France offers flexibility for India to integrate indigenous weapons with Rafale

[KingQamaR]

Yes but there IS a limit to Chinese support to Pakistan. Beyond a certain point China will cut its losses.

Beijing will always be assisting Pakistani military. China is neutralising a western lackey India from focusing on china. One less threat for China to worry about.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Or, next time, hurt Indians economically so much that they won't think about war later ......

Obviously, it's as easy as frying a pakora.
That's like seeing a plane fly overhead and saying, 'Perfect, my Uber is here.'

This is exactly the kind of response I expect from someone who is disconnected from reality.

India is enormous, and its infrastructure, industry, and logistics networks are spread throughout the country. Pakistan, however, has relied extensively on Karachi for imports, exports, and economic activity. In my view, years of corruption and mismanagement diverted resources that should have been used to develop alternative economic hubs, leaving the country far more vulnerable than it should be. In last 79 years, Pakistan failed to develop another coastal city with ports for international trade. Punjab based politicians try to make one city "Paris of Pakistan" while ignoring entire Pakistan.

We are not going to discuss Gwadar port since it's developed by China, and it's has been handed over to China.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

China won't allow Pakistan to lose a war with India same as China can not allow NK to lose to USA. Even from a selfish perspective, it would bring negative consequences for China if India dominates South Asia

Before discussing the outcome, you need to define what constitutes "losing" a war.

Both sides are nuclear-armed, and Pakistan is not in a position to endure a lengthy conflict. In my view, a conventional war would likely remain short, perhaps around 16 to 21 days, because economic limitations could constrain the replenishment and sustained use of military assets. Also, China is concerned about Pakistan's short-term interest and ignoring long term goals.

Perhaps and I don't know what that limit is. China lost hundreds of thousands to push back the Americans out of NK because china had poor military tech and traded lives for progress.

Now that China is a robot/drone military with advanced weapon systems, China will invade India to recapture lost lands and set up puppet states in North and North East India which would cause India to divert their forces from Pakistan to China.

China simply does not believe India is a fighting country who has determination and endurance looking at its history and capability.

Nice, wishful thinking... take a small piece of land is one thing, taking over entire region and creating another Country is a wet dream. UN is your Phuppo ?

 

[PK781]

Before discussing the outcome, you need to define what constitutes "losing" a war.

Both sides are nuclear-armed, and Pakistan is not in a position to endure a lengthy conflict. In my view, a conventional war would likely remain short, perhaps around 16 to 21 days, because economic limitations could constrain the replenishment and sustained use of military assets. Also, China is concerned about Pakistan's short-term interest and ignoring long term goals.

so lets say Pakistan has fuel for 7 days while india has fuel for 21 days, since theyre all economically powerful while we're poor and dependent on imf

At day 7, what do u think will happen? Pakistan will surrender ?? Or it will go for Nuclear weapons? Or beg for ceasefire via trumpy?
What's the point of nuclear weapons if we lose conventionally and then surrender ? Do u mean to say we're now controlled by China to use or not use our weapons?

 

[Watandar]

so lets say Pakistan has fuel for 7 days while india has fuel for 21 days, since theyre all economically powerful while we're poor and dependent on imf

At day 7, what do u think will happen? Pakistan will surrender ?? Or it will go for Nuclear weapons? Or beg for ceasefire via trumpy?
What's the point of nuclear weapons if we lose conventionally and then surrender ? Do u mean to say we're now controlled by China to use or not use our weapons?

That is a very good question. In my view after the fuel runs out Pakistan will not go nuclear but instead seek a deal to stop the war on Indian terms.

The recent Mideast war exposed yet another fragility in Pakistani preparations, the entire country has no fuel reserves and is dependent on tankers reaching it weekly from the Mideast!

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

so lets say Pakistan has fuel for 7 days while india has fuel for 21 days, since theyre all economically powerful while we're poor and dependent on imf

At day 7, what do u think will happen? Pakistan will surrender ?? Or it will go for Nuclear weapons? Or beg for ceasefire via trumpy?
What's the point of nuclear weapons if we lose conventionally and then surrender ? Do u mean to say we're now controlled by China to use or not use our weapons?

The Pakistan Army has likely discussed and planned for all of these scenarios. Personally, I believe that international pressure, especially from the United States, would be enormous if the conflict approached the nuclear threshold. Any consideration of nuclear weapons would likely trigger urgent diplomatic intervention well before their use. I hope this answers your question. Somethings can't be discussed in open forums.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

That is a very good question. In my view after the fuel runs out Pakistan will not go nuclear but instead seek a deal to stop the war on Indian terms.

The recent Mideast war exposed yet another fragility in Pakistani preparations, the entire country has no fuel reserves and is dependent on tankers reaching it weekly from the Mideast!

Wrong assessment, Army has its own fuel deports and they run by Army. Public falls into different category.