PAF pilot highlights how chinese J10C fighters have left US F16's Obsolete

[MMM-E]

Turkey's military power is number one in the world! Satisfied now?!

No , Chinese military power is number one in the world which detect the F-16 from 600-1000 km away

typical Chinese communist regime propaganda ... And on top of that, they believe these lies as if they were real.

 

[MMM-E]

Here, too, it is important to consider which countries possess the F-16 or J-10C

Other Countries that buy the J-10C do not possess systems like the PL-17 Missile, KJ-3000 AEWC, Y-9G jamming Aircraft and the Jilin-1 constellation Satellites


Pakistan ( J-10C ) vs Taiwan ( F-16V )

Pakistan ( J-10C ) vs Israel or Turkiye ( F-16)


One should look at the air force's total combat power rather than the platform itself.

 

[HERO]

Turkey's military power is number one in the world! I won't reply any further; there's no point in it!

 

[MH.Yang]

And Google AI says you are lying
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so KJ-3000 can not detect the F-16 from 600-1000 km
but 350-450 km

American AI doesnt care about Chinese claims

This is a screenshot of Gemini 3, which is only an information integration tool and does not have an AI professional analysis system. You should use real AI to understand the answer to the problem.

 

[MMM-E]

When you can't engage in a technical discussion, you make silly posts like this
I wish just one of you would share some useful information instead of trolling


if , Integrating the AIM-174B air to air Missile onto the F-16 would theoretically create an unprecedented long-range sniper platform.


By the same logic, HURJET could also render the F-16 obsolete.

Once if Turkiye integrate the GOKBORA BVR Missile which has a range of over 185 km onto the HÜRJET in near future , it could defeat Pakistan's F-16s in BVR combat

Pakistan has only 105 km AIM-120C5 for its F-16s
USA has 240 km AIM-174B for its F-16s
Israel soon gets 250 km SKY STING for its F-16s

 

[MH.Yang]

When you can't engage in a technical discussion, you make silly posts like this
I wish just one of you would share some useful information instead of trolling


if , Integrating the AIM-174B air to air Missile onto the F-16 would theoretically create an unprecedented long-range sniper platform.


By the same logic, HURJET could also render the F-16 obsolete.

Once if Turkiye integrate the GOKBORA BVR Missile which has a range of over 185 km onto the HÜRJET in near future , it could defeat Pakistan's F-16s in BVR combat

Pakistan has only 105 km AIM-120C5 for its F-16s
USA has 240 km AIM-174B for its F-16s
Israel soon gets 250 km SKY STING for its F-16s

AI says that your report contains incorrect references to physical concepts, and even incorrect calculations. It is a pieced together record of online debates, not an AI analysis report.

 

[MMM-E]

Claims such as to detect the F-16 from 600–1,000 km are currently exaggerated

600-1000 km detection range maybe against the B-52 Bomber
but the KJ-3000 can detect the F-16 from 450 km

Let's say it can detect F-16 from 600 km
what difference would it make ? The range of the PL-17 is 400 km



Forget about hunting down F-16s from 400 km away; that world doesn't exist.

A technologically advanced Air Force could reduce the BVR combat range of the J-10C to 100-120 km, even if it's armed with PL-17s

If you were to ask which countries can do this ( the USA, Russia, and Turkiye )
Israel also getting this capability with the ELLYON jammer Aircraft project

USA : EA-37B
Turkiye : ASOJ-23A
China : Y-9G
Russia : IL-22PP

Electronic Warfare -Jamming technology is of immense importance, even more important than BVR Missiles.

 

[MMM-E]

Without the Jammer Aircraft ( EA-37B or ASOJ-23A ) the F-16's chances against the J-10C in BVR combat would diminish. even the PL-15 has a range exceeding 200 km

only F-16 vs J-10C
F-16V with 160 km AIM-120C8
J-10C with 200 km PL-15


I don't know if Pakistan's F-16s have modern EW suites.

but , American-Israeli F-16s have its own Electronic Warfare Suite ,also Turkish F-16s
Turkish SPEWS-II EW Suite deceives the missiles and radars by displaying the F-16 in a different location

It can also generate multiple false targets on the enemy Radar to protect the platform

AEWC or J-10C will see on their Radars multiple false F-16s and in a different location

Which one are you going to fire PL-15 Missiles at ?

 

[Watandar]

First enough JF-17's have to be built to replace the obsolete F7's and Mirages. I don't know why further Jf17 production is stopped.

Getting rid of the F16 is a political decision now.

Ok so people have clarified to me that JF-17 production is on-going, albeit at a paltry pace of around 20 per year and entirely devoted to foreign sales. I still think that's not optimum.

The recent conflicts with India and Afghanistan showed us that only the J10, F16 and JF17 in the Air Force inventory can actually do something. That was a nasty surprise to many of us.

Pakistan needs to keep enhancing the abilities of the JF-17 and replace the completely useless F7 and Mirages as soon as possible.

 

[imadul]

First enough JF-17's have to be built to replace the obsolete F7's and Mirages. I don't know why further Jf17 production is stopped.

Getting rid of the F16 is a political decision now.

What PAF is doing with the obsolete F6, F7PG?
Converting to uncrewed wesponised drones, UCAV like PLAAF?
Even old nanchang/fantan can be converted from swarm attacks.
Economic drone warfare.

 

[Pioneer]

What PAF is doing with the obsolete F6, F7PG?
Converting to uncrewed wesponised drones, UCAV like PLAAF?
Even old nanchang/fantan can be converted from swarm attacks.
Economic drone warfare.

Convert F7 into a drone. This is the best approach.

 

[Watandar]

What PAF is doing with the obsolete F6, F7PG?
Converting to uncrewed wesponised drones, UCAV like PLAAF?
Even old nanchang/fantan can be converted from swarm attacks.
Economic drone warfare.

Converting them to drones is a possibility however that would require money, effort and considerable expertise. It may be cheaper and better to buy remotely piloted or autonomous drones off the shelf.

Converting some of the F7/Mirages into remotely piloted drones for special missions may be the only use-case that could be justifiable.