This is how US-Israel-Iran War may end: Revised Islamabad MOU

This war goes to hell, we are the most suffered nation due to this war ...Pakistan economy is toasted and massive LNG crisis is brewing in upcoming winter in Pakistan. Gas price is beyond average Pakistani buying power. Focus the Pak economy.
 
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This war goes to hell, we are the most suffered nation due to this war ...Pakistan economy is toasted and massive LNG crisis is brewing in upcoming winter in Pakistan. Gas price is beyond average Pakistani buying power. Focus the Pak economy.
How would that happen?
The economy was toast for the last 30 years - The changes needed to fix the economy require decades of investment and since Pakistan does not produce much in the way of petrochemical you are reliant on the middle eastern supply.

Basically, the western elite aligned with zionists have screwed the world economy to get their way - it isnt some 1 evil side as much as aligned and opportunist interests that have screwed things over.

The problem is that unlike Pakistan many other economies have created reserves and redundancies to keep themselves protected in case of such crisis and Pakistan being led by Pakistanis and kept as it is by Pakistanis who are still born and bred in Pakistan - did not plan for "tomorrow" and only their todays.

It isnt like this wasnt pointed out to Pakistani leaders from ALL BACKGROUNDS for the last 60 years.
 
You’ve been living under a rock the last couple weeks then. Oil flow through the Strait is back to prewar levels minus Iranian exports. Iran is getting ZERO through the Strait. The US controls the Strait, that’s clear as day at this point.
If they are still hitting ships America doesn’t control the straits agree from what everything has been said oil is flowing problem is that doesn’t cover the oil released from the reserves past year you would have to actually to be able to send more than you are actually using to be able to fill the reserves(big reason gas prices haven’t gone down)now let’s talk about Qatar natural gas that’s a big one they haven’t repaired yet(it’s alright america has plenty of natural gas is going to be your reply)and won’t repaired for a very long time my friend winter is coming around the world if you think it’s over it’s really not not without a just agreement…..I don’t feel like your a solar panel or green energy type person or maybe your rich and don’t mind maybe a few thousand dollars extra a year on electric bill
 
How would that happen?
The economy was toast for the last 30 years - The changes needed to fix the economy require decades of investment and since Pakistan does not produce much in the way of petrochemical you are reliant on the middle eastern supply.

Basically, the western elite aligned with zionists have screwed the world economy to get their way - it isnt some 1 evil side as much as aligned and opportunist interests that have screwed things over.

The problem is that unlike Pakistan many other economies have created reserves and redundancies to keep themselves protected in case of such crisis and Pakistan being led by Pakistanis and kept as it is by Pakistanis who are still born and bred in Pakistan - did not plan for "tomorrow" and only their todays.

It isnt like this wasnt pointed out to Pakistani leaders from ALL BACKGROUNDS for the last 60 years.
When our leaders sign IPP agreement and paying 477 billion rupees a month, which include Sharif and Chinese IPP and all dirty agreement sign in UK , not in Pakistan ....God knows how many more dirty agreement signed which never surfaced .... I don't know when the curse of IPP will over.
On top LNG kickbacks and lot more...
 
This war goes to hell, we are the most suffered nation due to this war ...Pakistan economy is toasted and massive LNG crisis is brewing in upcoming winter in Pakistan. Gas price is beyond average Pakistani buying power. Focus the Pak economy.
Yes I brought up the natural gas topic to my friend @F-22Raptor I will give raptor leeway only because he actually believes what he says it’s just bad that he can’t ever admit when he’s wrong….seriously I’m wrong a lot I have no problem admitting it
 
When our leaders sign IPP agreement and paying 477 billion rupees a month, which include Sharif and Chinese IPP and all dirty agreement sign in UK , not in Pakistan ....God knows how many more dirty agreement signed which never surfaced .... I don't know when the curse of IPP will over.
On top LNG kickbacks and lot more...
The IPP go beyond just fuel - the amount of destruction they wrought into Pakistan's environment is unimaginable.

But, keep in mind that everyone in power then agreed to it because the Chinese wanted it(in the sense of deals) and the Noonies just wanted to make their corruption profits - they gave them so called "ideal" sites - joined with their relatives in the Fauj..

But either way, water under the bridge(dirty , contaminated water) and another nail in the coffin...

Either way, it is simply chickens coming home to roost for the entire world including the US and Iran... the real profiteers are quietly buying lands in Argentina - using US tax payer money to set up Kosher Beef farms so they can move if need they need to use the samson option in the ME.
 
