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It takes two hands to shake hands. The believers if they were united, would never be disunited, and if they were never united, will they be called as believers?
Lest, the one calling apostasy be led by unbelievers...
But that is neither here nor there ... your gripe is aimed at protecting the established.
You're saying why repeat the same...
We... nation state
Bygones be Bygones.

Yes, modern nation states, in English defined, who have a King named Charles.
And an unknown premier.

Last we know... MBS had to confine some for his approval...

The Yemenis have been judged to be unfit for governance ever since times of Sheba when they couldn't maintain their built dam. No one wants a dysfunctional lawless land next to their ambitions.
Aah... a judge, jury and executionior... egging his acolytes!

Yemenis beg to differ...
Join in with the PMC... maybe they pay in Euros too

Suggest me a hobby with the definite power of older wisdom. It will be respected.
Yeah... anything...
 
Lest, the one calling apostasy be led by unbelievers...
But that is neither here nor there ... your gripe is aimed at protecting the established.
You're saying why repeat the same...
We... nation state
Bygones be Bygones.
Fassad and Fitna are not tools of the believers.

You want an established status quo of senseless infighting of your believers.

Aah... a judge, jury and executionior... egging his acolytes!

Yemenis beg to differ...
Join in with the PMC... maybe they pay in Euros too

Yemenis should take it up with the one who destroyed their dam, the one who would not make home in Yemeni House and the one who destroyed their elephants.
 
Fassad and Fitna are not tools of the believers.

You want an established status quo of senseless infighting of your believers.
Me?

Right above is your justification of Saudi act to abolish just that... followed by Yemenis unfit to rule themselves
Abd now this..
Just stop quoting me

Yemenis should take it up with the one who destroyed their dam, the one who would not make home in Yemeni House and the one who destroyed their elephants.
Yeah right..
Time for the meds sid!
 


Admittedly, I have been away from the Middle Eastern geopolitics for several weeks due to some recent exhaustive travels; still trying to understand whats going on in the region to the west of Pakistan. Here is my understanding after watching some videos, especially by the greats like Chas Freeman and Elijah Magnier:
The 'Saudis' attacked a plane landing in Sana (Yemen) which had an Iranian delegation but the Saudis denied that attack and I tend to believe they had no reason to re-ignite the hostilities with the Houthies. Maybe a false flag involving Israel? Maybe the pro Saudi faction/loose cannons did that attack? But the Houthies response has been too much to that despite the Saudi denial of the attack. The Iranians say they have no control over the Houthies but some reports say the Iranians asked the Houthies to escalate the war against Saudi Arabia, which the Houthies are obliging? And the rationale for the Iranians is that they don't want enough oil to flow out of the Middle East because that reduces Iran's leverage. Iran, for some understandable reasons, would rather burn down the region if Iran itself is getting burned down; it has become their survival strategy. And the Houthies are one of the tools in that strategy.

And sadly, the Houthies, like the Afghan Taliban, don't have much to lose and so are willing to lose it all. And the bottom line is that Iran has painted itself into a corner where it gets a lot of credit for Iran's standing up for the Palestinians but when does standing up for the 5-10 million Palestinians stand vs the interests of hundreds of millions of those whose lives are going to be destroyed in case of a regional war?
 
Houthies are one of the tools

What a headless tool of a take!

Goes without saying that poor and destitute are considered worthless and without agency.

How can they resist?
But the question can never arise that Saudis could perhaps drop the blockade on Yemen. This war was imposed on Yemen by the US... that keot metastasizing everytime it was escalated. To the point where it has reached now...

Yemeni loss is greater than Iranian need to increase energy costs.... plain and simple... second Saudis are the aggressors in this war of choice. They can choose to de-escalate... just last week when Houthis offered negotiations Saudis turned it down... considering that as mere weakness on part of Houthis... meanwhile they're bleeding and about to lose more territory in Yemen.
 
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Admittedly, I have been away from the Middle Eastern geopolitics for several weeks due to some recent exhaustive travels; still trying to understand whats going on in the region to the west of Pakistan. Here is my understanding after watching some videos, especially by the greats like Chas Freeman and Elijah Magnier:
The 'Saudis' attacked a plane landing in Sana (Yemen) which had an Iranian delegation but the Saudis denied that attack and I tend to believe they had no reason to re-ignite the hostilities with the Houthies. Maybe a false flag involving Israel? Maybe the pro Saudi faction/loose cannons did that attack? But the Houthies response has been too much to that despite the Saudi denial of the attack. The Iranians say they have no control over the Houthies but some reports say the Iranians asked the Houthies to escalate the war against Saudi Arabia, which the Houthies are obliging? And the rationale for the Iranians is that they don't want enough oil to flow out of the Middle East because that reduces Iran's leverage. Iran, for some understandable reasons, would rather burn down the region if Iran itself is getting burned down; it has become their survival strategy. And the Houthies are one of the tools in that strategy.

