Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[El Sidd]

Muslims and the lands and history they have and had.

Empires gone, nation states gone, it's to do with muslims

That happens everywhere. It's not a Muslim monopoly.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

You still have not told my 'spawned' ground realities.

Please stop wasting my and others' time by talking unrelated stuff. Your words have no value.

Answer specifically my question.

I know you cannot answer. Why don't you simply accept your mistake and then move on?

Like a spate out gum on the pavement!

Iran's expansionist wars?

Do you really need it spelled out pro?
Which war since 1979 Iran initiate?

You really want it to be rubbed on... Like a midget who thinks he's a school yard bully!

 

[prothought]

Like a spate out gum on the pavement!

Iran's expansionist wars?

Do you really need it spelled out pro?
Which war since 1979 Iran initiate?

You really want it to be rubbed on... Like a midget who thinks he's a school yard bully!

Please stop talking unrelated nonsense. Your wording is simply exposing your hallow inner.

I am asking which ground realities I spawned in my post.

Do you really understand my question?

 

[r3alist]

Iranians needs to realize this and step beyond their Jaafria-Wahabi conundrum by brokering a ceasefire between Yemen and KSA. This is the need of the hour instead of doubling down on proxy warfare.

KSA, for the most part, has kept itself out of attacks against Iran by not letting Americans launch from the Saudi bases. This on top of Chinese brokered reconciliation between the two should lead to tangible benefits.

If the mindset on both sides is to ensure regional domination on the basis of their sectarian tilt, then they are presenting themselves on a silver platter to the expansive Zionist hegemony.

At core, Iran wants everyone to be a proxy, they started a revolution to export, a messianic change to incite the occulted 13th imam, we forget this

Meanwhile a big chunk of the population is leaving islam, YET THEY represent islam, how about start within.


The Iranians and houthi-ites want territorial expansion, this is as cynical as it gets for political calculation

 

[Falgrine]

This marriage of convinience between the Ale Saud and Ale Sheikh has been an unmitigated disaster for the broader ME, even the whole world. 9/11, 7/7, Bataclan Paris, Moscow and then ISIS caliphate (Ibne e Tammiye's bastard ideology is a gift that keep itself on giving) and countless other criminal Salafi/Wahabi inspired terroristic incidents around the world should have been enough to awake the world conscience against this evil ideology.

And these Wahabist have the chutzpah to point the fingers else where instead towards their ideological fathers who are the worst of the evil terrorist the world has seen.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Please stop talking unrelated nonsense. Your wording is simply exposing your hallow inner.

I am asking which ground realities I spawned in my post.

Do you really understand my question?

What question?

Real slimy pro!

Iran's expansionist agenda in the region

Is that direct quote from you ... the one you expanded upon...
You pivoted instantly after told that Iran didn't create both Hezbollah nor Houthis...

I asked you a simple question, which war did Iran start?
Where have they expanded?
That expansionist regime?
In fact, that regime has been attacked ever since it spawned!
First by US... then Arab nationalist Iraq... supported by the collective that killed hundreds of thousands of Iranians.
Sanctioned and isolated by the US... their assets frozen!

I asked you, do they have more resources, weapons, men, better technology then what they're facing...
Face palm, pro!

Learn to walk away...

 

[El Sidd]

At core, Iran wants everyone to be a proxy, they started a revolution to export, a messianic change to incite the occulted 13th imam, we forget this

Meanwhile a big chunk of the population is leaving islam, YET THEY represent islam, how about start within.


The Iranians and houthi-ites want territorial expansion, this is as cynical as it gets for political calculation

Fazitbericht:

It's the 12th Imam.

13 is regarded as unlucky in most middle eastern theology.

Iranian revolution is based on Vilayat Faqih, a theology produced by Imam of the revolution, Sayyid Roohullah Musavi al Hindi, born in Khomeyn.

All revolutions are expansionist by their very nature.

 

[r3alist]

That happens everywhere. It's not a Muslim monopoly.

I was pointing out the trajectory from glory to empires, to loss of empires, to nation state, to losing these, the trajectory is clear.... For Muslims

 

[El Sidd]

I was pointing out the trajectory from glory to empires, to loss of empires, to nation state, to losing these, the trajectory is clear.... For Muslims

Glory is a very subjective term.

If you want to apply it on theological term, we would have to read what respective gods defined glory in religious texts. For example, in Egyptian mythology, glorious is the one who has passed the scales of Anubis and traversed the bridge to the realm of the eternal living.

 

[prothought]

Unlike how the terror takfiri networks were formed Hezbollah was direct result of zionist occupation of Lebanon... a pseudo state fragmented in sects and creeds. They protected all Lebanese... while persevering it's southern Lebanese Shi'i minority... the state split with a Christian President and Sunni President by law.
The Houthis are direct result of Saudi interventions... nothing takes shape in vacuum... what they rule today is exactly the Imamate of Yemen borders... defending against British Protectorate of Yemen or southern Yemeni state and northern Saudi aggression... where Saudis continue to occupy Yemeni territories.



Ground realities cannot be spawned by your finger tips or overactive imagination.

What question?

Yes, this question where you accused me of spawning ground realities in the following post.

Post in thread 'Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates'

Today at 6:39 PM

However, what I said is just the recent history. No one can deny the existence of Irani proxies of Hezbollah and Houthis. Same applies to several Irani proxies in Iraq too. People of Pakistan already know pretty well what terrorist Iranian proxies have done in Pakistan.

Unlike how the terror takfiri networks were formed Hezbollah was direct result of zionist occupation of Lebanon... a pseudo state fragmented in sects and creeds. They protected all Lebanese... while persevering it's southern Lebanese Shi'i minority... the state split with a Christian President and Sunni President...

• Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yes, this question where you accused me of spawning ground realities in the following post.

Post in thread 'Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates'

Today at 6:39 PM

However, what I said is just the recent history. No one can deny the existence of Irani proxies of Hezbollah and Houthis. Same applies to several Irani proxies in Iraq too. People of Pakistan already know pretty well what terrorist Iranian proxies have done in Pakistan.

Unlike how the terror takfiri networks were formed Hezbollah was direct result of zionist occupation of Lebanon... a pseudo state fragmented in sects and creeds. They protected all Lebanese... while persevering it's southern Lebanese Shi'i minority... the state split with a Christian President and Sunni President...

• Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ

One pro, twice the laughs!
That post was replied to...

Unlike how the terror takfiri networks were formed Hezbollah was direct result of zionist occupation of Lebanon... a pseudo state fragmented in sects and creeds. They protected all Lebanese... while persevering it's southern Lebanese Shi'i minority... the state split with a Christian President and Sunni President by law.
The Houthis are direct result of Saudi interventions... nothing takes shape in vacuum... what they rule today is exactly the Imamate of Yemen borders... defending against British Protectorate of Yemen or southern Yemeni state and northern Saudi aggression... where Saudis continue to occupy Yemeni territories.



Ground realities cannot be spawned by your finger tips or overactive imagination.

The fact that you don't find your own parameters as qualifiers... both ironic and hilarious says it all... you want to forget the genesis of it all to hone in on a point without which your narrative doesn't work.

Stop quoting me!