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A stupid thread and with even stupider arguments.... Israel will never dare to attack Turkey , after Makkah alliance that never becomes never ever....as long as alliance holds Israel will not attack Saudi Arabia..... Pakistan is in a different league than Turkey and Saudi Arabia.... first , Israel has no direct conflict with Pakistan , Israel has no reason to go to war with Pakistan .... second , Israeli are not stupid and suicidal.... Israeli know what can be the worst case scenario in case of war with Pakistan.....this Makkah alliance is strictly for the protection of middle east ( east of Suez) ...
Yes , Pakistan may get some financial benefits and technology however it dwarfs in comparison to what Pakistan is giving to middle east.
A question: Is Turkey willing to go to war with Iran for the sake of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf?
 
Can you stop with your troll comments? You are clearly trying to antagonize. You want to go on another 3 month vacation?
What troll comments?!

I made an analysis,I gave my own opinion and you came and replied "cool story bro lol"

If anything,you're the one trying to antagonize and troll.
 
A question: Is Turkey willing to go to war with Iran for the sake of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf?

Idk about the gulf but Turkey is prepared to provide support for its treaty allies, and Saudi and Pakistan are treaty allies and Turkey will provide support in whatever element fits the situation and according to their needs.
 
What troll comments?!

I made an analysis,I gave my own opinion and you came and replied "cool story bro lol"

If anything,you're the one trying to antagonize and troll.

You talked about Turkey cowering to Israel. Why are you trying to antagonize?
 
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A question: Is Turkey willing to go to war with Iran for the sake of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf?
Again a fukin stupid question , there will be NO WAR between Saudi Arabia and Iran.... have you read the recent statement by Iranian president ? " It's time to end the war when you are militarily in a position of strength " .....Iran has thrown the towel , pretty soon Iran will be part of the socio-economic landscape of the wider middle east.....
 
You talked about Turkey cowering to Israel. Why are you trying to antagonize?
Because that's what you've been doing basically since 2010.

Gaza Flotilla,nothing
2020-2021 tensions,nothing

Let's say the above are not as important,ok? What about 2024-2026?

Gaza War
Israeli invasion of south Syria
Israeli bombardments of potential Turkish bases in Syria

Where was the Turkish Air Force? Where was the reply? Any reply?

For example,when something happens in the Aegean,even if a politician flies to a greek island,you rush to send F-16s,Phantoms or UAVs.

Some Ukrainian or Russian drone or USV goes stray,you rush to scramble.

When Israel literally goes against your interests and bombs potential air bases in northern Syria...you're absent. When they eradicate Palestinians,you're absent.

When like @Ali_Baba said,Israelis get oil from Azerbaijan through Turkey,you allow it.

For a country whose government,media AND online members here portray as a regional superpower or second largest NATO army,that's cowering against a tiny country like Israel.
 
Again a fukin stupid question , there will be NO WAR between Saudi Arabia and Iran.... have you read the recent statement by Iranian president ? " It's time to end the war when you are militarily in a position of strength " .....Iran has thrown the towel , pretty soon Iran will be part of the socio-economic landscape of the wider middle east.....
I don't know man...the Houthis do this and that,Trump says this one day,the next the opposite. Today Iran says they want a deal,tomorrow they deny they said it. The whole Gulf situation is full of incompetent leaders and big egos right now.
 
I don't know man...the Houthis do this and that,Trump says this one day,the next the opposite. Today Iran says they want a deal,tomorrow they deny they said it. The whole Gulf situation is full of incompetent leaders and big egos right now.
If you don't have the intellectual capacity to read between the lines and fathom the undercurrents then you shall not be commenting on such serious topics ...same goes for some other posters.... everyone is commenting on hypothesis.
 
If you don't have the intellectual capacity to read between the lines and fathom the undercurrents then you shall not be commenting on such serious topics ...same goes for some other posters.... everyone is commenting on hypothesis.
Ok mythbuster. Nobody goes to war nowhere. People will sign defence packs just for the hype and there will be peace and prosperity.
 
