PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[Watandar]

chalo nice that one of his former cricket colleagues expressed some concern for Mr Khan.

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[hydrabadi_arab]

"Jailed former Pakistan PM Imran Khan would not confront the military or army chief Asim Munir if freed, his aide Zulfikar Bukhari told Reuters, signaling a possible path to reconciliation"

There it is. Remember Zulfi is very very very close to Bushra Bibi as one remember from leaked calls.

 

[Goenitz]

"Jailed former Pakistan PM Imran Khan would not confront the military or army chief Asim Munir if freed, his aide Zulfikar Bukhari told Reuters, signaling a possible path to reconciliation"

There it is. Remember Zulfi is very very very close to Bushra Bibi as one remember from leaked calls.

IK has no personal issue with anybody.




He just asked for civil rights, and he will not back down. If Asim is in the way, then he will face it.

 

[Goenitz]

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[Watandar]

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The public is with Imran Khan and PTI. If anyone doubts this , they can call for fresh elections and observe the results.

 

[Goenitz]

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[flyingorca]

It takes decades to undo the damage Fauj has done to Pakistan, the terrorism and kalshnikov culture they gifted us. Only brats could justify this stuff. Have you ever talked to a Fauji brat btw? They're the most insufferable creatures. They'll tell you that it is their right to eat and loot the country because their daddy gives 'qurbani'. Not sure if their daddy is a soldier or a goat on Eid.

Here we go again. Never admit your political party shortcomings, at this point your favorite strategy is to just blame everything on Army.
I merely asked, what makes KPK look like a sub par city with deplorable women rights issues, child abuse, trash problem that DOES NOT EVEN REQUIRE HIGH BUDGET and your response is Army because of Soviet War and WOT?
People like you actually make things worse for your own people by whitewashing issues that needs to be dealt with.
And haven't we already covered Soviet Afghan war and WOT issue and why Pakistan was left with no other option? Did i not made it clear for you how it became obligatory duty for us at that time to help Afghans who were getting slaughtered and graped by Soviets? 80,000 Palestinians killed and PTI supporters wants Pakistan to put its survival at steak and fight a war directly with Israel But SAAAR 2,000,000 Afghan deaths was not enough reason for Pakistan to help Afghanistan. And how exactly was Pakistan suppose to help Afghanistan fight soviets? With bouquet of flowers ??? You people are so out of touch of ground reality and live in your own universe.
Have I not made it clear enough why Pakistan was left with no other choise but to participate in WOT? You think if Immi bahi was in charge he would have been able to get away by just saying absolutely not to US demands at the time when US influence around the world was at peak?
And where did Army brats come from in this discussion? Can you find more relevant discussion to bring Army brats or is this your only line of defense when ever someone questions 15 years of PTI rule in KPK?





They will never be able to work it and make it look like Punjab, especially with ongoing terrorism, but they have minor things. Lots of small dams, bus network, police reform, they have a sehat card still running there and the Swat motorway was done in their tenure by PKHA too. Their police is DEFINITELY better than Punjab's.

you keep saying KPK police is better then Punjab, can you tell me what have to done to eliminate bachabazi from KPK that seems like has been normalized? Or is child abuse not among PTI's priority?


There is a partially completed Peshawar ring road and few underpass/flyover projects too.
Again this is minor at a provincial level but its a total myth that PTI has done nothing in KPK.

For 15 years rule, this is poor performance.

 

[Cipher212]