The IPP go beyond just fuel - the amount of destruction they wrought into Pakistan's environment is unimaginable.

But, keep in mind that everyone in power then agreed to it because the Chinese wanted it(in the sense of deals) and the Noonies just wanted to make their corruption profits - they gave them so called "ideal" sites - joined with their relatives in the Fauj..

But either way, water under the bridge(dirty , contaminated water) and another nail in the coffin...

Either way, it is simply chickens coming home to roost for the entire world including the US and Iran... the real profiteers are quietly buying lands in Argentina - using US tax payer money to set up Kosher Beef farms so they can move if need they need to use the samson option in the ME.
It certainly looks like the decisions have all been made…

Land in argentina, the bunkers, the warnings, and slow disappearance of food and soon fuel and others….hyperinflation will prevent many ppl from buying anyway.

But i thought the samson would be more used at iran/pakistan than the ME, can u explain some more please?

What will be the final signs? The entire elite rulers of pak fly out to london?

Pakistan will be in a buckets of pain and hurt bcaz it simply did not prepare….
 
It certainly looks like the decisions have all been made…

Land in argentina, the bunkers, the warnings, and slow disappearance of food and soon fuel and others….hyperinflation will prevent many ppl from buying anyway.

But i thought the samson would be more used at iran/pakistan than the ME, can u explain some more please?

What will be the final signs? The entire elite rulers of pak fly out to london?

Pakistan will be in a buckets of pain and hurt bcaz it simply did not prepare….
Each day that passes by, the more we are at the mercy of Iran.

Trump sahb has fukked off from da region after getting the living shitt beaten out of him.

Ye jo idher do rupay k log bukvaas kartay hain they need to be beaten up in da street and sent home.

The mess that these jew-billay have created in da region, who will sort this out now?

Shehbaz Sharif? Munira Whiskey? Modi da suar?

This is the reality we are facing no?

Trump sahb himself said k all you chumppu go sort out your own dramay wid dem Iranis no?

Bola hae na trump nay?......when da SOH got shut down.

He's said all this no?

Go look after your own shit.
 
I think what has happened past few weeks is that Revised MOU was close to signing but the Iranians went one step ahead vs original MOU. It was the first time Iranians have asked for more vs the start of the war. One step ahead of was Houthis. Saudi wanted Houthis to be voluntarily controlled by Iran but Iran just denied any influence over them.

The world including China then called in Iran to control Houthis which Iran is refusing to do.

Iran and US are locked in the mid term election strategy but that ship has sailed. Iran wanted a better than initially signed MOU with one grand deal whilst Trump was not interested in that and was happy to see any gradual re opening of the Strait.

We are now at an impasse again. Trump has accepted Republican loss as a foregone conclusion and is now planning to extend the war beyond mid terms.

Irans best strategy now would be to escalate as much as it can whilst US should be aiming for calm before mid terms followed on by expanded attacks.

Of course hope remains ahead of mid terms that either Trump will fold in and agree a deal or Iran will be reigned in by combined world pressure.

Base case for next few weeks remains poor outcomes.
 
Yahoodi are the Silent force who is wrecking the world, May Allah deal with them.
 
the real profiteers are quietly buying lands in Argentina - using US tax payer money to set up Kosher Beef farms so they can move if need they need to use the samson option in the ME.
It's a fact.



Although I dont think they see a assured nuclear future of that kind, I think it's more like a life insurance, just in case.
 
Talk about wishful thinking if anything Iran is standing tall agree or disagree with Iran damn if you can’t admire that these guys are fighting back against superior and numerical odds and they keep flipping the bird to everyone
Not really. US and Israel are holding back and taking foot off gas deliberately. US appears to be in process of discarding GCC allies after efforts have been exhausted to push them towards normalization with Israel. They've now manufactured a war-like state in the region that will continue to threaten local energy industry of both GCC and Iran for months, maybe years to come. GCC slowly will lose a lot through this and US appears to be trying to push them to point of brink until they agree to normalization with Israel. UAE is only one that maybe spared as US and EU helping them keep afloat and even Iran allowing them to export oil, ceasing attacks on them.
 
