India demolish Pakistan 19-0 to storm into Women’s Hockey Junior Asia Cup semi-finals

This is a sad state of affairs for our women. This goes to show how behind Pakistani women are in all walks of life. Even in South Asia, our women are dead last in any form of sport. The men's sport is in a rough place, but women's is in a dismal place.

Lack of mobility, opportunities, repressive culture, male chauvinism, all these things exacerbate the problems. I don't think it would be unfair for me to say that our women are probably the most disadvantaged group of females in the entire world (and countless studies show this). There are absolute examples of brilliance among them when given the opportunity, but our rural, backwards culture inhibits their ability to flourish on the world stage.

Outside of Pakistan, these very same women have excelled in every walk of life, but unfortunately our own country sets them back the most.
 
This is a sad state of affairs for our women. This goes to show how behind Pakistani women are in all walks of life. Even in South Asia, our women are dead last in any form of sport. The men's sport is in a rough place, but women's is in a dismal place.

Lack of mobility, opportunities, repressive culture, male chauvinism, all these things exacerbate the problems. I don't think it would be unfair for me to say that our women are probably the most disadvantaged group of females in the entire world (and countless studies show this). There are absolute examples of brilliance among them when given the opportunity, but our rural, backwards culture inhibits their ability to flourish on the world stage.

Outside of Pakistan, these very same women have excelled in every walk of life, but unfortunately our own country sets them back the most.

Backward Pakistani mullah and Pakistani males scared of questioning those mullahs is the very reason we look down upon women who want to play and enjoy sports.

Our children are not properly taught about Mother Khadeeja, warrior women companions of Rehmat ul lil Alimeen, role of Muslim women in the battle of Yarmouk and many others ... all we only know and discuss is what could be the proper hijab.
 
So expecting a gold medal at the next olympics ? Or is it going to be another 0 gold while watching america and china rack up over 40 golds each
 
Womens sports is an after thought in Pakistan. I wonder if this womens hockey team has any proper facilities, coaches or practice sessions ?

It is quite possible officials simply picked girls out of school hockey teams and sent them abroad for this tournament. Their parents may be connected people who tagged along with the officials and players for a nice fully paid tourist visit abroad.
 
Outside of Pakistan, these very same women have excelled in every walk of life, but unfortunately our own country sets them back the most.
Excelled in sports??? Garbage.

Name me ONE SINGLE PAKISTANI DIASPORA sportswoman of any remote significance (there's a bowler for Scotland I believe but ..come on...anyone significant like Isa Guha for example?). Indian sportswomen, although some of them clearly have an extra Y chromosome or two, are, admittedly, better than Pakistani sportswomen. We just never bothered emphasising sports to our females, both at home AND in diaspora communities.

It has never been considered to be important, which I agree with personally.
 
Nobody celebrates defeating Pakistan in sports any longer. Those days are gone.
The focus in India now is not just on defeating Pakistan, but on defeating Pakistan by a huge margin. what the Indian women’s cricket team did by bowling Pakistan out for 55 runs. Indians now want to see a similar level of dominance from the men’s team.

The rivalry is still very much alive, in fact, it may be stronger than ever, but the goals have changed.
 
The focus in India now is not just on defeating Pakistan, but on defeating Pakistan by a huge margin. what the Indian women’s cricket team did by bowling Pakistan out for 55 runs. Indians now want to see a similar level of dominance from the men’s team.

The rivalry is still very much alive, in fact, it may be stronger than ever, but the goals have changed.
Yes. We are aware of this new reality.

Goals for Indian sports teams suddenly changed on 9-10th May 2025.
 
Yes. We are aware of this new reality.

Goals for Indian sports teams suddenly changed on 9-10th May 2025.
What changed is that Pakistan seems determined to declare victory regardless of the scoreboard, whether it’s Operation Sindoor or cricket. So perhaps Indian fans now want the margins to be so overwhelming that even Pakistan’s propaganda machine runs out of numbers to invent.
 
What changed is that Pakistan seems determined to declare victory regardless of the scoreboard, whether it’s Operation Sindoor or cricket. So perhaps Indian fans now want the margins to be so overwhelming that even Pakistan’s propaganda machine runs out of numbers to invent.
Ma nigga.... we don't care who beats us at what sport as long as it is played in the spirit of sportsmanship and gentility. I too used to enjoy Ind-Pak contests for what they were.

But alas, you cannot separate war from sport. So be it. I'd happily lose every sports fixture on every pitch as long as we consistently down your jets and slaughter or capture anyone who steps across the border.
 
Womens sports is an after thought in Pakistan. I wonder if this womens hockey team has any proper facilities, coaches or practice sessions ?

It is quite possible officials simply picked girls out of school hockey teams and sent them abroad for this tournament. Their parents may be connected people who tagged along with the officials and players for a nice fully paid tourist visit abroad.

They don't invest in their people. The Pakistani state and its defenders offer little value. In Pakistan, there is no concept of human resources. People are treated as a burden.

How can a population prosper when the state fails to invest in basic well being, education and healthcare? The primary reason so many Pakistanis seek to emigrate is simple, a total lack of opportunity.

National achievements like sports mean little when individuals lack the basic means to sustain themselves.
 
It is hard to take the outrage over sports losses seriously in a country that neglects its most precious asset.

