Any attempt to divert Pakistan’s water to be treated as act of war, India ‘must make no mistake about it’: PM at UNGA

[Feroze]

In the thread below, I debated another member a year ago on this subject, and Pakistan fundamentally comes out worse.

Thread 'Extreme poverty in India drops to 5.3% in 2022-23 from 27.1% in 2011-12, reveals World Bank data'

Jun 9, 2025

Extreme poverty in India drops to 5.3% in 2022-23 from 27.1% in 2011-12, reveals World Bank data​

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Total number of people living in extreme poverty in India fell from 344.47 million in 2011-12 to 75.24 million in 2022-23. (Representational photo: Pixabay)
In a remarkable shift over the last decade, India’s extreme poverty rate has declined dramatically—from 27.1% in 2011-12 to 5.3% in 2022-23, according to latest...

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Perhaps. But India has more poverty than Pakistan does.

 

[PakFactor]

Perhaps. But India has more poverty than Pakistan does.

Go through that link, and you'll understand that, in a population comparison, if India were to scale down to Pakistan's population levels, or Pakistan were to scale up to India's population levels, Pakistan would still have higher poverty levels.

 

[Feroze]

Go through that link, and you'll understand that, in a population comparison, if India were to scale down to Pakistan's population levels, or Pakistan were to scale up to India's population levels, Pakistan would still have higher poverty levels.

Yes by percentage.

However in absolute numbers, India has more poverty. That is where I am right.

Yes sadly, the situation in Pakistan is not very good. That is why there is a big rush to help Pakistan out.

 

[PakFactor]

Yes by percentage.

However in absolute numbers, India has more poverty. That is where I am right.

Yes sadly, the situation in Pakistan is not very good. That is why there is a big rush to help Pakistan out.

That's to be given considering the large population India has, but overall, it's a better success story than the shit basket to its west.

Nobody will help Pakistan out (and there is no big rush) if the country itself can't help itself. Rather, they come to Pakistan to study, WTF, not to do.

To be real, it's more of a burden on the world than anything.

Anyway, not going to drag this topic on.

 

[PK781]

When is the time of actual realtime action? Making speeches has been going on for a while now. the indian govt is not really caring much about these speech and they're still doing everything to stop, reduce and divert the water.
When will action be taken on the "act of war" is what i want to know.

 

[atmi_bum]

When Shehbaz Sharif delivered his speech at the UN, Pakistan still didn't have a water policy. Pakistan wastes much of the water it receives via the IWT. Threatening India won't change this reality.

 

[ACE OF HEARTS]

There can be no peace and Pakistan's existence will always be threatened until and unless Pakistan ecomes string enough and actually secures the source of the river water, on the ground, permanently.

Blowing up a dam is a short sighted solution in which you are inviting the enemy to target your dams reciprocally aswel, be it in the disputed regions or not.

A win is only counted as a win by how much ground you have captured, not by how many planes you shot down.

 

[Pak47]

It would look good if you have the power to back it up, but history shows otherwise once the conflict prolongs.

History be damned, you think the US looks at Afghanistan & Vietnam when doing their Hangama around the world? They're also prolonged conflicts. Pakistan can also control the escalation ladder. Worst case scenario what will happen? Nuclear kabooms and every one dies? Is that worse than just you going alone?

 

[Kaveri Engine]

Yeah, but India has more poverty and poverty percentage than Pakistan has.

Is there any data which suggests that the percentage of people living below the poverty line in India is higher than in Pakistan?

 

[Kaveri Engine]

India is diverting water flowing through it’s territory, their is no Pakistani water here.

Rest Pakistan can consider whatever it likes act of war or anything, nobody cares.

Terrorism is already an act of war. Diverting the Indus waters is simply India responding in kind. Whether pakistan calls it an act of war or not changes nothing, we are already at war with Pakistan.

 

[niubi]

India redirecting water away from Pakistan sets a precedent to normalise such things and presents that as an option for China to redirect India's water.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

When is the time of actual realtime action? Making speeches has been going on for a while now. the indian govt is not really caring much about these speech and they're still doing everything to stop, reduce and divert the water.
When will action be taken on the "act of war" is what i want to know.

Diverting Indus waters is a formidable engineering challenge in its own right. Yet the Modi government’s decision to pursue it marks a welcome and long-overdue shift.

Earlier governments never seriously attempted such a step. Once this water is redirected to Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan and Gujarat, no future government will be able to reverse course and restore the Indus Waters Treaty—doing so would ignite farmer protests across India.

Just as treating terrorism as an act of war established an irreversible precedent, large-scale diversion of Indus waters, once implemented on the ground, will prove equally irreversible.

For the first time, an Indian government is approaching India-Pakistan relations through a rational and practical lens rather than a philosophical one, and is altering realities on the ground. talks with Pakistan will yield results only when India first takes concrete measures of this kind.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

India redirecting water away from Pakistan sets a precedent to normalise such things and presents that as an option for China to redirect India's water.

India is at war with Pakistan, not with China. If China wants to stop Indian water, it is free to do so.

When India calls something an act of war, we mean it. We do not issue nuclear threats. But if India ever issued a nuclear threat, the world economy would tank from the threat alone, without a single weapon being used—because the world knows we walk our talk.