Makkah Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[PakAl]

With all due respect, I don't expect Iran to enter into alliances with NATO or states aligned with Kushner's agenda. That is precisely why Iran has never joined the Zionist-led "board of peace." Iran has consistently stayed away from anything that even remotely appears to be under U.S. or Israeli influence.

Recently, Erdoğan, whose government continues to supply fuel to Israeli fighter jets, condemned Ansarallah in Yemen for its operations in the Red Sea. Yet we heard no condemnation of Saudi Arabia when it attacked Sanaa Airport, no condemnation of the Saudi blockade of Yemeni ports that has lasted for over a decade, and no condemnation of Saudi Arabia's support for U.S. military operations against Iran or the recent Saudi-American attacks in Iraq.

Following the recent NATO summit and the red-carpet reception for war criminal Trump, it appears that the "NATO Sultan" is increasingly fishing sectarian waters.

However, this will not alter the determined, independent, and anti-imperialist course pursued by Yemen, Iran, and their broader allies, which progresses in the background.

This agreement could fit into a broader U.S. strategy to provoke a confrontation with Iran by targeting Iranian infrastructure, expecting Iran to retaliate against Saudi infrastructure, whereafter U.S. and Israel hope to encourage a coordinated response by Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia against Iran.

Ofcourse I hope I'm totally wrong and that Turkey and Pakistan stay neutral as always when it comes to a potential future conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Iran would love to join this alliance but they are not invited, the Saudis will not allow it. During Malaysian Summit Iran was ready to sign defence agreement with Turkey Pakistan Indonesia Malaysia and others but Saudis over one phone call made Pakistan fold.

 

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But who's the cat that makes the call ?

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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This sounds like the brochure of a company that makes vaporware. Your weird examples of Houthis or Sindoor do not apply to Israel, a country with missiles and an Air Force that far exceeds India or Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. In addition the Israelis have access to unlimited Western intel , EW, radar , weapons etc. I am not going to debate your silly nuke talk.

Do you think a Pakistan that fights Israel will get IMF/World Bank loans ? Or its elites will get visas to the most-desired West ? or GSP trade status in Europe ?

Do you think India and the Taliban will sit quietly while Pakistan is gallantly fighting far away Israelis to protect far-away Saudis ?

The target of this pact is not Israel.

It seems you ARE VERY HURT by this deal.............................................the purpose of this deal is to EVENETUALLY make Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia SO MILITARILY POWERFUL that NO-ONE dares attacks them. We may not be there yet but there is a LONG JOURNEY ahead. The ONLY ALTERNATIVE to this is that we suffer the SAME fate as the Palestinians in Gaza.

What do you want Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia to do? Do NOTHING and then end up like the Palestinians in Gaza? NOT happening.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I am actually glad that Munir is not in this picture! ( I am no fan of SS ) but I think Pakistan does need to solve its dual personality syndrome soon and actually start to function as a normal grown up country.

( I noticed that the Saudi's had their defense minister stand next to Munir in one of the photo's etc).

 

[GoatsMilk]

India , Israel and Greece are cying

Saudi Arabia, Pakistan & Turkey sign 'Mecca' pact for mutual defence; India reacts

Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey Friday signed a trilateral defence agreement aimed at strengthening their collective security as the conflict involving Iran continues to fuel instability across the West Asia.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Big love to nuclear Power Pakistan which gives nuclear umbrella to S.Arabia and Turkiye

Money and technology should follow into Pakistan from S.Arabia and Turkiye

Someone else on here mentioned it before and i think its critical. The alliance between Turkiye, Saudi and Pakistan if it works is far greater then the sum of its parts. If it works it will defacto bring many more nations into the alliance.

Turkiye, Saudi and Pakistan all have certain connections, Just a small example would be Turkiye brining in Syria, Azerbaijan, Libya potentially.

So if this works and its not undermined by the usual zionist pigs who don't go to bed at night unless they have committed nefarious acts during the day it will open the path to something far greater.

If the alliance were to expand to 10 nations, no one in it could ever reasonably be attacked again.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

No matter what, FM Asim Munir is the most Bakhtiyar amongst the Pak Chiefs! He'll be the folk with the strategic assets that matter most under his belt. Looks like the Pak Deep State has made him an FM with a mission and a vision.....

 

[Sinan]

If you know me well you won't say that to me , i'm the most anti-sisi ever on the internet and in real life.

sisi is dumb and wants power but you need to know he is fragile also and the leadership not 100% in his hands , there is the deep state (whom i hate also) but at least they won't drag us to wars that we don't want.

why would we attack houthis or iran and waste our resources and break our economy (that's already broken) ? to give a chance to israel to invade sinai again? or bomb us ? no.

saudis can do whatever they want and we will do whatever we want .