These stats should make every single Pakistani hang their head in shame:

Pakistan faces severe crises in both child health (stunting) and access to basic education, ranking among the highest globally in both categories.

Out-of-School Children

Pakistan has the second-highest number of out-of-school children in the world, behind only Nigeria.

Total Count: An estimated 25.1 million children aged 5–16 are not attending school, which accounts for roughly 35% of the entire school-age population.

Gender Disparity: Out-of-school rates remain higher for girls. Approximately 49% of girls aged 5–16 are out of school compared to around 40% of boys.

Regional Breakdown (Provinces):

Balochistan: Highest percentage—69% of children (~3.5 million) are out of school.

Sindh: 44% out of school (~7.4 million children).

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa: 34% out of school (~4.5 million children).

Punjab: 27% out of school (~9.7 million children, representing the largest absolute number).

Islamabad Capital Territory: 15% out of school (~90,000 children).

Childhood Stunting (Malnutrition)

Pakistan has the third-highest proportion of stunted children globally (after Afghanistan in South Asia).

National Rate: Approximately 40% of children under the age of five suffer from chronic malnutrition leading to stunting.

Economic & Developmental Cost: Malnutrition and stunting cost Pakistan's economy an estimated $17 billion annually due to lost cognitive potential, lower educational attainment, and reduced adult workplace productivity.

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Who cares about losing or winning in any sports when your future is dying.
 
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Some more beautiful stats for our esteemed members:

Global Gender Gap Index: Ranks 148th out of 148 countries (World Economic Forum), placing it dead last globally in overall parity across economic, health, educational, and political metrics.

Human Capital Index: Ranks 161st out of 191 countries on the UN Human Development Index (HDI), trailing behind almost all of South Asia.

Environment & Quality of Life

Air Quality & Pollution: Consistently ranks among the top 3 worst countries for air pollution, with major cities like Lahore regularly recording the most toxic Air Quality Index (AQI) levels globally.

Environmental Performance Index: Ranks 176th out of 180 countries, reflecting extreme vulnerability to climate disasters alongside poor waste and water management.

Governance & Rule of Law

Corruption Perceptions Index: Ranks 140th out of 180 countries (Transparency International).

Rule of Law Index: Ranks 129th out of 142 countries (World Justice Project), scoring particularly low on fundamental rights and civil justice.

Public Health & Basic Needs

Child Stunting: Over 40% of children under the age of 5 suffer from chronic malnutrition and stunting.

Global Hunger Index: Categorized in the "Serious" hunger category, ranking 109th out of 127 nations.

Poverty & Basic Needs

Poverty Headcount: The World Bank estimates that over 40% of Pakistan’s population lives below the lower-middle-income poverty line ($3.65/day), leaving nearly 95 million people unable to meet basic daily needs.

Extreme Regional Inequality: In rural districts like Khuzdar or Washuk in Balochistan, the multi-dimensional poverty rate exceeds 70%, compared to under 4% in urban centers like Islamabad.

Child Survival & Health Infrastructure
Infant & Neonatal Mortality: Pakistan consistently records some of the highest newborn mortality rates in the world.

Approximately 56 out of every 1,000 live births do not survive past their fifth birthday.

Roughly 40% of all under-five deaths occur within the first 28 days of life, largely due to preventable causes like sepsis, birth asphyxia, and prematurity combined with a lack of basic maternal healthcare.

Clean Water & Sanitation: Over 53,000 children under five die in Pakistan every year from diarrhea and related waterborne illnesses caused by contaminated drinking water and inadequate sanitation.

Child Labor & Vulnerability

Child Workers: Estimates indicate that over 3.3 million children are engaged in child labor across Pakistan. Many work in high-risk environments, including brick kilns, agriculture, auto repair shops, and domestic work, often to help their families survive extreme inflation and debt bondage.

Child Marriage: Approximately 18% of girls in Pakistan are married before the age of 18, which strongly correlates with early pregnancy, severe maternal health complications, and high dropout rates from secondary education.

Climate Vulnerability Impact
Displacement & Disruption: The catastrophic 2022 floods damaged or destroyed over 27,000 schools and displaced millions of families, worsening both the out-of-school and stunting rates. Millions of children in flood-affected districts still face severe food insecurity and disrupted access to primary healthcare.

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Who should give two shits about sports in Pakistan. How do you expect athletes to perform? Should sports even be a priority in a country like Pakistan?
 
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Guys, please don’t celebrate India’s sporting wins against Pakistan, our Pakistani friends don’t like it. 😂 We’re guests here, after all, and should respect our hosts feelings. Clearly, the Indian team missed the etiquette briefing all 19 times.
India deserved the victory, only weak and cry babies complain.
 
Ma nigga.... we don't care who beats us at what sport as long as it is played in the spirit of sportsmanship and gentility. I too used to enjoy Ind-Pak contests for what they were.

But alas, you cannot separate war from sport. So be it. I'd happily lose every sports fixture on every pitch as long as we consistently down your jets and slaughter or capture anyone who steps across the border.
You can’t erase the scoreboard whenever you lose and then redraw the battlefield, move the goalposts, and declare yourself victorious. At some point, even a self-proclaimed victory needs an enemy who actually lost.
 

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