Reuters: Iran to Receive First Batch of Chinese MANPADS Within Weeks

[royalharris]

Oh troll first tell me what is the topic of this thread?

First, take a look at the posts you've made and the things you've said before asking that question.
As I said, you're a hypocrite with double standards.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

First, take a look at the posts you've made and the things you've said before asking that question.
As I said, you're a hypocrite with double standards.

What do I wrong? and you're also insulting Turkish defense products for nothing, and why I'm hypocrite with double standard explain it to me?

 

[royalharris]

What do I wrong? and you're also insulting Turkish defense products for nothing, and why I'm hypocrite with double standard explain it to me?

I'm simply stating the facts. It's you who can't accept them.
A country that lacks advanced foundational industries—such as advanced materials, metallurgy, electronic components, and semiconductor manufacturing—cannot produce truly advanced military equipment.

 

[royalharris]

When you can't accept the facts, you resort to lashing out and attacking others, for example,China.
You're an ungrateful person.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I'm simply stating the facts. It's you who can't accept them.
A country that lacks advanced foundational industries—such as advanced materials, metallurgy, electronic components, and semiconductor manufacturing—cannot produce truly advanced military equipment.

see you're trolling, can I show you what Turkey is capable of doing in aviation industries, and why you compare flying toys on Amazon with KAAN?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

When you can't accept the facts, you resort to lashing out and attacking others, for example,China.
You're an ungrateful person.

and you're grateful people to insult Turkey, what hypocrite you're with double standard lol

 

[royalharris]

see you're trolling, can I show you what Turkey is capable of doing in aviation industries, and why you compare flying toys on Amazon with KAAN?

Apart from Turkey and those who blindly support it, no country thinks Kaan performance is good.
Just ppt or models
In the public's perception, Turkey's KAAN and Iran's Qaher-313 are in the same league.

 

[Nimble]

Qaher-313 Officially Disclosed Parameters by Iran (Released at the 2013 Debut Press Conference and accompanying PPT)

1. Basic Configuration Parameters

1. Positioning: An indigenously developed 5th-generation light stealth multirole fighter of Iran, dedicated to low-altitude penetration, short takeoff and landing (STOL), air-to-ground strike and air combat missions.

2. Crew: Single-seat

3. Aerodynamic Layout: Canard configuration, upper-mounted S-shaped stealth air intakes, outward-canted V-tail, main wings with downward-bent wingtips for stealth shaping.

4. Airframe Dimensions (Official Stated Figures)
Fuselage length: 14 m; Wingspan: 8 m; Fuselage height: less than 4 m; classified as a compact light fighter.

5. Power System (Official Description)
Equipped with an Iranian reverse-engineered J85 turbojet engine. The initial design adopted a single-engine layout, while later revised iterations switched to twin-engine configuration. No official thrust figures were released; only described as a 100% domestically produced power system.

6. Weight Range (Official Estimation)
Empty weight: 12–14 tons; Maximum takeoff weight: under 20 tons.

2. Weapon Carrying Capacity (Key Official Payload Indicators)

Designed with twin internal weapon bays, with three mounting configurations:

1. Air-to-Ground Mode: 2 × 910 kg (2,000 lb) heavy guided bombs

2. Multirole Mode: Multiple compact smart precision munitions

3. Air Superiority Mode: Minimum 6 medium-range air-to-air missiles comparable to PL-12 / R-77 specifications.

3. Officially Announced Stealth and Avionics Configuration

1. Stealth Design: The whole airframe is coated with domestically developed radar-absorbent material (RAM). S-curved air intakes shield engine blades; mixed cold air injection at the exhaust nozzle suppresses infrared signatures. Polygonal stealth shaping reduces radar cross-section (RCS).

2. Cockpit: Panoramic bubble canopy offering 360° surrounding vision, optimized for low-altitude contour flight; glass integrated multifunctional avionics cockpit.

3. Takeoff & Landing Performance: Capable of operating from short primitive forward airstrips and small wartime airfields within Iran.

4. Mission Profile: Three primary missions: low-altitude penetration, air defense interception, and deep strike operations.

4. Ten Officially Highlighted Design Advantages (Released simultaneously by Mehr News Agency)

1. S-shaped stealth air intakes adopting design logic similar to the F-35;

2. Hot and cold air mixing at exhaust nozzles to reduce infrared detectability;

3. Full coverage of radar-absorbent composite materials across the airframe;

4. Twin internal weapon bays to avoid enlarged radar reflection caused by external ordnance;

5. Outward-canted vertical stabilizers balancing directional stability and lateral stealth performance;

6. Panoramic cockpit improving visibility for low-altitude flight and close-range dogfights;

7. Specially shaped bent wings enhancing lift at low altitude;

8. Simplified single-strut landing gear adaptable to primitive runways;

9. Full digital simulation throughout the design phase;

10. Simplified maintenance architecture to facilitate rapid field repair in wartime.

It's wings also look very strange.... Iranians must be having something properly planned when they designed this aircraft.... if they were not under sanctions imagine it would be flying in 100s of nos today....