The point, and only point I am making is that the current Makkah Pact, is dead on arrival if either India or Israel decide to "test" the pact right now, this instance.... as none of the members has any spare capacity to give to the other members if they are attacked. Future plans are understood, but right now the execution is poorly though out.
The only grouping that works in the pact are Turkiye and Saudi, who have enough capability to take on Israel on in a combined manner, as they both face the same "enemy" etc.

Pakistan just needs the $$. The massive Chinese industry is solidly behind Pakistan but even with the Chinese discounted weapons sales to Pakistan, $$ is needed. Not only $$ is needed in case of a conflict but the ability to absorb billions of $$ losses to the economy which relies heavily on the Western trade/commerce.
The Saudis have the $$$ but are they really available to anyone, including to themselves, is questionable. Washington froze $300 billion of Russian assets. Saudis are even more vulnerable.
 
Because that's what you've been doing basically since 2010.

Gaza Flotilla,nothing
2020-2021 tensions,nothing

Let's say the above are not as important,ok? What about 2024-2026?

Gaza War
Israeli invasion of south Syria
Israeli bombardments of potential Turkish bases in Syria

Where was the Turkish Air Force? Where was the reply? Any reply?

For example,when something happens in the Aegean,even if a politician flies to a greek island,you rush to send F-16s,Phantoms or UAVs.

Some Ukrainian or Russian drone or USV goes stray,you rush to scramble.

When Israel literally goes against your interests and bombs potential air bases in northern Syria...you're absent. When they eradicate Palestinians,you're absent.

When like @Ali_Baba said,Israelis get oil from Azerbaijan through Turkey,you allow it.

For a country whose government,media AND online members here portray as a regional superpower or second largest NATO army,that's cowering against a tiny country like Israel.

Believe whatever you want Foinikas. lol

No one in Turkey is upset, none of Turkey's partners are upset with Turkey, so some ramblings of some greek trying to antagonize Turkey doesn't mean anything. Turkey will choose time and place if/when it decides to do something, and not be baited by its enemies.

You are begging for a Turkish and Israeli fight because you think it will be favorable to Greek interests.
 
Because that's what you've been doing basically since 2010.

Gaza Flotilla,nothing
2020-2021 tensions,nothing

Let's say the above are not as important,ok? What about 2024-2026?

Gaza War
Israeli invasion of south Syria
Israeli bombardments of potential Turkish bases in Syria

Where was the Turkish Air Force? Where was the reply? Any reply?

For example,when something happens in the Aegean,even if a politician flies to a greek island,you rush to send F-16s,Phantoms or UAVs.

Some Ukrainian or Russian drone or USV goes stray,you rush to scramble.

When Israel literally goes against your interests and bombs potential air bases in northern Syria...you're absent. When they eradicate Palestinians,you're absent.

When like @Ali_Baba said,Israelis get oil from Azerbaijan through Turkey,you allow it.

For a country whose government,media AND online members here portray as a regional superpower or second largest NATO army,that's cowering against a tiny country like Israel.



They (ZIOs) are edging to go to war with Turkey this is one way of drawing Turkey in to war by bombing Ankaras national interests Northern Syria without attacking a NATO country.
 
They (ZIOs) are edging to go to war with Turkey this is one way of drawing Turkey in to war by bombing Ankaras national interests Northern Syria without attacking a NATO country.

Our resident Greek here is desperate, the Long Term outlook favors Turkey both on the Israeli front and the Greek front. Both are desperate to disrupt that trajectory by having a conflict sooner rather than later, as both feel that its better to have a conflict now rather than later when the odds are worse. The Turks also understand this matter and are eager to not spoil long term trajectories that the enemy is desperate to disrupt.

Turkey is stronger today than it was 10 years ago or 15 years ago. And will be far stronger in 10 to 15 year from Today. The same cannot be said for the Greeks nor the Israel for various reasons, they may be weaker than today. So they would rather have a fight before than later, as the momentum favors Turkiye.
 

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