Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Owaiz]

Numerous Saudi officials have said recognition is off the table rakz.

Looks like you don't understand the implication of an answer to a question about a hypothetical scenario.

 

[Owaiz]

 

[r3alist]

Looks like you don't understand the implication of an answer to a question about a hypothetical scenario.

Because it's pointless.


Rakz, You talk like Gaza has not changed anything

I wonder why

 

[Owaiz]

It is quite instructive to compare the flowery sycophantic language used by the PMO to the matter of fact Saudi readout

HRH the Crown Prince, Pakistani Prime Minister Discuss Regional De-escalation; Islamabad Condemns Houthi Attacks

Jeddah, September 13, 2026, SPA -- His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Crown Prince and Prime Minister, received a phone call today from Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif, with whom he discussed regional developments and...

www.spa.gov.sa

 

[r3alist]

It is quite instructive to compare the flowery sycophantic language used by the PMO to the matter of fact Saudi readout

HRH the Crown Prince, Pakistani Prime Minister Discuss Regional De-escalation; Islamabad Condemns Houthi Attacks

Jeddah, September 13, 2026, SPA -- His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Crown Prince and Prime Minister, received a phone call today from Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif, with whom he discussed regional developments and...

www.spa.gov.sa

No it's not instructive

You are trying too hard

 

[Owaiz]

Because it's pointless.


Rakz, You talk like Gaza has not changed anything

I wonder why

No idea wtf Rakz is, but I literally said a few posts ago that Netanyahu completely derailed the possibility of MBS signing the Abraham Accord and it won't be signed while he stays in power.

 

[Owaiz]

No it's not instructive

Certainly not to an idiot who is incapable of learning anything.

 

[r3alist]

Certainly not to an idiot who is incapable of learning anything.

You have nothing anyone really wants to hear.

From what I can tell

 

[Yasser76]

Certainly not to an idiot who is incapable of learning anything.

You rate as one of the biggest idiots on here and everyone knows who you are Vakesh...

 

[The SC]

This article is written from a very superficial perspective. Maybe everything looks simple from Brazil, but the reality is much more complex. In fact, even the US and Israel are not on the same page; their priorities are different. We know that Zionists have a lot of influence over the US, but they don't have 100% control.

Turkey has been trying to fix its relations with the US for a long time. Right now, it cannot buy any military vehicles because it is under CAATSA sanctions. We are trying to solve this problem by handing over the S-400s.

Israel is uncomfortable with the Turkish presence in Syria. Israeli officials say at every opportunity that the Turkish threat is more dangerous for Israel than Iran. On the other hand, the Turkish president states at every opportunity that Israel is committing genocide, trying to change global perception this way.

Meanwhile, the US is thinking about leaving the region. Maybe in 10 to 15 years, they will have left completely. The US plan is to make peace between regional countries and Israel, but we will see how possible that is. In the end, it seems like Turkey and Israel will face off, but since we are still dependent on the US for engines, we are trying to manage the process for now.

This article is written from ignorance..

 

[Mobius]

 

[Watandar]

 

[TAC]

Pakistan will nuke Israel if it needs to though as part of the Saudi bilateral deal.

Too many people seem to be missing the point, arguing for and against Pakistan nuking xyx in defence of SA/Turkey.
The actual point is that if any country desires to invade SA/Turkey in an all out war (not a couple of drones)which seeks to dismember/ take and keep territory (Greater Israel anyone?) they have to now factor in that under such dire exponential national threat while both SA/Turkey do not have nuclear weapons of their, they are defence treaty partner of a country that does. That is a big extra dynamic to think about for even a hostile country with nuclear weapons like Israel. That is the effect of this treaty. Those mocking why Turkey / Pakistan haven’t joined the Yemen war based on this pact iether lack understanding or are butthurt over this pact to start with. In some cases maybe both.

 

[Watandar]

Too many people seem to be missing the point, arguing for and against Pakistan nuking xyx in defence of SA/Turkey.
The actual point is that if any country desires to invade SA/Turkey in an all out war (not a couple of drones)which seeks to dismember/ take and keep territory (Greater Israel anyone?) they have to now factor in that under such dire exponential national threat while both SA/Turkey do not have nuclear weapons of their, they are defence treaty partner of a country that does. That is a big extra dynamic to think about for even a hostile country with nuclear weapons like Israel. That is the effect of this treaty. Those mocking why Turkey / Pakistan haven’t joined the Yemen war based on this pact iether lack understanding or are butthurt over this pact to start with. In some cases maybe both.

Yes we are still living in WW2 where huge armies are mobilized for major land campaigns. This pact sounds great for that era.

 

[retaxis]

Too many people seem to be missing the point, arguing for and against Pakistan nuking xyx in defence of SA/Turkey.
The actual point is that if any country desires to invade SA/Turkey in an all out war (not a couple of drones)which seeks to dismember/ take and keep territory (Greater Israel anyone?) they have to now factor in that under such dire exponential national threat while both SA/Turkey do not have nuclear weapons of their, they are defence treaty partner of a country that does. That is a big extra dynamic to think about for even a hostile country with nuclear weapons like Israel. That is the effect of this treaty. Those mocking why Turkey / Pakistan haven’t joined the Yemen war based on this pact iether lack understanding or are butthurt over this pact to start with. In some cases maybe both.

Israel is not invading Turkey or Saudi, those two are already american allies. Only time this pact will be really tested in potential land campaign would be India invading pakistan and i wouldn't bet money on Saudi or Turks sending troops.

Even non allies like Ukraine gets plenty of support from NATO without alliance so an ally needs to go the extra mile. Not sure if Saudi or Turkey will go extra mile but thats probably the main way this alliance gets tested.