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Apart from Turkey and those who blindly support it, no country thinks Kaan performance is good.
Just ppt or models

And why you think that we blindly support Turkey? And KAAN is initial phases of development with weaker engines, Just like your J-20/J-35 are initially uses stop-gap engines during the developments (AL-31F/WS-10/WS-13)

 

[royalharris]

Iran has a very comprehensive industrial system, and this aircraft looks extremely impressive. Without sanctions, its achievements would be truly remarkable

It's wings also look very strange.... Iranians must be having something properly planned when they designed this aircraft.... if they were not under sanctions imagine it would be flyingnin 100s of nos today....

 

[royalharris]

And why you think that we blindly support Turkey? And KAAN is initial phases of development with weaker engines, Just like your J-20/J-35 are initially uses stop-gap engines during the developments (AL-31F/WS-10/WS-13)

You're being far too naive.
An advanced fighter aircraft is about much more than just its engine. It depends on a country's entire industrial foundation, including metallurgy, materials science, electronics, semiconductor manufacturing, aerospace engineering, flight control technology, and many other fields.
Without these foundations, it's simply impossible to build a truly capable fighter aircraft.

That's why, today, only China and the United States are capable of independently developing advanced fighter aircraft. Russia has fallen somewhat behind, while European countries have to work together to develop a next-generation fighter.

The reason is simple: apart from China and the United States, no other major economy possesses such a complete industrial foundation.

 

[Anatolia]

Apart from Turkey and those who blindly support it, no country thinks Kaan performance is good.
Just ppt or models
In the public's perception, Turkey's KAAN and Iran's Qaher-313 are in the same league.

People keep comparing KAAN to Iran’s Qaher‑313 is a joke , but that comparison simply isn’t grounded in facts. KAAN is a real, flying fifth‑generation prototype built by an industrial ecosystem that already produces operational fighter jets, helicopters, UAVs, engines, radars, and avionics. Qaher‑313, on the other hand, has never flown, never demonstrated systems, and is widely considered a mock‑up by defence analysts.

So, what exactly is the comparison ?

KAAN completed its maiden flight in 2024 and has continued test flights since. This alone puts it in a completely different category from projects that exist only as models or static displays.

KAAN Block‑1 is planned to enter service with interim engines, while Block‑2 and Block‑3 will incorporate more advanced stealth shaping, domestic engines, and enhanced sensor fusion. This is a structured, multi‑stage program similar to how the F‑35 and KF‑21 evolved.

We can be proud of this as Turks, even if it bothers some of you people.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You're being far too naive.
An advanced fighter aircraft is about much more than just its engine. It depends on a country's entire industrial foundation, including metallurgy, materials science, electronics, semiconductor manufacturing, aerospace engineering, flight control technology, and many other fields.
Without these foundations, it's simply impossible to build a truly capable fighter aircraft.

And why you think Turkey haven't these industries? explain it

 

[Nimble]

lol do you know what is the T/W and lift to drag ratio of Qaher 313? and Iran has no money to develop Qaher 313 further, and Turkey is far far more advance than primetive Iran in terms of aerospace sector (remember Turkey was a tech developer and Mid- body developer of F-35 project)

Initially everyone doubted Iranian Missiles technology as well.... people thought how they can develop hypersonic missiles when under heavy sanctions.... but today it's proven what their missiles are capable of....

Qaher-313 design looks somewhat close to Chinese 6th generation White Empror.... look at it's pics that design is also very strange like Qaher-313.... so I think it's not wise to underestimate....

 

[Anatolia]

Initially everyone doubted Iranian Missiles technology as well.... people thought how they can develop hypersonic missiles when under heavy sanctions.... but today it's proven what their missiles are capable of....

Qaher-313 design looks somewhat close to Chinese 6th generation White Empror.... look at it's pics that design is also very strange like Qaher-313.... so I think it's not wise to underestimate....

Is this a joke?

You’re comparing missile development to building a 5th‑generation fighter jet, which makes no sense at all. These are completely different engineering domains. A country can be strong in missile technology and still be decades behind in advanced aviation. the skill sets, industrial base, and testing requirements are not even similar is it?

KAAN is already flying, already integrating real avionics, already undergoing test campaigns, and backed by an industry that produces helicopters, UAVs, trainers, radars, and engines. Qaher‑313 has never flown, never demonstrated systems, and has no verified testing data. Comparing the two because “missile tech improved” is like saying a country that builds good refrigerators can suddenly build nuclear submarines.