Trump talks to Putin, then announces diesel deal with Russia, in sharp reversal of US policy

[KAL-EL]

For one thing, Trump can supply Patriot PAC 3 to Russia to shoot down Ukraine's long range drones.

Doubtful at best

 

[j_hungary]

Trump can do so without Congress approval. Obama was able to send some counter battery radars to Ukraine in 2014 without Congress approval.

Are you for real comparing the Patriot missile to AN/TPQ36 Radar?

Actually, why am I talking to you to begin with?

Also, in case you are wondering, the 2 AN/TPQ radars were transferred under the Ukrainian Freedom Support Act (H.R. 5859) in 2014.....

 

[Yommie]

Are you for real comparing the Patriot missile to AN/TPQ36 Radar?

Actually, why am I talking to you to begin with?

Also, in case you are wondering, the 2 AN/TPQ radars were transferred under the Ukrainian Freedom Support Act (H.R. 5859) in 2014.....

Patriot PAC 3 is a defensive weapon. It can be sent without Congress approval. In fact, all the Republicans would be for it. It helps GOP win election by cutting down gas price.

Remember when Obama sent all those TOW missiles to Syrian rebels in 2014? None of that required Congress approval.

 

[KAL-EL]

Patriot PAC 3 is a defensive weapon. It can be sent without Congress approval. In fact, all the Republicans would be for it. It helps GOP win election by cutting down gas price.

Remember when Obama sent all those TOW missiles to Syrian rebels in 2014? None of that required Congress approval.

Patriot PAC 3 is your idea. That doesn't mean Trump is going to do it

 

[Yommie]

Patriot PAC 3 is your idea. That doesn't mean Trump is going to do it

PAC 3 is an option, but for Russia a better choice is HQ-16. China is a Russian ally. The US is only a fair weather friend that cannot be depended on.

HQ-16 - Wikipedia

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[j_hungary]

Patriot PAC 3 is a defensive weapon. It can be sent without Congress approval. In fact, all the Republicans would be for it. It helps GOP win election by cutting down gas price.

Remember when Obama sent all those TOW missiles to Syrian rebels in 2014? None of that required Congress approval.

Dude, maybe you need to study up before you talk to me.

Under the Arms Export Control Act of 1976, any international government receiving weapons from the United States require the Act of Congress.

Arms Export Control Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also, Article II of the Constitution gives the budgetary responsibility to Congress, so even if somehow Trump can bypass the Arms Export Control Act, he won't have the money to buy and transfer said article to Russia unless he pays for it himself, because if he wanted the government to pay for it, that's Congress's job to come up with a budget.

 

[KAL-EL]

PAC 3 is an option, but for Russia a better choice is HQ-16. China is a Russian ally. The US is only a fair weather friend that cannot be depended on.

HQ-16 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and Russia is Duplicitous.

but of course because Trump, is a Putin puppet, he doesn't care because he wants to look like he's doing something about the cost of diesel.

Too bad for Trump because the midterm elections will be happening in less than a month. This won't change the outcome

And as for you saying the US could do this or China could do that, it's all hypothetical from your mind it's not a fact

 

[Yommie]

and Russia is Duplicitous.

but of course because Trump, is a Putin puppet, he doesn't care because he wants to look like he's doing something about the cost of diesel.

Too bad for Trump because the midterm elections will be happening in less than a month. This won't change the outcome

And as for you saying the US could do this or China could do that, it's all hypothetical from your mind it's not a fact

It's more a long term commitment. GOP is here to stay. There are future elections to think about, not only the one in a month.

 

[Yommie]

and Russia is Duplicitous.

I'm Chinese and Russia is the country most liked by Chinese. Russians are honest. Americans are liars. Americans only care about their own interests. Americans do not respect anyone.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Dude, maybe you need to study up before you talk to me.

Under the Arms Export Control Act of 1976, any international government receiving weapons from the United States require the Act of Congress.

Arms Export Control Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Also, Article II of the Constitution gives the budgetary responsibility to Congress, so even if somehow Trump can bypass the Arms Export Control Act, he won't have the money to buy and transfer said article to Russia unless he pays for it himself, because if he wanted the government to pay for it, that's Congress's job to come up with a budget.

The "Arms Export Control Act" means shit. I am shocked you think it means anything. The USA has provided weapons to Israel to conduct an actual genocide against its own laws. The USA knows that Israel has nuclear weapons but wilfully ignores that fact so that can "ignore it's own laws" to not enforce them against Israel.

How many it's own laws, processes and controls does the USA ignore for Israel?

I could go on.

Lets not talk about "USA Laws" having any level of sanctity, they don't. They are "optional" as is every law out in the world to the US Administration and can be ignored at will when not convenient.

The USA is currently in the middle of a war with Iran, without congressional approval...

These things can be ignored, regardless of "USA Law" ..

 

[j_hungary]

Patriot PAC 3 is your idea. That doesn't mean Trump is going to do it

May as well transfer the B-2 and F-22 to Russia while they are at it

 

[j_hungary]

The "Arms Export Control Act" means shit. I am shocked you think it means anything. The USA has provided weapons to Israel to conduct an actual genocide against its own laws. The USA knows that Israel has nuclear weapons but wilfully ignores that fact so that can "ignore it's own laws" to not enforce them against Israel.

How many it's own laws, processes and controls does the USA ignore for Israel?

I could go on.

Lets not talk about "USA Laws" having any level of sanctity, they don't. They are "optional" as is every law out in the world to the US Administration and can be ignored at will when not convenient.

These things can be ignored, regardless of "USA Law" ..

Well, regardless of what you think of us, we still respect the law; that's why most of Trump's policies were rolled back after the Supreme Court challenge.

On the other hand, you are comparing the US support for Israel to nonexistent support of Russia, and I will tell you this: if we really don't care about the laws, the situation in Gaza would probably be 10 times worse; there were actually talks about transferring and allowing the use of thermobaric weapons to Israel. If you think Russia using them in Ukraine is bad, try imagining it being used in a 200-square-kilometer area

 

[Yommie]

Dude, maybe you need to study up before you talk to me.

Under the Arms Export Control Act of 1976, any international government receiving weapons from the United States require the Act of Congress.

Arms Export Control Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

View attachment 218848

Also, Article II of the Constitution gives the budgetary responsibility to Congress, so even if somehow Trump can bypass the Arms Export Control Act, he won't have the money to buy and transfer said article to Russia unless he pays for it himself, because if he wanted the government to pay for it, that's Congress's job to come up with a budget.

Nobody gives a hoot about laws in the US. Even murderers get off scotch free in Democrat states.

 

[Yommie]

May as well transfer the B-2 and F-22 to Russia while they are at it

Why would Russia need F-22 when Russia can get J-36 which are way better?

 

[KingQamaR]

I don't know if you're Russia and trump supporter but you're retarded. Zelensky and trump are both control by america deep state. The friction between them is theatrics.

Good thing putin has realised this recently and that why Russia will continue bombing tankers in strait of hormuz using iran to keep the price of oil high.

Now now, little children no name calling we can all disagree without being rude

If you think about it , that’s actually worse. He sold out Ukraine , undermined the western alliance and embarrassed the entire US nation for nothing .. and he has to be told that it likely would never turn show up .. ️