And sadly, the Houthies, like the Afghan Taliban, don't have much to lose and so are willing to lose it all. And the bottom line is that Iran has painted itself into a corner where it gets a lot of credit for Iran's standing up for the Palestinians but when does standing up for the 5-10 million Palestinians stand vs the interests of hundreds of millions of those whose lives are going to be destroyed in case of a regional war?

Good post brother and I hope you enjoyed your travels.

It's a complex situation and I respect your viewpoint. Interesting that you mentioned false flag. Recently, the Iranian FM stated that the Houthis did not attack the Saudi East-West pipeline and suggested it was a Zionist false flag to create greater tension.
But at this point, God knows what the reality is. However, this much I know is true....House of Saud has been attacking, oppressing and subjugating the Yemeni people for decades now. Millions have died or been displaced because of this Najdi aggression. Houthis are the popular uprising against foreign interference and oppression against the Yemeni so they have every right to self defence.
As I stated before, House of Saud created this quagmire on the orders of the Zionists. They and they alone can sort out the mess. Just don't expect Pakistani soldiers to fight their war is my only issue. I don't want Pakistani soldiers coming back in bodybags just because these Fat low IQ Sheikhs pumped up their ego with petrodollars.
As for the flow of oil, I filled up my tank yesterday and the bill was eye-watering. However, the world needs to understand that the free reign of Zionists to do whatever they want has to stop. Stop the aggression against Palestine/Yemen/Iran and others and everything gets back to normal. Otherwise, continue the Epstein empire and pay the price. This is unfortunately the new normal going forward and regrettably, prophecy teaches us that it's only going to get worse.
The ultimate question is, where does your heart stand and who do you side with? Is it the bloodsucking epsteins or the destitute fighting off oppression for their legitimate survival?
And when it comes to Palestinians, currently we have Israel exervating under and violating the sanctity of Al-Aqsa and gaining dominion over Jerusalem....a place millions died for during previous conquests. All the while, House of Saud is occupied killing it's fellow Muslims in alliance with those who Allah has forbidden us to make alliances with.
 
Admittedly, I have been away from the Middle Eastern geopolitics for several weeks due to some recent exhaustive travels; still trying to understand whats going on in the region to the west of Pakistan. Here is my understanding after watching some videos, especially by the greats like Chas Freeman and Elijah Magnier:
The 'Saudis' attacked a plane landing in Sana (Yemen) which had an Iranian delegation but the Saudis denied that attack and I tend to believe they had no reason to re-ignite the hostilities with the Houthies. Maybe a false flag involving Israel? Maybe the pro Saudi faction/loose cannons did that attack? But the Houthies response has been too much to that despite the Saudi denial of the attack. The Iranians say they have no control over the Houthies but some reports say the Iranians asked the Houthies to escalate the war against Saudi Arabia, which the Houthies are obliging? And the rationale for the Iranians is that they don't want enough oil to flow out of the Middle East because that reduces Iran's leverage. Iran, for some understandable reasons, would rather burn down the region if Iran itself is getting burned down; it has become their survival strategy. And the Houthies are one of the tools in that strategy.

And sadly, the Houthies, like the Afghan Taliban, don't have much to lose and so are willing to lose it all. And the bottom line is that Iran has painted itself into a corner where it gets a lot of credit for Iran's standing up for the Palestinians but when does standing up for the 5-10 million Palestinians stand vs the interests of hundreds of millions of those whose lives are going to be destroyed in case of a regional war?
Saudis did not attack the plane, they attacked the runway of the airport as a warning shot due to the Houthis bringing back Iranian military personnelle with them as they returned from the funeral service, which Saudis already told them previously that this is a red line and would be considered a provocation.

The plane just rerouted and landed elsewhere, it wasn't targeted or shot down. But Saudi's warnings didn't end up deterring anything, and I guess they were agitated about the IRGC being brought over for a good reason. Houthis started their campaign shortly afterwards, and they've been carrying it out through joint military operation rooms with the Iranians. So ya, they're just another useful proxy to carry out Iran's bidding and terrorism, like they do everywhere else.
 
Now all troll will cry that Pak Turkiye both countries are killing innocent people. they will play victim card
No, they would claim Pak/Turk are killing those resisting zios...which would be a valid claim.
 

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