Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[MS Sandhu]

US Says Not Involved in Redirecting Pakistan-Bound LNG Tanker

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-31/us-says-not-involved-in-redirecting-pakistan-bound-lng-tanker

If it's not US, then who the f#k is stopping our Tankers?

 

[hasn2009]

Is it the money always?

 

[OldTwilight]

Still a nuclear weapon with equally adverse ramifications, just less effective as a weapon.

These missiles don't exist because they don't make any sense. The nuclear fallout renders them unusable and they provide no advantage over conventional rocket engines for warfare. Same reasons why the US abandoned their nuclear powered aircraft. The US was developing these engines for interplanetary use to save weight and space on fuel but abandoned them in the early 70s.

These kind of account just create justification for USA and the west to attack Iran with tactical nuck ....
creating nuclear warhead is 100 time easier and more effective than this kind of fantasy weapons .

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

You do realize that Pakistan has strategic relations with GCC countries and they have supported Pakistan through every thick and thin.

GCC gets paid... with interest! Pakistan provides salve labor... a subsidy they can and do replace with other wannabe slaves, either from India, Bangladesh or Philippines among others...

Iran can never take their place.Get it into your mind.It's not only about oil&gas.

Iran is right next door... get it over your head that you can solve an energy crisis from choke points... that can be done overland. China has to worry about it's energy exactly because of these choke points that US can block to stop it's energy access from Mideast. Europe got it's underwater pipeline blown up....

There is no alternative... either you produce your own... divest into other forms of energy or access it from easiest, direct and easily secured route possible. That could be overland gas from Turkmenistan or pipelines from Russia or Iran which is right next door. Best yet, Pakistan doesn't need dollars to buy that energy...

Now coming to US stoping Pakistani LNG tanker, it is still a developing story.But if indeed US stops that Tanker from reaching Pakistan, Pakistan has established channels to communicate its concerns. If everything fails, there are alternative routes and then there are alternative suppliers also but since everything is run on credit in Pakistan, we can forget can forget about that.
Confrontation with US for a gas Tanker is a non brainer.

Confrontation?

This tanker was coming as others previously BECAUSE it was heading to Pakistan and thus far no one touched anything headed that way....
This is new and it only reflects that one party would burn a bridge ... a bridge that Pakistan enabled... to get the ceasefire and MoU through ...

That bridge is on fire right now!

 

[Watandar]

Is it the money always?

Yes. There is no money in advocating for Gaza, only pain.

 

[Meengla]

Iranians are pretty creative in visuals! I think the Lego animations will be talked about for a long time.
BTW, Pakistan's retired Air Force officer Khalid Chisti is also saying that he has analyzed the claim and that most likely F-35s were hit in Jordan and that 'real time' intelligence came from either China or Russia, which made that possible. Mr. Chisti is very careful with words.

 

[030292]

GCC gets paid... with interest! Pakistan provides salve labor... a subsidy they can and do replace with other wannabe slaves, either from India, Bangladesh or Philippines among others...


Iran is right next door... get it over your head that you can solve an energy crisis from choke points... that can be done overland. China has to worry about it's energy exactly because of these choke points that US can block to stop it's energy access from Mideast. Europe got it's underwater pipeline blown up....

There is no alternative... either you produce your own... divest into other forms of energy or access it from easiest, direct and easily secured route possible. That could be overland gas from Turkmenistan or pipelines from Russia or Iran which is right next door. Best yet, Pakistan doesn't need dollars to buy that energy...


Confrontation?

This tanker was coming as others previously BECAUSE it was heading to Pakistan and thus far no one touched anything headed that way....
This is new and it only reflects that one party would burn a bridge ... a bridge that Pakistan enabled... to get the ceasefire and MoU through ...

That bridge is on fire right now!

This is trumps way of saying "do more" to pakistan just like his predecessors in bush, obama and biden paying no regard to ground realities.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

I didn't say that. NERVA was for propulsion in space and did not have these issues. The Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion did. The official reason for that too was given as budgetary but later disclosures revealed "severe crash and radiation hazards" as the primary reason for internal opposition. Both technologies had already been demonstrated as workable.

I think we're actually closer in agreement than it may seem. My only objection was to the claim that these concepts "don't make any sense." The historical record clearly shows otherwise, they were engineered, built, tested, and demonstrated. The fact that they were not deployed does not mean the technology was invalid; it means that, for those specific applications, the risks, costs, and practical challenges outweighed the benefits....

So the point is not whether these technologies were possible (they clearly were) but whether they were the best choice for a given mission. I believe we have both made our points clear, perhaps it would be best to leave this part of the discussion here and remain on the topic of the thread.

 

[Shags101]

The question is where he’s repositioning them?

 

[Immortals]

The question is where he’s repositioning them?

Israel most likely

 

[OldTwilight]

The weekly amount escaping Iran’s blockade has been increasing since MoU collapse. The SoH is becoming leaky and Iran will need to assert dominance again by hitting 3-4 ships to get them to back off again.

Do you understand these ships are belong to some countries , and countries usually don't ignore attack on their ships , they will act , some in public , some behind the scene ...

 

[OldTwilight]

The whole world besides a few countries, is an existential threat to Iran, America, South America, Japan etc, are all threats and accomplices

Unfortunately if Iran doesn't strike all of them pre-emptively just in case then it is just a matter of time before they hit Iran like Ukraine did

By doing nothing Iran is giving consent to be attacked first just like Ukraine did recently

The fact is that we have limited resource .... There is some narrow line between acting brave and acting stupid ...

IMO the most logical and cost-effective option for Iran is to go nuclear ...

 

[ShapurII]

IMO the most logical and cost-effective option for Iran is to go nuclear ...

It's the only solution. The US is not going to leave Iran alone, not as long as Trump is in the office and the Congress and the Senate are voting in favor of his foreign policies.

Even if Trump leaves the office, there's always the possibility that his legacy of bullying Iran would remain and would shape the bipartisan policies of the United States in future with regard to Iran.

 

[OldTwilight]