Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Starlord]

People will do anything rather than use logic.
People do throw companions under the bus on much more trivial matters - passing judgements on them 1500 years later.
People put their current leaders under a bus as if somehow everyone who sits in power is capable of "Kun" once an idea comes to mind.

People will find all sorts of excuses to actually plan out changes they want to see in their state and government because at the end, it is NOT ABOUT THAT CHANGE being impossible but that the effort associated with it is boring, tedious and requires thoughts that are best reserved for other activities.

The problem isnt that the Makkah alliance is DoA because of these events or that Riyadh would rather fight Iran than Israel - the problem is we have opinions from within bubbles that assume that everyone else is capable of the best - principle decisions everywhere while they themselves are excused of it.

I was watching Hamid Mir show and the retired General on the show made a good point that for KSA is still in control of situation, and they would not want to look weak infront of its people and world, with few drones/BM hitting and they run to Alliance for help. If they did than it sends the wrong message to internal and external audience and its a good point, how long KSA can keep this is anyones guess.

The most noise you hear are from people who belong to a certain sect, despite many here already show from historical context that this is not about religion, or Palestinians or even sectarianism but somehow people are hell bent on making it a sectarian issue, not that its not playing a role in this conflict but its mostly about expanding one's country influence over the region and for that they use religion, Sectarianism, and even Palestinians/70k dead Gazan's, which is as shameful as it can get.

Those people you will see here trying to make arguments over hitting mecca or its surrounding buildings were the loudest voices when Gazan's were pleading to the world that Israel is commiting a genocide and no one wants to believe them, and everything is either justified by "Khamas" or "Israel's right to exists".

 

[Oscar]

The other option was not to stick our nose into other’s bhole….
Secondly, coming back to topic its hard for you to understand what Saudis been doing this for and more importantly who is beneficiary….

What are the houthis doing what they are for?
The Saudis basically led to their rise due to their attempts to control tribes and push their brand of interpretation.

The Iranians saw an opportunity and seized it fairly late - but the Saudis kind of created this monster on their own because their puppet was a corrupt individual.

 

[Abdul q]

What are the houthis doing what they are for?
The Saudis basically led to their rise due to their attempts to control tribes and push their brand of interpretation.

The Iranians saw an opportunity and seized it fairly late - but the Saudis kind of created this monster on their own because their puppet was a corrupt individual.

Agree with this that’s why I want regime change in KSA….

 

[wangdefa]

I do not see the significance of the alliance treaty; if two other countries go to war in the future, Saudi Arabia will not intervene. Such a clause is merely a formality.
Promotion outweighs actual action.

 

[hasn2009]

So the muslims in question - have not been violent against muslims as well?
Just confirming that is known as a fact that this X poster(whoever he is) could even testify on Qayamah for?

In 2013 the Houhis massacring people at Dammaj were not muslims?
Them cutting people down on the road were not muslims?
No one is giving Riyadh a clean check but this is a proxy war using the people of Yemen - lets not go into sensationalist ideals because somehow political anger is now combined with sectarian alignment with Iran.

Same way, people should apply this aimless anger at their Prophet (صَلَّى ٱللَّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ) who is hopefully more revered and exalted in the eyes of certain muslims than Khomeni I hope. After the conquest of Makkah he went for Taif - but found it well protected and likely would have taken severe losses with his current forces so instead of losing them(to quote this stupid X post "lift a pinky") he chose to not engage at that time and eventually he had Taif so isolated they walked in for a deal.

Once again, the MOST PRINCIPLED HUMAN BEING ON EARTH FOR WHOM ANGELS FIGHT - chose not to create needless losses.

That doesnt mean the GCC leadership isnt compromised by this world and zionist plays of money and power, nor does it mean Pakistanis are not.. nor does it mean the Mullahs in Iran dont have their own interests including monetary.

It means, you are given examples of knowing when and where to employ military strength and how to build it up. And if you suspect your leaders are on the payroll of an outside power and all you can do is talk about it - sucks to be you - not them.

I get what you are saying, no one is saint in this conflict, everyone has done their share of bad.

But my point is, we know Israel/US are the worst enemy of the muslims, and we also know how close Saudis are to US/Israel, only this argument is enough for people to pick their sides.

And we can't conflate House of Saud with Mecca/Medina. Saudis are selfishly using the name of Mecca for their own benefits.
They really don't care about the sanctity of the holy mosques. If they did, they would never have sided with Israel/USA on Abraham accords to practically give away the Al-Aqsa, and the lives of Palestinian people, yesterday they gave away Al-aqsa to save their kingdoms, tomorrow they will give away Kaaba to save their palaces.

And, Saudis have big role in powering the US military via petro-dollar which killed millions of muslims around. Ansaarallah have done bad too, though nothing in comparison to what Saudis did to Yemen, they killed around half a million Yemenis, and even till today they have a blockade of Yemen which results in the killing of Yemeni civilians, Yemenis reserves the right to fight against the blockade.

Better solution to this problem is to accept the rights of Yemeni people, and help them feed their population rather than dragging Pakistan into this conflict which will only result in more sectarian divide in Pakistan and around the world.
Also militarily it will put Pakistan against Yemen which didnt even shake when faced with the collation of Arabs and Israel+USA bombing them for more than a decade.
And in future we may say Ansaarallah launching missiles at Tel-aviv and Karachi at same time.