Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[tsunset]

didn't you say iran would respond last night

and nobody should care about being right or wrong here, we should just want to see IRI do what is best for iran

I said Iran will respond either tonight or in 3 days and i reiterate:

- Iran will retaliate, not with words, but violence

- This will not be random targets such as Kurdish businessmen or whatever "secret base", this will also not happen inside Iraq nor Syria

- There will be material damage and fatalities

- It will use big ordnance

So saturday night, if nothing happens, i will be humiliated and exposed for life on this forum, screenshot this

 

[Immortals]

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Should be a stark reminder of how little of a damn the international community gives about Iran even when all international law has been breached. No decency extended to the Iranians. Imagine if this happened to Japan or France or Germany.

Some here seem to think that the world has a favorable view of Iran vs Israel. Quite the opposite.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Should be a stark reminder of how little of a damn the international community gives about Iran even when all international law has been breached. No decency extended to the Iranians. Imagine if this happened to Japan or France or Germany.

Some here seem to think that the world has a favorable view of Iran vs Israel. Quite the opposite.

not new

when Saddam used German chemical weapons against Iranians with US assistance the UNSC blamed Iran

 

[tsunset]

EDIT @Champion

I didn't saw that you were BlueInGreen brother because it got removed from the message

I have nothing against you and we are just having the same thoughts, don't think i am not emotional too, and i am not a partisan of long term retaliation or whatever the government said

Sorry for this, i never had anything against you neither in the old PDF, i thought this was someone flexing about how long and how much "truth" he said in the old PDF

I removed all the messages from this discussion

 

[mangekyo]

the demographic threat is one of their two biggest threats. that's why they want to remove them into Egypt and Jordan and keep them strictly separated, even emboldening Hamas in Gaza and refusing to allow their PA servants into Gaza

the other is an Iran with nuclear weapons

Nukes would give us more free room to respond to attacks. But they know we would never nuke them. And they have nuclear deterrence themselves. The real threat is the demographic threat. In the long game, Irans government might collapse, Hezbollah might collapse. Hamas might collapse. But the Palestinians aren't going anywhere. Israels survival hinges on getting rid of the Palestinians completely.

 

[Champion]

EDIT @Champion

I didn't saw that you were BlueInGreen brother because it got removed from the message

I have nothing against you and we are just having the same thoughts, don't think i am not emotional too, and i am not a partisan of long term retaliation or whatever the government said

Sorry for this, i never had anything against you neither in the old PDF, i thought this was someone flexing about how long and how much "truth" he said in the old PDF

I removed all the messages from this discussion

My apologies as well Tsunet... This recent attack has been quite difficult to say the least and I've been somewhat emotionally compromised by it.

It's hard to keep a level-head given what has happened. I deleted my posts as well brother, no harm no foul!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Nukes would give us more free room to respond to attacks. But they know we would never nuke them. And they have nuclear deterrence themselves. The real threat is the demographic threat. In the long game, Irans government might collapse, Hezbollah might collapse. Hamas might collapse. But the Palestinians aren't going anywhere. Israels survival hinges on getting rid of the Palestinians completely.

more room to respond to attacks is exactly the game changer and means the deterrence equation totally changes since nukes are removed from the equation

 

[mangekyo]

more room to respond to attacks is exactly the game changer and means the deterrence equation totally changes since nukes are removed from the equation

I agree, but the real threat is always going to be the demographic one. In a situation where Israel were to fall, there is still a limit to how much even a nuclear Iran could be involved. We would still have to consider they might nuke us as retaliation if they felt we were the reason for their downfall. And I dont even doubt for a second that they would nuke us if they felt that way.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I agree, but the real threat is always going to be the demographic one. In a situation where Israel were to fall, there is still a limit to how much even a nuclear Iran could be involved. We would still have to consider they might nuke us as retaliation if they felt we were the reason for their downfall. And I dont even doubt for a second that they would nuke us if they felt that way.

in the scenario they are dying because of demographic issues (which I don't think makes sense, this 'death' means a one state solution where Jews are not a majority, not the end of Jews in Palestine or something), if they are in that scenario and considering nuking Iran I would rather Iran has nukes than not

 

[Champion]

I agree, but the real threat is always going to be the demographic one. In a situation where Israel were to fall, there is still a limit to how much even a nuclear Iran could be involved. We would still have to consider they might nuke us as retaliation if they felt we were the reason for their downfall. And I dont even doubt for a second that they would nuke us if they felt that way.

Agreed, this is has been a fear of mine as well since Iranian actions still have had a significant impact on Israel's regional security as well as standing.

Nothing is beneath a Zionist. They're committing genocide, so what's detonating a few nukes going to matter to them?

 

[mangekyo]

in the scenario they are dying because of demographic issues (which I don't think makes sense, this 'death' means a one state solution where Jews are not a majority, not the end of Jews in Palestine or something), if they are in that scenario and considering nuking Iran I would rather Iran has nukes than not

I see your point. But I dont think they will ever accept that. It's a zionist state, or no state at all. Either I am overestimating their cruelty, or you are underestimating it. But judging from how they have acted in the past and this present. Their cruelty has no limits.

 

[mangekyo]

Nothing is beneath a Zionist. They're committing genocide, so what's detonating a few nukes going to matter to them?

Thats exactly my point. They are deliberately killing babies and mocking them later by posing in front of their cribs and toys.

 

[Champion]

Thats exactly my point. They are deliberately killing babies and mocking them later by posing in front of their cribs and toys.

Calling them animals doesn't even begin to describe their uniquely inhumane cruelty. It's almost as if they draw their savagery from another plane of existence altogether. Very scary, surreal to be honest.

Nonetheless you and Persian Gulf made great comments on the pros/cons of Iran acquiring nuclear weaponry. My own thoughts are that Iran should now (more than ever) be compelled to acquire them given what we've seen Israel commit in Gaza. That and Trump is most likely coming back so... that also isn't good.

Iranian people should be afforded safety in the face of such barbarity and nukes are a sure fire way of achieving that end (i hope...).

 

[Immortals]

not new

when Saddam used German chemical weapons against Iranians with US assistance the UNSC blamed Iran

That was 1979, this is 2024.

Some here think Iran has support on world stage after Israel violations of international law. They think Israel is weakened on global stage and Iran shouldn’t rock the boat and turn “public opinion” against Iran again.

None of this can be further from the truth.

Israel could launch missiles at an Iranian school because IRGC supplied pencils to them…..and still they would suffer ZERO repercussions.

Meanwhile Canada and others tried to get Iran charged at International Court for war crimes because of the 2020 TOR-M1 ACCIDENT that Iran did against ITS OWN CITIZENS!

 

[Persian Gulf]

That was 1979, this is 2024.

Some here think Iran has support on world stage after Israel violations of international law. They think Israel is weakened on global stage and Iran shouldn’t rock the boat and turn “public opinion” against Iran again.

None of this can be further from the truth.

Israel could launch missiles at an Iranian school because IRGC supplied pencils to them…..and still they would suffer ZERO repercussions.

Meanwhile Canada and others tried to get Iran charged at International Court for war crimes because of the 2020 TOR-M1 ACCIDENT that Iran did against ITS OWN CITIZENS!

that was more like 1986-88

the West sees Israelis as part of their crowd and Iranians as hostile outsiders so naturally they will always protect their own and view Iranian lives as worthless

it is upon us to change this equation