Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan meet as Ankara pushes for a security pact

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[Goenitz]

I understand what he was saying. I am just expanding on the potential for Iran to join this for our Iranian friend. Greater Israel is the bigger concern medium to long term for these countries and America's fickleness and unreliability is exposed for all to see.

I think it should be like a Venn diagram. Pak should be a common denominator. SA, Qatar and Turkey must have a common pact. Egypt and SA have a mutual bilateral pact. Iran should align with Iraq, Russia and China. Iran/Iraq should leave Syria in Turkey's camp. Pak should play a pivotal role with no side. UAE is in israel and india camp.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Keep the Egypt out of it.

I think Egypt is only in the position it is in because there's nothing alternative available to it.

If it was, it would gladly grab it with both hands.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

As I keep saying, turn your guns on Israel and watch how quick this conflict ends.

Last time their guns lost whole of Sinai Peninsula.

Six-Day War - Wikipedia

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Egypt and Jordan proved to be wise, while Iraq, Syria and Lebanon, not so wise.

 

[HRK]

why so? we control suez canal , we have strategic location between asia , africa and europe plus other things.

This is the reason .... You are geographically next door neighbor to Israel .... Therefore, Including Egypt in in any "mutual defense pact" may be seen by Uncle Sam and Israel as "threat to their interests in the region".

This does not mean we don't want to see a strong Egypt who could defend itself in any future threat therefore we must keep Egypt engage in defense cooperation training R&D etc. etc. but any agreement similar to Pak- Saudi defense pact is premature at this point in time.

BTW the current under discussion agreement is not a mutual defense agreement similar to NATO style as clarified by Turkish representative.
, its would just be platform for common solutions ,R&D type activities etc.

 

[Vapnope]

Wishful thinking. The fact is that no such alliance is workable. Pakistan will be abosolute loser in any such arrangement. Case in point saudi Pak defence pact.

 

[hodor]

This alliance will be difficult to succeed. First of all, full integration in the defense industry is necessary. All communication systems and training doctrines must be common. In addition, the command hierarchy needs to be managed from a single center. Building these will require at least 10 years. The fact that each national leader must support the project with determination for 10 years is another issue.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Keep the Egypt out of it.

correct, they are in the MOSSAD pocket.
I dont know if these all countries have even a quarter of resolve shown by Iranians.
will they stand up when not IF) their number comes up and Israel directs Ameria to start bombing them?

 

[Blain2]

Pakistan stands ‘ready, honoured’ to host US-Iran talks, says PM Shehbaz​

News Desk | Tahir Khan Published March 24, 2026 Updated 32 minutes ago

This July 31 photo shows former prime minister Shehbaz Sharif during a meeting with Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng at the Prime Minister’s Office in Islamabad. — Photo courtesy: PMO
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Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said on Tuesday that Pakistan stood “ready and honoured” to host “meaningful and conclusive talks” between the US and Iran.

“Pakistan welcomes and fully supports ongoing efforts to pursue dialogue to end the war in the Middle East, in the interest of peace and stability in the region and beyond,” he said in a post on the social media platform X.

“Subject to concurrence by the US and Iran, Pakistan stands ready and honoured to be the host to facilitate meaningful and conclusive talks for a comprehensive settlement of the ongoing conflict,” he said.

PM Shehbaz’s statement came shortly after the Foreign Office (FO) urged the media to refrain from speculation and await official announcements when asked about reports of Islamabad being a possible venue for talks between the US and Iranian representatives amid the ongoing Middle East conflict.

“Pakistan, consistent with its longstanding policy, remains committed to the resolution of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East/Persian Gulf through diplomatic means and engagements,” FO spokesperson Tahir Andrabi said in response to queries about the reports.

“Diplomacy and negotiations often require that certain matters be advanced with discretion. The media is therefore encouraged to refrain from speculation and to await official announcements regarding decisions and outcomes,” he said.