Your understanding of military alliance is at fault.

You don't go automatically war with Yemen because they send missiles at Saudi Arabia. First of all Saudi Arabia needs ask for help, only after then you choose to go help. And it's not like you need to invade Yemen. You send a contingent of your choosing, maybe a brigade maybe some air defense units, maybe humanitarian aid contingent.

That's how NATO's article 5 operates. When US attacked in 9/11, they invoked article 5. Turkish military went to Afghanistan too but only with a non-combatant brigade to give humanitarian aid to Afghans, like offering free healt-care to Afghan people, teachers operating schools, etc.

 

[Starlord]

Somalia due to somaliland

I am trying to imagine a situation, where Qatar ko Gali ke badmash cough cough Israel ne chamat laga diya aur woh rote hue bol raha rukh abhi londay le ke ata hun hahaha and here comes our 3 Turkiye/Pakistan/KSA haha.

 

[Ali_Baba]

No one is attacking other Muslim states, what we need is change and an alliance that can start to make a difference

This is the start

Egypt at the moment is a weak link in the Arab and Muslim world, that needs to change

The weakness comes not from its military capabilities, but from its leadership and lack of strategic thought or engagement.

 

[Meengla]

India , Israel and Greece are cying

Saudi Arabia, Pakistan & Turkey sign 'Mecca' pact for mutual defence; India reacts

Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey Friday signed a trilateral defence agreement aimed at strengthening their collective security as the conflict involving Iran continues to fuel instability across the West Asia.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Big love to nuclear Power Pakistan which gives nuclear umbrella to S.Arabia and Turkiye
Money and technology should follow into Pakistan from S.Arabia and Turkiye

Of course Indians and Israelis are going to cry over this three party alliance. And IMO, Israeli are more honest to understand this and even talk about it. Indians... except for a few analysts from a nation of 1.5 billion, are too deluded to see where Modi's stupid foreign policy has landed India.
India tried to ride multiple boats at the same time. But it forgot the great words of Canada's Mark Carney last year at a major event: "Either you are the table or you are on the menu". Carney may have added to that by saying 'Or you would be serving Chai to the table" [Pun intended!]

 

[Yasser76]

It seems you ARE VERY HURT by this deal.............................................the purpose of this deal is to EVENETUALLY make Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia SO MILITARILY POWERFUL that NO-ONE dares attacks them. We may not be there yet but there is a LONG JOURNEY ahead. The ONLY ALTERNATIVE to this is that we suffer the SAME fate as the Palestinians in Gaza.

What do you want Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia to do? Do NOTHING and then end up like the Palestinians in Gaza? NOT happening.

Indians will be hurt bro, I am loving seeing them cope on here

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran would love to join this alliance but they are not invited, the Saudis will not allow it. During Malaysian Summit Iran was ready to sign defence agreement with Turkey Pakistan Indonesia Malaysia and others but Saudis over one phone call made Pakistan fold.

Well said, that's why we can only guess the true intentions of this pact.

 

[Yasser76]

FYI This news seems to be making top story in most international news sites.

Some articles are suggesting US approval of this in private

 

[PakAl]

Maybe I am dumb but this raises so many questions in my head.

Türkiye is already part of NATO, they have US and Europe to defend them - in theory at least. Why do they need Pakistan? and what can Pakistan do to support that the mighty Amreeka cannot? Türkiye itself is militarily doing a lot better than Pakistan. Saudi is not exactly known for having an effective military machine. So what does Türkiye get out of it?

Saudis might feel a bit more comfortable against Iran perhaps since they would now have men ready to be sacrificed for them. They can already buy any weapons in the world so they don't need Pakistan and Türkiye for weapons. They get Pakistani manpower to operate Western weapons I guess.

Most importantly though, what does Pakistan get out of it? apart from of course comfortable retirement packages for the generals and the other thieves.

If India invades, would Saudis lend us their Typhoons and F15s? Would we get free supply of oil? Will we get free KAANs and advanced Turkish drones?

My bet is that its just one of the countless useless episodes to make the Saudi royals feel good. Like that 'Coalition of Islamic armies' that a retired army chief was appointed to lead - whatever happened to that.

I am open to be enlightened though.

Saudis have trillions of wealth, they also command alot of power with the western led world order. This agreement is mainly to protect Saudi Arabia and AlSaud family. Pakistan jumped because of $$$ and Turkey to become a regional power, expand their influence and relations with the arab world. Even if their was no agreement, Pakistan leadership mentioned many times they will defend Saudi Arabia from external attacks, the same policy applies to Turkey, so the agreement is just to make it official. I dont think this is done without Usa blessing, or else Trump can sabotage it easily.