Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Haz]

You claimed I only have one video.

But I gave tons of evidences in those threads, and those evidences are all from WESTERN sources!

I can understand why you don't want to read them.

Anyhow that's all irrelevant now. As I said, Iran doesn't need Syrian anymore.
Syrian is now a wasteland, and the people now in power are responsible for that!

Syria will never again get up, never! It will never again become the power it was unser the leadership of the fantastic hero Bashar Al-Assad!

For the rest of your miserabel life your entire self-esteem will solely be based on "we drove the Shias out"

I still can't believe how you can get so many things wrong at the same time, it's unreal. Man what kind of brain washing are they doing to you in Iran, you seem to believe in a completely differently reality from the one that Syrians and their families have endured for decades.

We didn't drive the Shia out, that's out right false, at least not the Syrian Shias, unless you mean all you lot and your proxies, then ya, go back to whatever hole you crawled from, this is not your home. Our fight was against a criminal, brutal dictatorship that has oppressed us for literally generations, more than five decades. This whole BS narrative you have about Assad being some great and just ruler is pathetic, even just pretending he wasn't an out right mass criminal is disgusting to see.

And he wasn't even Muslim, so don't give me that we were fighting Shias, mainstream Alawites are a small heretical sect, most mainstream scholars from both sides don't consider them Muslim, Sunni or Shia. And even if hypothetically he was for the sake of argument, which he wasn't, so what? He was a brutal dictator that committed untold terror to our people, and oppressed the majority of us under a blanket of torture and violence so he and his criminals can maintain power for as long as possible, no matter the cost. Does Saddam all the sudden get his crimes swept under the rug because technically he was Sunni? Or do his crimes stand on their own, regardless of his sect?

Your sectarian brainwashing needs to be corrected, hopefully you will see the light one day, our fight was against generations of torture and terror from a brutal regime, like the many others that unfortunately rule most of our countries. Hopefully you free yourselves from your terrorist extremist regime one day and have a better future. I'll try to ignore your sociopathic ill wishes and bloodlust for our people that didn't do shit to you or your country, and hopefully you'll moderate and drop your sectarian blind hate someday.

 

[prothought]

Syria is already stronger then it was under Assad Militarily and has cleaned out the trash. Besides Turkish high tech has arrived. Syria will become a regional power very soon whether you like or not.

Syria will be poewrful enough in 10 years to invade Iran itself from Iraq.. You lot do not know how to fight except shrine going.. The Syrians have been fighting for 1500 years they are about this life.

They will come knocking and you know this for a fact

If that happens than Syrian must revenge the lives lost to the terrorism by Iranis and their proxies.

 

[Homajon]

And he wasn't even Muslim, so don't give me that we were fighting Shias

Correct.
You are the 0.0001% of Kharaa supporters who think this way.

 

[Haz]

Correct.
You are the 0.0001% of Kharaa supporters who think this way.

Still can't pay any mind to facts or logic, only made up narratives. What I stated is objectively true if you actually cared to look it up, but why let facts get in the way of BS propaganda. But it's irrelevant regardless and not the main point of what I said.

And no one cares about Sharaa the individual, only our revolution and country, he's nothing but one man that can easily die at any moment, and someone else will take his place. We don't sanctify leaders like you. All that matters to us is that we finally freed ourselves from decades of tyranny, and now we have a chance to breath and hopefully build a better future for our people. If you can't understand that, then enjoy your make believe world in Iran, you have no business in our country and never will.

 

[Homajon]

he's nothing but one man

Correct.
You are the 0.0001% of Kharaa supporters who think this way.

 

[Haz]

Correct.
You are the 0.0001% of Kharaa supporters who think this way.

Masha'Allah, you seem to know us better than our own selves. We should start taking lessons from Iranians and other foreigners to find out what really happened to my own family, people and country all these decades, as if we didn't literally live through it the entire time.

The absolute hubris.

 

[Homajon]

Masha'Allah, you seem to know us better than our own selves.

Indeed, I do.

We should start taking lessons from Iranians

From me

 

[Haz]

Hopefully we can put this to bed for like the 5th time

 

[hyperman]

Man **** off. Have some shame, not only do you help destroy our nation and peoples, but you also come back to laugh at the misery and suffering it has continued to cause every ordinary Syrian. How classy.

And you wonder why the entire world has turned against you. Unbelievable, not a shred of decency.

All of it is butthurt over their corridor to Hezbollah and the "Shia Cresent", they will mask it over Zionist Zionist Zionist, Jewlani Jewlani Jewlani, but thats all it is, their own strategic loss, that they will claim is really all about helping Palestine.

Most annoying people ever, they just can't move on mentally, with delusions of restoring a status quo ante, Assad isn't coming back.

 

[hyperman]

But what will they fight with? Motorbikes and finger waving? Their entire miliary infrastructure was destroyed by Israel and Türkiye has barely scratched the surface to rebuild it right now.

They just say this to incite and taunt, and they are desperate for Syria to open up a front with Israel, get destroyed, all to take pressure off southern Lebanon. They feel like Syrian owe Hezbollah this or something.

If they are so desperate for a second front, go ask the Iraqi Militias to start launching attacks from Iraq into Israel. lol

 

[Shags202]

Again, that means nothing until the government announces they changed their position, which to this point has been a hard pass, this wasn't the first time Saudi requested help.

Israel and the US have been heavily pressuring us to go into Lebanon for over a year now to do their bidding against Hezbollah, and the government still resisted and said no.

If they can't pressure us to do that, Saudi and Turkey wont either. And Saudi hasn't funded shit, its all been just talk and empty promises. I wish they sent some funding, we desperately need it right now, that was the point of Sharaa's visit, we need aid and investment just to feed our impoverished people, we're close to 90% poverty and the economy is dead. We need help to get back on our feet, hopefully not at the cost of more of our people dying, especially in foreign lands in a conflict that doesn't involve us.

