US Ambassador Sergio Gor Visits J&K, Calls Region An Important Part Of India; Pakistan Protests

[Musings]

It would be strange indeed if pak is still claiming it is concerned about human rights in kashmir...look at what s happening in Pakistan Azaad Kashmir

Indian concerned about human rights? Pot calling the kettle black?

 

[Yasser76]

Well well well. So much to unravel here, where do I start?

Lots of little Indians one day going "US not important saar" to "Yes, US ambassador said something about Kashmir, VICTORY SAAR!"

No plebisite allowed still I take it? The worst place for Human Rights on the planet after Gaza according to independent reports

Lets see what Trump, the actual ring master said about Kashmir shall we?

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Shows just how in awe Indians still are that a lowly US officials off the cuff remarks gets the entire country in a frenzy. Till The Donald Changes his tune I would not get your Dhotis in a twist....

 

[Yasser76]

Lol yeah. All

Admitting you are a multi ID rat is quite the thing.....

 

[Yasser76]

Kashmir conflict is a closed chapter. India moves on.

Not according to leaders of Iran, China, Iran and Pakistan, all of whom are on record as saying it needs a resolution, keep dreaming Suresh

 

[Yasser76]

americunts doesn’t matter in question of sovereignty of India…. No one trust these pedos

All of India is jumping up and down, mass circle jerk, that is how in awe of America you still are

 

[Yasser76]

Obvious—it’s a dead horse .

However, it will remain alive in the UN chapter of “unresolved disputes.”

New leaders will come, beat the same old music on a new drum, and make a big show of it. But eventually, no one will care. People will simply enjoy the party and move on.

Nope, being highlighted at most global forums and not just by Pakistan

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

The reason Indians are dancing like monkeys on Gor statement prove even they know Kashmir status.

 

[Yasser76]

The reason Indians are dancing like monkeys on Gor statement prove even they know Kashmir status.

100% THIS! If he said that about Tamil Nadu or Kerela no one would bat an eyelid, scars run deep in these clowns

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Nope, being highlighted at most global forums and not just by Pakistan

A few Pakistani friends -mostly Turkey and one or two another countries - that's all.

It does not make any difference - they can continue to do so, dead horse is not going to wake up for such things...

The Kashmir dispute has reached a point where the biggest obstacle is not merely the question of holding a vote, but agreement on the conditions under which such a vote would take place. Pakistan demands a plebiscite in the Indian-administered areas while maintaining its own control over Pakistan-administered Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.

At this point, I don't think anything is going to happen. If someone asks me about the Kashmir issue, my first question would be to the UN: why was independence never offered as an option—why only India or Pakistan? If the Kashmiri people were genuinely supposed to decide their future, shouldn't independence also have been considered?
And this is precisely where the problem becomes impossible to solve. Pakistan would likely never agree to an independence option if it believed the people in its administered areas might choose differently. India, meanwhile, has already rejected the plebiscite framework. So today, both sides have completely different positions, and neither is willing to accept the conditions required by the other.
That is why I don't see a realistic plebiscite happening now. The dispute has moved far beyond the original UN formula.

Both countries never agreed on a common framework and will never be agreed, UN can't force anyone to accept it

 

[Yasser76]

A few Pakistani friends -mostly Turkey and one or two another countries - that's all.

It does not make any difference - they can continue to do so, dead horse is not going to wake up for such things...

Even in India it is not a dead horse, globally, once you get your head out of the monkey's ass that is Godi Media you will see US, Chinese, Turkish, Iranian and others are ON RECORD as saying it is a dispute. So yeah, just ignore the most powerful countries in the world.....

 

[Distant_Observer]

Pakistan should proceed with decapitation strikes on India and destroy all the infrastructure connecting Kashmir with India and then launch the ground invasion.

Indians have no place in the northern areas of the subcontinent.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Even in India it is not a dead horse, globally, once you get your head out of the monkey's ass that is Godi Media you will see US, Chinese, Turkish, Iranian and others are ON RECORD as saying it is a dispute. So yeah, just ignore the most powerful countries in the world.....

When china taked about Kashmir - give any recent statement?

Don't be fooled - they never care about Kashmir, they never brought Kashmir issues between india and china relationship... Their only concern was and is, the claim of ladakh..

 

[Meengla]

Amb. Gor is not the only America Ambassador who clearly deviated from the official American position on the Kashmir dispute. IIRC, there was another American Ambassador to India about 10-15 years ago who would say such things--some Galbraith dude? Add to similar statements like the US Ambassador to Israel Huckabee. The American position in Kashmir is officially clear and they are not going to intervene on behalf of either India or Pakistan over the dispute.

PS. I was shocked to see a recent official American media--maybe it was the Pentagon--which showed the entire region of Jammu and Kashmir on a map as being part of Pakistan! No dotted lines!! Probably a mistake but the map's boundaries were clear.

 

[Yasser76]

When china taked about Kashmir - give any recent statement?

Don't be fooled - they never care about Kashmir, they never brought Kashmir issues between india and china relationship... Their only concern was and is, the claim of ladakh..

Not right in the head are you? Both Pakistan and China do not recognise parts of Kashmir as Indian. You do know that right?

 

[peacemaker99]

A few Pakistani friends -mostly Turkey and one or two another countries - that's all.

It does not make any difference - they can continue to do so, dead horse is not going to wake up for such things...

The Kashmir dispute has reached a point where the biggest obstacle is not merely the question of holding a vote, but agreement on the conditions under which such a vote would take place. Pakistan demands a plebiscite in the Indian-administered areas while maintaining its own control over Pakistan-administered Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.

At this point, I don't think anything is going to happen. If someone asks me about the Kashmir issue, my first question would be to the UN: why was independence never offered as an option—why only India or Pakistan? If the Kashmiri people were genuinely supposed to decide their future, shouldn't independence also have been considered?
And this is precisely where the problem becomes impossible to solve. Pakistan would likely never agree to an independence option if it believed the people in its administered areas might choose differently. India, meanwhile, has already rejected the plebiscite framework. So today, both sides have completely different positions, and neither is willing to accept the conditions required by the other.
That is why I don't see a realistic plebiscite happening now. The dispute has moved far beyond the original UN formula.

Both countries never agreed on a common framework and will never be agreed, UN can't force anyone to accept it

Which 2 other countries? Even afghans consider kashmir to be part of india. And turkey will turn.