Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

The US leadership IQ level is very low and nearly all decisions made on emotion not reality.

US learned one thing, if they underestimated Iran and made it into a stalemate, how much have they been underestimating China?

Thats one thing that Donald Trump seemed to have learned.

Yeah......its true what you say here. No kidding.

Watching some of the learned statesmen from various past admins, when Iran gets done here, doing what it must, the GCC won't even exist anymore. Its so over man. Hard to deny all this:

 

[retaxis]

The United States' sinister intentions have long been perfectly clear to China! The U.S. planned to defeat weak Venezuela first, then defeat Iran, and afterward visit China, deluding itself into trying to intimidate China. Unexpectedly, it ended up failing completely in war, stuck in a dilemma with no way forward or back! It even wants China to help it get out of the mess in Iran! Once again, the United States is putting on a joke for the whole world to see! In the face of China, in fact, the United States has already used every means except hot war, and has failed completely! The United States does not dare to go to war with China directly! This is why Trump respects China. The advantage of strength is on China's side! In today's world, no country dares to open fire on China!

Forget go to war with china, the United States is too scared to go to real war with Iran and send soldiers. They are too scared to face big losses so their power has been exposed by iran.

 

[BHAN85]

Lol, the world including China would be better off without US hegemony. Don't forget China fought two wars against the US. the Korean and Vietnam wars, and US blockaded others having relations and doing business with China for decades. Yanks and NATO even bombed Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia as late as 1999.

World without USA would need another bomber country to keep world order or international commerce will be impossible.

It's not a matter of ideology or preferences, just basic human nature.

Can a people survive without a state? Of course not: It's chaos, criminal gangs, constant stealing and killings.

Well, international commerce is same thing but to a bigger scale, you need a superpower to keep each world state behaving right. Or all your merchant ships will be stolen by Somali pirates and any other near land.

That paper in current world is done by USA, and only to that, China can do international commerce without use violence.

Without USA, China would have to choose between start to bomb things or stop international commerce.

 

[retaxis]

oday's China — even if the United States sent all of its aircraft carriers over, China could completely annihilate every U.S. carrier strike group within a dozen minutes or so, thousands of kilometers away from China's coast! These are words spoken by the current U.S. Secretary of Defense in a private interview! The United States is not peace-loving; it simply does not dare to go to war with China!

America's trump create dog eat dog world which suits china just fine. But america is a dog that is scared to get scratched in a fight so they become paper tiger. Very low iq bluff that got exposed big time and now everyone sees it.

 

[BHAN85]

Wake up! It's 2026 now. Try to plunder China? Let's see which country dares to? Which country are you talking about? What kind of logic is that? China had already existed for thousands of years before the United States even came into being! The West, with its short history, probably can't understand any of this!

Try to plunder Chinese ships? Everybody would do without world order sustained by USA.

International commerce needs a system of power sustained in violence to be done.

Now it's USA who do the work. Without USA it would be impossible for China to sell things in far countries, they would need to do same paper of world military bully.

 

[HERO]

America's trump create dog eat dog world which suits china just fine. But america is a dog that is scared to get scratched in a fight so they become paper tiger. Very low iq bluff that got exposed big time and now everyone sees it.

Yes! The United States is putting on a joke in front of the whole world! Haha!

 

[ety]

Try to plunder Chinese ships? Everybody would do without world order sustained by USA.

International commerce needs a system of power sustained in violence to be done.

Now it's USA who do the work. Without USA it would be impossible for China to sell things in far countries, they would need to do same paper of world military bully.

Lol, you think it's like 18th and 19th centuries, the European powers can still plunder and loot China and other countries around the world at will. Keep dreaming. Chinese ships and trade don't need US hegemon protection, China is entirely capable of protecting its ships. US is now more of a source of trouble rather than a protector of world order and security, everyone can see that. EU countries can pick up the profession of piracy and plundering again and try on China on the routes and see what happens.

 

[HERO]

Lol, you think it's like 18th and 19th centuries, the European powers can still plunder and loot China and other countries around the world at will. Keep dreaming. Chinese ships and trade don't need US hegemon protection, China is entirely capable of protecting its ships. US is now more of a source of trouble rather than a protector of world order and security, everyone can see that. EU countries can pick up the profession of piracy and plundering again and try on China on the routes and see what happens.

You're absolutely right!

 

[OldTwilight]

Well , it's was Pezeshkian turn to tries his hand , he failed now it's time to give control to the military

 

[UKBengali]

Lol, you think it's like 18th and 19th centuries, the European powers can still plunder and loot China and other countries around the world at will. Keep dreaming. Chinese ships and trade don't need US hegemon protection, China is entirely capable of protecting its ships. US is now more of a source of trouble rather than a protector of world order and security, everyone can see that. EU countries can pick up the profession of piracy and plundering again and try on China on the routes and see what happens.

So why does China not simply send its own vessels to take oil from Iranian ports?

US won't dare attack a Chinese flagged vessel.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

World without USA would need another bomber country to keep world order or international commerce will be impossible.

It's not a matter of ideology or preferences, just basic human nature.

Can a people survive without a state? Of course not: It's chaos, criminal gangs, constant stealing and killings.

Well, international commerce is same thing but to a bigger scale, you need a superpower to keep each world state behaving right. Or all your merchant ships will be stolen by Somali pirates and any other near land.

That paper in current world is done by USA, and only to that, China can do international commerce without use violence.

Without USA, China would have to choose between start to bomb things or stop international commerce.

The problem that is that the US can no longer keep up their shipbuilding capability.

Their navy will become much more deteriorated in the next 1-2 decades.

If China doesn't want to step up to gradually fulfill the vacuum left by them, the world could become problematic, especially those shipping lines.

 

[BananaRepublic]

So why does China not simply send its own vessels to take oil from Iranian ports?

US won't dare attack a Chinese flagged vessel.

Seems like China is quite happy keeping the US stuck in ME mess.

It means US cannot organise itself and its allies agsinst China.

In fact, US needs China’s cooperation to keep Iran at bay.

whilst China doesn’t want a global recession - it also doesn’t want the war to end too soon.

Which explains why China gives Iran just enough to keep going.

 

[UKBengali]

Seems like China is quite happy keeping the US stuck in ME mess.

It means US cannot organise itself and its allies agsinst China.

In fact, US needs China’s cooperation to keep Iran at bay.

whilst China doesn’t want a global recession - it also doesn’t want the war to end too soon.

Which explains why China gives Iran just enough to keep going.

This to me suggests that Iranian oil at some level is still getting into China.

China would absolutely not allow Iran to be defeated and be replaced with a Zio-US puppet regime.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The problem that is that the US can no longer keep up their shipbuilding capability.

Their navy will become much more deteriorated in the next 1-2 decades.

If China doesn't want to step up to gradually fulfill the vacuum left by them, the world could become problematic, especially those shipping lines.

Globalisation has been a failure.

Countries need to trade with their neighbours.

Distribute the load for regional powers to keep regional shipping lanes clear.

There’s no need for a hegemonic power.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Globalisation has been a failure.

Countries need to trade with their neighbours.

Distribute the load for regional powers to keep regional shipping lanes clear.

There’s no need for a hegemonic power.

The globalization was proposed by the US to prevent the nations of Eurasia to become fully interconnected at the expense of isolating the North America.

Without the globalization via the maritime shipping lines, then China's belt and road initiatives via the high speed rail will become true to interconnect not just the whole Eurasia, also Africa.