Here we go again. Never admit your political party shortcomings, at this point your favorite strategy is to just blame everything on Army.
I merely asked, what makes KPK look like a sub par city with deplorable women rights issues, child abuse, trash problem that DOES NOT EVEN REQUIRE HIGH BUDGET and your response is Army because of Soviet War and WOT?
People like you actually make things worse for your own people by whitewashing issues that needs to be dealt with.
And haven't we already covered Soviet Afghan war and WOT issue and why Pakistan was left with no other option? Did i not made it clear for you how it became obligatory duty for us at that time to help Afghans who were getting slaughtered and graped by Soviets? 80,000 Palestinians killed and PTI supporters wants Pakistan to put its survival at steak and fight a war directly with Israel But SAAAR 2,000,000 Afghan deaths was not enough reason for Pakistan to help Afghanistan. And how exactly was Pakistan suppose to help Afghanistan fight soviets? With bouquet of flowers ??? You people are so out of touch of ground reality and live in your own universe.
Have I not made it clear enough why Pakistan was left with no other choise but to participate in WOT? You think if Immi bahi was in charge he would have been able to get away by just saying absolutely not to US demands at the time when US influence around the world was at peak?
And where did Army brats come from in this discussion? Can you find more relevant discussion to bring Army brats or is this your only line of defense when ever someone questions 15 years of PTI rule in KPK?





They will never be able to work it and make it look like Punjab, especially with ongoing terrorism, but they have minor things. Lots of small dams, bus network, police reform, they have a sehat card still running there and the Swat motorway was done in their tenure by PKHA too. Their police is DEFINITELY better than Punjab's.

you keep saying KPK police is better then Punjab, can you tell me what have to done to eliminate bachabazi from KPK that seems like has been normalized? Or is child abuse not among PTI's priority?


There is a partially completed Peshawar ring road and few underpass/flyover projects too.
Again this is minor at a provincial level but its a total myth that PTI has done nothing in KPK.

For 15 years rule, this is poor performance.

I am not interested in discussing PTI's political shortcomings with you until you first accept that the military needs to stay far away from politics. As long as you keep justifying general's unconstitutional behaviour it's pointless to talk about how PTI has fared so far. Whether they are good bad or mediocre they at least have the right. Tumhari Fauj ki kya right hay?

I don't like to bring in personal experience into this because it's the Internet and anyone can make things up but I've interacted with enough of these bloody jarnayls and colonels and captain major flana tamkana. They are all idiots with no business doing anything other than army stuff. They climb up in life too fast and get too hungry for the creature comforts that come with it.

And yes, maybe you are not aware but when you set up militant training camps and bring in drugs and guns and all sorts of cross border shenanigans then definitely, that province will suffer. Khair these are the blessings we have been receiving since Zia era, aaj ki baat nahi hay.

And let's not get into the bachabaazi stuff. You think nothing of that sort happens in Punjab boy? Forgotten the Kasur cases?

 

[flyingorca]

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PTI propaganda nonsense.
Always trying to fit Imran Khan with Mr. Jinnah.
Btw, Pakistan Army until 1950 was still under British control and it did not even repersent what it is today.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Here we go again. Never admit your political party shortcomings, at this point your favorite strategy is to just blame everything on Army.
I merely asked, what makes KPK look like a sub par city with deplorable women rights issues, child abuse, trash problem that DOES NOT EVEN REQUIRE HIGH BUDGET and your response is Army because of Soviet War and WOT?
People like you actually make things worse for your own people by whitewashing issues that needs to be dealt with.
And haven't we already covered Soviet Afghan war and WOT issue and why Pakistan was left with no other option? Did i not made it clear for you how it became obligatory duty for us at that time to help Afghans who were getting slaughtered and graped by Soviets? 80,000 Palestinians killed and PTI supporters wants Pakistan to put its survival at steak and fight a war directly with Israel But SAAAR 2,000,000 Afghan deaths was not enough reason for Pakistan to help Afghanistan. And how exactly was Pakistan suppose to help Afghanistan fight soviets? With bouquet of flowers ??? You people are so out of touch of ground reality and live in your own universe.
Have I not made it clear enough why Pakistan was left with no other choise but to participate in WOT? You think if Immi bahi was in charge he would have been able to get away by just saying absolutely not to US demands at the time when US influence around the world was at peak?
And where did Army brats come from in this discussion? Can you find more relevant discussion to bring Army brats or is this your only line of defense when ever someone questions 15 years of PTI rule in KPK?