A day earlier, Andrabi said in response to a query by Dawn, “If the parties desire, Islamabad is always willing to host talks.” He recalled that Pakistan had consistently advocated for dialogue and diplomacy to promote peace and stability in the region.

The developments come as several international media outlets, including Reuters and Axios, suggested that Islamabad could serve as a venue for potential direct talks between US and Iranian representatives in the coming days.

The ongoing conflict in the Middle East, which has entered its fourth week, began with the US and Israel launching attacks on Iran on February 28. The strikes also resulted in the assassination of then-supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

On Monday, Pakistan took centre stage in a coordinated diplomatic push alongside Turkiye and Egypt for de-escalation, as the trio appeared instrumental in securing a five-day pause of US plans to strike Iranian energy and power infrastructure, officials said, describing the effort as going beyond routine crisis management.

US President Donald Trump publicly announced the pause on strikes on Monday, claiming Washington had held “very good and productive conversations” with Tehran over the previous couple of days that could lead to a “complete and total resolution” of hostilities.

The pause, however, remains conditional and limited to strikes on Iranian power plants and major energy assets, with fighting continuing across multiple fronts.

Reporting by the Financial Times and Axios suggested that senior officials from the three countries separately engaged with US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, relaying positions between the two sides.

The exchanges were indirect, with no direct contact reported between Washington and Tehran.

The scope of the backchannel discussions went beyond an immediate pause. Officials said the exchanges focused on de-escalation, reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, and the parameters of a broader end to the war.

On Monday, Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Esmail Baghaei, while confirming that messages had been conveyed in recent days through several “friendly countries”, said the Iranian response was centred on its “principled positions”.

Iran also denied any direct or indirect negotiation with the Trump administration or Witkoff, framing the US announcement as an attempt to influence markets.

Tehran has maintained that any resolution must include guarantees against future US or Israeli attacks, reparations for damage, recognition of its rights, a comprehensive regional arrangement, and a framework for navigation through the Strait of Hormuz.

Despite the Iranian denials about negotiations, US officials maintain that the indirect messaging helped create the conditions for the pause.

Meanwhile, a source in Pakistan told Dawn that “through active back channel diplomacy involving Steve Witkoff and Abbas Araghchi, these three nations (Pakistan, Turkiye and Egypt) are showing that quiet communication is often the most direct path to global peace”.

PM Shehbaz also held a phone call with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Monday, with the PM’s Office (PMO) saying the former conveyed concern over the “dangerous ongoing hostilities” and stressed “the urgent need to work collectively for de-escalation and a return to dialogue and diplomacy”.

“He stressed upon the critical importance of unity in the ranks of the ummah, that was required more than ever before,” the PMO statement said, adding that Pakistan would “continue to play a constructive role in facilitating peace in the region”.

The call, which was publicly announced as an Eid and Nowruz greeting exchange, came as engagement with regional and international interlocutors moved into high gear.

Pakistan stands ‘ready, honoured’ to host US-Iran talks, says PM Shehbaz

Says offer "subject to concurrence by the US and Iran"; Pakistan fully supports ongoing efforts to pursue dialogue to end the war.

www.dawn.com

 

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[Aziqbal]

as long as its a anti US and anti Israel alliance

but I doubt it, only Iran can take US and Israel in one sitting

 

[retaxis]

US has too much influence over those countries. They need to have the US sign off on any major alliance otherwise US will say its a threat to Israel and use sanctions/threats/blockades etc.

 

[falcon34]

We would be fools to get into this pact the moment those indian son of whores attack these two nations will do everything fking thing in their power to restrain Pakistan.
Fk that kanjar of ghq penchod.

 

[Watandar]

US has too much influence over those countries. They need to have the US sign off on any major alliance otherwise US will say its a threat to Israel and use sanctions/threats/blockades etc.

There is some speculation it is the US that is behind the scenes architecting and encouraging this alliance. So it can setup a balance of power in the region , this alliance v Israel v Iran, and be able to step back.