Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't know why you're comparing a nation of 90 million people to rag-tag militias like Hezbollah and Hamas. That's offensive.

Well, the rag-tag Hezbollah and Hamas don't give up against Israel, then there is no reason for Iran to give up with a much better stance.

 

[ShapurII]

The main pillars of the USD are the US technology and US military.

If these pillars no longer exist, then the USD gonna collapse for sure.

And as we say in Persian, if the aunt didn't have a penis, she would've been the uncle.

 

[ShapurII]

Well, the rag-tag Hezbollah and Hamas don't give up against Israel, then there is no reason for Iran to give up with a much better stance.

Those rag-tag militias are financed and armed by the IRGC. Who is going to finance or arm Iran?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

And as we say in Persian, if the aunt didn't have a penis, she would've been the uncle.

China will keep toppled the US in these domains.

Iran's duty is to win this asymmetric warfare against the US.

 

[ShapurII]

China will keep toppled the US in these domains.

Iran's duty is to win this asymmetric warfare against the US.

China is still behind the US in AI and semiconductors. It's certainly catching up and closing the gap, but it's not there yet.

And the US dominance is more than just technology. It's cultural as well. For example, billions of people have voluntarily paid money and learned English as a second language, even in countries that are anti-American. How many people are paying good money to get a language certificate in Mandarin, for example?

Then add American music industry, cinema, the internet, etc. The US dominance is much more than just technology. They also have Europe in their pocket and they have control over Arab energy resources, Canada and Venezuela too.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Those rag-tag militias are financed and armed by the IRGC. Who is going to finance or arm Iran?

At least China could be counted as a partial assistant for providing the satellite imagery and reconnaissance via those shell companies.

And China is still too prudent, and should have played a bigger role.

 

[Lulldapull]

Now the biggest problem is that the old man is threatening to nuke Iran if their military is kept getting depleted by the IRGC.

Iran should have possessed the nukes and ICBM long time ago, and it was the biggest strategic blunder of the former Iranian leader for not allowing Iran to have nukes.

Imagine with the current situation, Iran also possesses nukes and ICBM, it is the ultimate leverage to play itself into the level of the P5 nations.

Huh......Russia possesses both nukes and ICBM yet they taking it up the ass daily no?

Thurrd world colluddzz migrant logic is not goin cut it here no more!

If Russia getting busted daily with nukes/ ICBMs......then we need your logic to make sense no?

Thank you.

 

[ShapurII]

At least China could be counted as a partial assistant for providing the satellite imagery and reconnaissance via those shell companies.

And China is still too prudent, and should have played a bigger role.

There's no evidence of such assistance in military grade. Officially, the US, China and Iran all have denied that and from the evidence we see, Iran has shown extreme weakness and vulnerability in target acquisition and real-time tracking.

China just doesn't care about Iran that much. China thinks of the Iran war as a curiosity on the other side of the world that does not concern them that much, and it's an annoyance to their economic growth and relations with the US and Arabs.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China is still behind the US in AI and semiconductors. It's certainly catching up and closing the gap, but it's not there yet.

And the US dominance is more than just technology. It's cultural as well. For example, billions of people have voluntarily paid money and learned English as a second language, even in countries that are anti-American. How many people are paying good money to get a language certificate in Mandarin, for example?

Then add American music industry, cinema, the internet, etc. The US dominance is much more than just technology. They also have Europe in their pocket and they have control over Arab energy resources, Canada and Venezuela too.

Well, their overall frontier model lead could be less than 1 month now despite the AI chip leverage.

Because they are forcing the entire western alliance to ban the EUV lithography sale to China, and in order to beat the US in semiconductor, China has no choice but to build its own EUV lithography.

The most ironic thing is that the US has no capability to build an EUV lithography machine by themselves.

One on one, they are no match to China.



And they can keep forcing their allies and other nations to jump aboard the anti-China wagon, but they are starting to make other nations' live unlivable, how long this anti-China alliance to be sustained?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Huh......Russia possesses both nukes and ICBM yet they taking it up the ass daily no?

