Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

The assertion that Pakistani missiles did some considerable damage aren't supported with satellite pics. So where did all the Fatah-1 / A2G ordinance PAF supposedly fire go? Missed and off the mark is the next assumption if all those ordinances didn't find their mark. Meanwhile we have videos/Satellite pics of Indian missiles hitting kirana hills and bases with pinpoint accuracy.

Many of the Indian assertions are not supported by pics, some but many are not

 

[Irfan Baloch]

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[Bratva]

Many of the Indian assertions are not supported by pics, some but many are not

My post scope is about what is verified and comes with photos/videos. The scope/impact of damage at our side is/was more than what we were able to inflict on India and majority of our ordinances didn't hit targets that they were supposed to hit. Like beas brahmos storage depo, Pathankot airbase etc. The guy in youtube said that indian airforce officers commended him that he destroyed ucav or else lot of assets on the airbase would 've been damaged. Imagine Pakistan army and airforce inability to destroy juicy targets which were close to border.

 

[Yasser76]

My post scope is about what is verified and comes with photos/videos. The scope/impact of damage at our side is/was more than what we were able to inflict on India and majority of our ordinances didn't hit targets that they were supposed to hit. Like beas brahmos storage depo, Pathankot airbase etc. The guy in youtube said that indian airforce officers commended him that he destroyed ucav or else lot of assets on the airbase would 've been damaged. Imagine Pakistan army and airforce inability to destroy juicy targets which were close to border.

Yeah, so guess I am not going to take the words of IAF officers commending IA officers on some BS Youtube channel, you drink the Indian Kool Aid dude

Pakistani claims need photo proof, Indian claims are on Youtube and thus trustworthy.

I call Bulls**t

 

[Bratva]

Yeah, so guess I am not going to take the words of IAF officers commending IA officers on some BS Youtube channel, you drink the Indian Kool Aid dude

Pakistani claims need photo proof, Indian claims are on Youtube and thus trustworthy.

I call Bulls**t

I don't know why are you getting passive aggressive about a post which is for specefic context and making illogical inferences.

The context of that discussion is Indian claims of not a single hit from Fatah-1 happened and all were intercepted.

The indians has consistently claimed that not a single Fatah-1 rocket landed on indian soil and all the missiles/drones were intercepted and per their claims lack of photos proved not a single fatah-1 landed in India. That video is for documentary purposes that when that discourse or claims are made, they can be shown from their own sources that Indian airforce was grounded and missiles did land in and near to their bases.

The rest of the things that Fatah-1 didnot hit hangars or any significant building is secondary point of the discussion.

 

[Bratva]

Man that's poor accuracy of the PAF missiles. This also puts in question the S400 kill if low speed glide bombs were this inaccurate, just imagine the CEP of CM400akg.
@Panzerkiel were we just showing capability on the 10th or the intent was to hit them. Apart from udhampur at every other airbases or site this was the case. Missiles fell 200-500 metres.
The second wave is a different case.

Let's not get emotional. You forgot Serbian president directly confirmed PAF CM-400 destroyed radars. CM-400AKG accuracy is superb aided with chinese satellite data.

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[AeronautIR]

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Would u like to add something on the Air to ground operations of PAF we've been so focused on A2A, rarely anything apart from S400 kill is talked about.

All such debates end at the same point that unless PAF can show satellite imagery, nothing was hit. The Barnala C2 node was hit with 16 deaths.

India has shown the satellite images only for optics. I have been asking for a shred of evidence to back their claims of 13 PAF aircraft destroyed, record of longest kill at more than 300 km, 2 C2 nodes destroyed in Murid and Nur Khan etc. Except Bholari, all those strikes did little damage with no operational or strategic significance, but I don't know why people are believing this nonsense that India has shown proof for all the claims.

Indians are still coping and I don't think we can get to any point in this debate. They are threatening about Sindoor 2.0, so let's see if they can do anything about it.

 

[Faani83]

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[TheThirdFaculty]

I don't know why are you getting passive aggressive about a post which is for specefic context and making illogical inferences.

The context of that discussion is Indian claims of not a single hit from Fatah-1 happened and all were intercepted.

The indians has consistently claimed that not a single Fatah-1 rocket landed on indian soil and all the missiles/drones were intercepted and per their claims lack of photos proved not a single fatah-1 landed in India. That video is for documentary purposes that when that discourse or claims are made, they can be shown from their own sources that Indian airforce was grounded and missiles did land in and near to their bases.

The rest of the things that Fatah-1 didnot hit hangars or any significant building is secondary point of the discussion.

I agree I think there was some damage but nothing significant I think the retaliation itself was muted from Pakistan’s side .

 

[TheThirdFaculty]

All such debates end at the same point that unless PAF can show satellite imagery, nothing was hit. The Barnala C2 node was hit with 16 deaths.

India has shown the satellite images only for optics. I have been asking for a shred of evidence to back their claims of 13 PAF aircraft destroyed, record of longest kill at more than 300 km, 2 C2 nodes destroyed in Murid and Nur Khan etc. Except Bholari, all those strikes did little damage with no operational or strategic significance, but I don't know why people are believing this nonsense that India has shown proof for all the claims.

Indians are still coping and I don't think we can get to any point in this debate. They are threatening about Sindoor 2.0, so let's see if they can do anything about it.

Where’s the evidence 16 people were killed on that attack on Bernala I agree to the wider point that minimal damage was done on both sides im of the opinion that the fatah 1 will be phased out that’s why multiple versions of fatah 3 4 and 5 have been introduced