It was in particular profound in the surnames that people adopted. Some of the most popular Spanish surnames are originally Visigothic.

For example Rodríguez, Fernández, and González are all Visigothic surnames meaning son of Rodri, Fernando, Gonzalo. Like the English Johnson (son of John), Peterson (son of Peter).

In Arabic son of is literally ibn x or y and for women bint.

Anyway the richness of Spain is the fusion of local indigenous Iberian cultures, Phoenician, Carthaginian (Semitic overall), Greek, Roman, Visigoth, Arab etc. fusion. Jewish too. Many layers in other words.

Later that fusion and culture, language, cuisine, people, etc. spread to much of the new world (Latin America) which is why the Arab connection with that part of the world is also so strong with later million big Arab migrations to Latin America in the more modern world.

To the point that mate the drink has spread to in places like Syria, Lebanon etc.


Fertility rates in Europe are really declining and in Universities etc. in most of the larger Western European cities, Arabs and other non-natives almost outnumber the locals, in particular women. It seems that the European elites have done everything in order to make life as hard as possible for young people to marry, get children etc. due to economic and social policies. Many people cannot afford it.
It's curious because Mate is not popular in Spain, even having a lot of Argentinian immigration.

Maybe it was more easily spread to Middle East due to the prohibition of alcoholic beverages.

Here you can buy mate in all supermarkets, but only Argentinian people buy it.

And yes, even with the fusion, the provinces keep own old identity in the language: Andalusian people have own accent when they talk Spanish, different to the rest, Galicia people another accent similar to Portuguese. The same can be seen in cuisine.
 
Wonderful post my friend with information that most non-Chinese do not know much about. Learned a few new things.

I need to read up on Taoism, the Tai peoples and Chinese Legalism. Some interesting topics that will make me understand Chinese culture, people and China as a whole more.

I knew about the dislike of Lee Singaporean family policy that many Chinese dislike. It resembles the policy of the Taiwanese but Taiwan and Taiwanese is much closer to home and a part of China after all. Almost all Taiwanese are Han Chinese from mostly Southern China next door if I am not wrong.

There are mainly two types of Taiwanese: blue and green

Blue Taiwanese: mainly descended from the KMT party who was the China's government from 1927-1949. Their ancestry is not exclusively from Southern China, but some also from the Northern China. Most of them fled to Taiwan in 1949 after losing its civil war against the CPC.

Green Taiwanese: Their ancestry exclusively came from Southern China especially in the Southeastern coastal region. They migrated to Taiwan since several centuries, and became more indigenized and even partially Japanized due the colonization from 1898-1945.

Well, the Blue Taiwanese formally acknowledge that they are Chinese, but being bitter and sore loser of losing the civil war to the CPC, and they are also pro-US, and it is the coward puppet type of Chinese government that desired by the US to rule over China as their puppet nation.

The Green Taiwanese are now deeply loyal to Japan after 5 decades of brainwashing by the Japanese Empire, and the independence of Taiwan is just a pretext to be re-merging with Japan.

Japan was also considered as an offshoot of the Sinic civilization.

However, they always harbor the ambition to replace the main authentic Chinese civilization by themselves over millennium.

The WWII was really the closest chance for Japan, but they still failed.

And nowadays, they are still stubborn to not give up.

Japan and the US are manipulating each other.

The US is expecting that Japan could become its cannon fodder to weaken China.

Whereas Japan hopes that the US and China could fight each that leads into its mutual destruction.
 
It's curious because Mate is not popular in Spain, even having a lot of Argentinian immigration.

Maybe it was more easily spread to Middle East due to the prohibition of alcoholic beverages.

Here you can buy mate in all supermarkets, but only Argentinian people buy it.

And yes, even with the fusion, the provinces keep own old identity in the language: Andalusian people have own accent when they talk Spanish, different to the rest, Galicia people another accent similar to Portuguese. The same can be seen in cuisine.
Mate is unknown in most of the Arab world outside of Syria and Lebanon. Maybe some areas of the West Bank as well. This is due to most of the Arab migrations to Argentina and Uruguay (where that drink is most popular) being originally from Syria and Lebanon. Many Palestinians (many Christian) migrated to Chile and Colombia where the drink is less popular or not known (Colombia) at all.

I can give you another example of such fusions. Some very popular Saudi Arabian and Yemeni dishes (now spread to most of the Arab world) such as murtabak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murtabak is a fusion of Arab and South East Asian (Indonesian) cuisine. Originally Arabic in origin (word too) but it spread to South East Asia with the Arabs and there it was influenced by local culinary influences and later that fusion was brought back by Yemenis (Hadhrami people mostly) and Hejazis and influenced/inspired the local versions.

Actually Arabs have alcoholic beverages, mostly in Sham (Levant) but it was/is mostly consumed by local Christian Arabs. Jewish Arab also used to drink.

It is part of the anise family so related to raki (Greek).


Actually alcohol is an Arabic word and the first traces of wine and beer occurred in the Arab world/Middle East. Pre-Islamic Arabs used to drink a lot of alcohol and maybe this is why Islam started prohibiting it because it was/actually is harmful for the body.

But long and complicated history:


Yes, also you have Catalan language which is more familiar to French and Italian than rest of Spanish local dialects and languages. Which is also spoken in Valencia, Belearic islands (called Mallorca and Valencia language but very similar).

Speaking about surnames, many popular Spanish surnames are of Arabic origin. For instance Almodóvar (famous Spanish film director), Alcaraz (like the famous Spanish tennis player) - it means fortress or castle, Medina, Aguilar, Almeida.

Actually some of the main Spanish towns are also of Arabic origin, including the capital Madrid.
 
Many outsiders also forget about the Germanic (Visigothic) influence in Spain. It was in particular profound in the surnames that people adopted. Some of the most popular Spanish surnames are originally Visigothic.

I see that Spain being politically and culturally independent to the Anglo world, and Germanic ancestry being a true minority in Spain.

Only France has been often regarded and embraced by the Anglo-Germanic world as their fellow cousin and accomplice.

That's why Spain has been politically more embracing of China rise than France.
 

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