Thurrd world colluddzz migrant logic is not goin cut it here no more!

If Russia getting busted daily with nukes/ ICBMs......then we need your logic to make sense no?

Thank you.

Russia got many nukes and ICBM, and the US would not think to nuke them just because of the military failure.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

There's no evidence of such assistance in military grade. Officially, the US, China and Iran all have denied that and from the evidence we see, Iran has shown extreme weakness and vulnerability in target acquisition and real-time tracking.

China just doesn't care about Iran that much. China thinks of the Iran war as a curiosity on the other side of the world that does not concern them that much, and it's an annoyance to their economic growth and relations with the US and Arabs.

It is civilian, but China's civilian counterpart can also provide very clear imagery and accuracy.

The military and civilization grade can be very blurred via those shell companies.

BTW, the US still refuses to believe that their military bases could be targeted with so many pinpoint attacks without China's assistance, even the civilian satellite imagery could make a significant difference.

 

[ShapurII]

Well, their overall frontier model lead could be less than 1 month now despite the AI chip leverage.

Because they are forcing the entire western alliance to ban the EUV lithography sale to China, and in order to beat the US in semiconductor, China has no choice but to build its own EUV lithography.

The most ironic thing is that the US has no capability to build an EUV lithography machine by themselves.

The US has created a network of semiconductor facilities around the world in the US, Israel, Taiwan, the Netherlands, etc. They all operate under the US licensure. And Trump is increasing the number of FABs in the US. They aren't going to fall behind in one month or so. But even if so, China might be able to produce the best products, but what will happen when it cannot sell them to large markets in the US or Europe?

Honestly, I think Gemini and Anthropic are leading AI at the moment. I have never seen a model perform as well as Claude on large datasets.

And they can keep forcing their allies and other nations to jump aboard the anti-China wagon, but they are starting to make other nations' live unlivable, how long this anti-China alliance to be sustained?

Unfortunately, these countries follow the US voluntarily as well. Europe knows it is irrelevant without the US and they're not going to give up on the US any time soon as they believe the US to be the lesser of the two evils. It's a combination of racism and Judeo-Christian principles.

 

[ShapurII]

It is civilian, but China's civilian counterpart can also provide very clear imagery and accuracy.

The military and civilization grade can be very blurred via those shell companies.

BTW, the US still refuses to believe that their military bases could be targeted with so many pinpoint attacks without China's assistance, even the civilian satellite imagery could make a significant difference.

Civilian satellite images are usually restricted to 25-30cm spatial resolution and 10-15 minute time resolution. That's not sufficient for real-time tracking, particularly for objects that could displace kilometers in 10-15 minutes.

Yes, Iran can target static targets with precision, but that isn't enough.

 

[MNZGamerX]

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The US has created a network of semiconductor facilities around the world in the US, Israel, Taiwan, the Netherlands, etc. They all operate under the US licensure. And Trump is increasing the number of FABs in the US. They aren't going to fall behind in one month or so. But even if so, China might be able to produce the best products, but what will happen when it cannot sell them to large markets in the US or Europe?

Honestly, I think Gemini and Anthropic are leading AI at the moment. I have never seen a model perform as well as Claude on large datasets.


Unfortunately, these countries follow the US voluntarily as well. Europe knows it is irrelevant without the US and they're not going to give up on the US any time soon as they believe the US to be the lesser two evils. It's a combination of racism and Judeo-Christian principles.

Gemini is lagging behind, and no longer be considered as a first tier competitor.

China is mainly competing against Anthropic and OpenAI.

And China is dominating in ai video model like the Seedance 2.5.




And China is building DUV and EUV for its own internal consumption, because China is still the largest consumer market of chips.

The US wants to prevent China to acquire the best AI chips by banning the EUV lithography machine.

When China starts to mass produce the EUV lithography machine, the US day as the frontrunner of the AI chips will be numbered.