You don’t see them sending men who are called upon for a “just” cause men who enjoy this type of fighting that are now sitting around doing nothing a lot of foreign resistance fighters came to Syria many would relish for another fight and the Syria of today might want them gone in case these guys decide a quiet Syria isn’t what they want but a caliphate but let me be clear I think most who fought in the civil war would rather Syria be peaceful and prosperous but many foreign elements came for “jihad” and prefer to keep fighting

 

[Haz]

You don’t see them sending men who are called upon for a “just” cause men who enjoy this type of fighting that are now sitting around doing nothing a lot of foreign resistance fighters came to Syria many would relish for another fight and the Syria of today might want them gone in case these guys decide a quiet Syria isn’t what they want but a caliphate but let me be clear I think most who fought in the civil war would rather Syria be peaceful and prosperous but many foreign elements came for “jihad” and prefer to keep fighting

No not really for a few good reasons. One, there aren't many left in the country, there's only an estimated few thousands left, lower than 5k from what I've seen last summer, and that might have shrunk further by now. The ones that were highly motivated to just jump from one fight to the next, have left long ago.

There's also been a deliberate purge of any problematic foreigners that aren't on board with the program of proper state building, and that started way before they took Damascus, all the way back in Idlib, they've been expelling, and occasionally even jailing, hard line foreigners for a numbers of years now. So the few left, should the ones that have completely integrated into the government's stated mission and policies, which includes proper professionalized security forces that obey and respect chain of command, and don't just act independently.

They're not tolerating any loose cannons, they know how badly that will hurt their international image, it was already rough to start with, they don't need to add to that. Also, the ones that have remained have pretty much settled down by now, they have married locally and have families, so they are fully integrated and much less of a flight risk.

If anything, given the Sharaa's past and still lingering reputation, I'd actually expect the opposite and see him clamp down and warn against anyone from going there, or else it would hurt our foreign standing that he's been working hard to rehabilitate. Obviously you can't control everything, and the country is not completely stable and pacified, so if a few manage to find their way down there, it would almost certainly be by their own accord, and I would bet Sharaa would be pissed too.

If we were to ever send a Syrian contingent there, it would be done properly through an official state level process. No more militia, mercenary and proxy shit, the government is pretty serious about building a proper country with state level institutions, this won't be another Afghanistan. The tweet I posted above has a key phrase as part of the official Syrian response to those BS axios, likely Mossad, PR campaigns about us considering sending troops;

"The official statement says any military cooperation happens only through official channels and existing bilateral frameworks."

So I'm not too worried about it.

 

[Shags202]

No not really for a few good reasons. One, there aren't many left in the country, there's only an estimated few thousands left, lower than 5k from what I've seen last summer, and that might have shrunk further by now. The ones that were highly motivated to just jump from one fight to the next, have left long ago.

There's also been a deliberate purge of any problematic foreigners that aren't on board with the program of proper state building, and that started way before they took Damascus, all the way back in Idlib, they've been expelling, and occasionally even jailing, hard line foreigners for a numbers of years now. So the few left, should the ones that have completely integrated into the government's stated mission and policies, which includes proper professionalized security forces that obey and respect chain of command, and don't just act independently.

They're not tolerating any loose cannons, they know how badly that will hurt their international image, it was already rough to start with, they don't need to add to that. Also, the ones that have remained have pretty much settled down by now, they have married locally and have families, so they are fully integrated and much less of a flight risk.

If anything, given the Sharaa's past and still lingering reputation, I'd actually expect the opposite and see him clamp down and warn against anyone from going there, or else it would hurt our foreign standing that he's been working hard to rehabilitate. Obviously you can't control everything, and the country is not completely stable and pacified, so if a few manage to find their way down there, it would almost certainly be by their own accord, and I would bet Sharaa would be pissed too.

If we were to ever send a Syrian contingent there, it would be done properly through an official state level process. No more militia, mercenary and proxy shit, the government is pretty serious about building a proper country with state level institutions, this won't be another Afghanistan. The tweet I posted above has a key phrase as part of the official Syrian response to those BS axios, likely Mossad, PR campaigns about us considering sending troops;

"The official statement says any military cooperation happens only through official channels and existing bilateral frameworks."

So I'm not too worried about it.

Several thousand foreign “jihadists” from Asia is a lot no small number and man I have seen those guys on some of the videos circulating during the civil war they make the Taliban look like Mr Roger’s again let me repeat this because I’m not trying to troll or anything I honestly believe many who participated in the civil war would rather hand over their weapons and start a prosperous Syria whatever my feelings right or wrong(we will see what happens when or if they have internationally observed elections)regarding the leaders..

 

[Haz]

Several thousand foreign “jihadists” from Asia is a lot no small number and man I have seen those guys on some of the videos circulating during the civil war they make the Taliban look like Mr Roger’s again let me repeat this because I’m not trying to troll or anything I honestly believe many who participated in the civil war would rather hand over their weapons and start a prosperous Syria whatever my feelings right or wrong(we will see what happens when or if they have internationally observed elections)regarding the leaders..

Like I said, the government is well aware, and they've taken concrete actions to address that particular headache since the early 2020's, it's been an ongoing process to clean the ranks. They've made it pretty clear they are not tolerating any nonsense or individuals stepping out of line, you either show that you respect the process and orders you're given and don't demonstrate any troubling behaviour, or you get kicked out or jailed.

The ones that are staying here for good, will likely become naturalized and given Syrian citizenship, many of them have already married locally and have Syrian children at this point. So it shouldn't be an issue, so far we haven't had any serious concerns with the ones left.