Not really. US and Israel are holding back and taking foot off gas deliberately. US appears to be in process of discarding GCC allies after efforts have been exhausted to push them towards normalization with Israel. They've now manufactured a war-like state in the region that will continue to threaten local energy industry of both GCC and Iran for months, maybe years to come. GCC slowly will lose a lot through this and US appears to be trying to push them to point of brink until they agree to normalization with Israel. UAE is only one that maybe spared as US and EU helping them keep afloat and even Iran allowing them to export oil, ceasing attacks on them.
Bibi is being put on leash for now all reports say if trump had gone into another huge round with Iran it would put American troops in harms way with the shortage of interceptors he put his foot off the gas because he had to they’re going to attempt ramp up production these past couple of months for another round so is Iran agree to disagree Iran isn’t waving the white flag and trumps ego has gone haywire
 
Bibi is being put on leash for now all reports say if trump had gone into another huge round with Iran it would put American troops in harms way with the shortage of interceptors he put his foot off the gas because he had to they’re going to attempt ramp up production these past couple of months for another round so is Iran agree to disagree Iran isn’t waving the white flag and trumps ego has gone haywire
He is not being put on a leash. Israel controls the Trump administration. There are less interceptors but no shortage. Iran also has less missiles than before. They can go any week and do weeks of strikes at any time with little cost. They're not doing it as part of war objectives is to paralyze GCC economy by ending their reign as net energy exporter.

USA leadership could care less if they lose a few soldiers even hundreds. The fact that they've brainwashed people that they can't go into a war if there is 3 casualties or more is just sign of how brainwashed people are. They've sacrificed hundreds of thousands in previous wars.

Iran is not deterring them. It's the strategy by design to prolong this until normalization is achieved or Arab nations , particularly Egypt agree to take in people of Gaza. This is why they drag it through end of Trump's war. There was already nuclear agreement ready on the table which US is postponing to sign off on until it sees how much concessions it can squeeze out of GCC and Egypt.
 

Iran’s Top Security Official Warns of Dire Economic Crisis​


Iran’s national security adviser has warned that the rapidly deteriorating economy has plunged the country into one of the most difficult periods in its history.

Mohsen Rezaei, Iran’s top security official, made the rare admission on Saturday at a high-level government meeting about how to stabilize the economy after more than seven months of war.

Iran’s currency, the rial, has plummeted since the United States and Israel launched the war on Iran in February. The decline has accelerated sharply in recent weeks, since the United States ratcheted up sanctions and enforced a naval blockade. That has made imports more expensive and deepened a longstanding cost of living crisis that sparked nationwide protests last December that the security forces crushed with deadly force.

Analysts say the U.S. naval blockade has also largely prevented Iran from exporting oil, depriving the country of its main source of revenue and causing a fuel crisis.
Mohsen Paknejad, the oil minister who said in July that Iran would continue exporting oil despite U.S. sanctions, resigned on Sunday. Seyed Mehdi Tabatabaei, a spokesman for President Masoud Pezeshkian, said on social media that Hamid Bovard, managing director of Iran’s national oil company, would be Mr. Paknejad’s interim replacement.

In recent days, government and private sector employees, including nurses and teachers, have taken to social media to say they were quitting their jobs because their salaries could no longer support them. Iranian local media has reported that retired government employees have held protests in the past few weeks because they said they had not received their full pensions.

In addition to Mr. Rezaei, the government meeting on Saturday included Mr. Pezeshkian and other senior Iranian ministers, according to state media.

State news outlets in Iran did not provide direct quotations of Mr. Rezaei’s comments. But Iran’s state news agency, IRNA, reported that he “described the circumstances as among the most difficult periods the country has faced” and told the meeting that Iran’s security council would provide whatever support it could.
Mr. Pezeshkian acknowledged the worsening economic conditions in a statement on social media on Saturday and said that the government “has adopted a new posture to manage the special conditions.” He did not specify what that would mean in practice.

The economic pressure on Iran has intensified as negotiations between Tehran and Washington have stalled, with both sides refusing to make concessions and signaling that they can outlast the other’s tolerance for economic pain.

In recent weeks, U.S. officials have argued that they are winning the economic standoff. Recent data showed oil shipments from the Middle East have returned almost to prewar levels.

But the price of oil remains higher than before the conflict, and some analysts have warned the crisis for the global economy is far from resolved. The strait remains dangerous to navigate and damage to energy infrastructure has hampered refining capacity and natural gas exports. Iran’s leaders hope that the pressure could hurt President Trump ahead of the U.S. midterm elections, according to analysts.

In addition to the blockade, the United States has blocked most civilian air travel between Iran and the rest of the world, adding a new layer of economic isolation that some sanctions experts have said could hurt critical imports, including medicine.


Many on this forum are in total denial at this point.
 

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