They will never be able to work it and make it look like Punjab, especially with ongoing terrorism, but they have minor things. Lots of small dams, bus network, police reform, they have a sehat card still running there and the Swat motorway was done in their tenure by PKHA too. Their police is DEFINITELY better than Punjab's.

you keep saying KPK police is better then Punjab, can you tell me what have to done to eliminate bachabazi from KPK that seems like has been normalized? Or is child abuse not among PTI's priority?


There is a partially completed Peshawar ring road and few underpass/flyover projects too.
Again this is minor at a provincial level but its a total myth that PTI has done nothing in KPK.

For 15 years rule, this is poor performance.

KPK's literacy rate has fallen since PTI took over. Combined with no meaningful development. This party has no vision.

KPK won't change until their people demand more from their leaders.

 

[flyingorca]

I am not interested in discussing PTI's political shortcomings with you until you first accept that the military needs to stay far away from politics. As long as you keep justifying general's unconstitutional behaviour it's pointless to talk about how PTI has fared so far. Whether they are good bad or mediocre they at least have the right. Tumhari Fauj ki kya right hay?

I don't like to bring in personal experience into this because it's the Internet and anyone can make things up but I've interacted with enough of these bloody jarnayls and colonels and captain major flana tamkana. They are all idiots with no business doing anything other than army stuff. They climb up in life too fast and get too hungry for the creature comforts that come with it.

And yes, maybe you are not aware but when you set up militant training camps and bring in drugs and guns and all sorts of cross border shenanigans then definitely, that province will suffer. Khair these are the blessings we have been receiving since Zia era, aaj ki baat nahi hay.

And let's not get into the bachabaazi stuff. You think nothing of that sort happens in Punjab boy? Forgotten the Kasur cases?

You actually do need to highlight PTI shortcomings without conditions because every citizen regardless of political affiliation should hold their own political party accountable otherwise their is no difference between PTI followers and brainwashed cultists.
I know since you do not have answers to 90% of my valid criticism of PTI and IK policies your safest bet is to just deflection by bringing in random Army topics.
Btw, I will stop supporting Army's involvement in politics if PTI specifically Imran Khan STOPS using Islam as a political tool to gain sympathy from public. Because IK knows PTI knows that inorder for Secular democratic government to survive with majority vote, it must be sugar coated with Islami touch.
Motivating soldiers on battlefield with Islam is different from implementing Secular, democratic rule under Islami touch. That is a deceitful tactics which the emotionally charged awaam needs to know.
A spoiled Army brat is 10 times better then a brain washed Imran Khan supporter who goes around spreading misinformation how Imran Khan is the last hope of Muslim ummah, IK will make Pakistan into Islamic country, vo Amrika kay agay nahi jhukay ga (while 90% of his tiger warriors are hiding there).

Btw, i know you people like to blame Army with this conspiracy that Army is behind dasadgardi but has it ever come across your mind that Army had the most stronghold over its people in 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s when dasadgardi did not even exist? Why would they need it now which is not even working for them.

 

[flyingorca]

KPK's literacy rate has fallen since PTI took over. Combined with no meaningful development. This party has no vision.

KPK won't change until their people demand more from their leaders.

Just want to correct one thing. KPK wont change until its people decide to change. The moment even a perfect leader decides to root out the ills of the society is when his downfall will start. PTI only vision is to put a lid on all the issues in society and get as much votes.

 

[Watandar]

It happened.

PTI founder Imran Khan shifted to Shifa International Hospital in Islamabad under tight security

PTI Information Secretary Sheikh Waqas Akram requests party supporters to maintain their distance from the hospital.

www.dawn.com

1st time in 3 years Imran Khan is not in solitary confinement.

 

[Mr X]

So happy to hear that. I hope he is taken care of… and hopefully moved to Bani Gala later in hope it end political victimisation against him.

He is clearly the biggest leader we have had and doesn’t matter what 5 or 50 people think on this forum, PTI remains the largest political party in Pakistan and would win election any day if allowed to contest freely

@ topic

I hope he is okay and hoping this news will restore peace in Pakistani politics