How America’s Aircraft Carrier Crisis Reveals A Military Decline

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How America’s Aircraft Carrier Crisis Reveals A Military Decline​




America has 11 aircraft carriers. So why is the US Navy struggling to deploy more than three at once?These 100,000-ton floating airfields have long symbolised American military power. But delayed ships, lengthy repairs and overstretched crews are making it harder to keep them at sea. Does the carrier now reveal the limits of US military power?

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00:00 – America’s aircraft carrier problem
00:53 – Delayed ships and ageing carriers
02:24 – Trump’s proposed carrier redesign
03:25 – Longer deployments, greater strain
04:50 – The carrier gap in the Pacific
06:09 – The $25 billion carrier group at risk
07:30 – The cost to the wider fleet
08:38 – Shipyard decline and military power
 
American industrial capabilities is in severe decline. This eventually affects the military industrial complex. This is the primary reason why the Trump administration has given up on the pretense of a military conflict with China.
 

How America’s Aircraft Carrier Crisis Reveals A Military Decline​




America has 11 aircraft carriers. So why is the US Navy struggling to deploy more than three at once?These 100,000-ton floating airfields have long symbolised American military power. But delayed ships, lengthy repairs and overstretched crews are making it harder to keep them at sea. Does the carrier now reveal the limits of US military power?

Produced by Yasmin Butt

00:00 – America’s aircraft carrier problem
00:53 – Delayed ships and ageing carriers
02:24 – Trump’s proposed carrier redesign
03:25 – Longer deployments, greater strain
04:50 – The carrier gap in the Pacific
06:09 – The $25 billion carrier group at risk
07:30 – The cost to the wider fleet
08:38 – Shipyard decline and military power


The US Navy can surge 6 carrier groups during a major crisis.

CVN-79 Kennedy will deliver soon to the Navy. Ford carriers are now launching F-35Cs for the first time.



 
American industrial capabilities is in severe decline. This eventually affects the military industrial complex. This is the primary reason why the Trump administration has given up on the pretense of a military conflict with China.
Neither side wants a military conflict because it benefits no one. Besides, the US is only spending 3.5% of its GDP on defense. During the Cold War, it nearly spent 10%. So there's room to expand capacity if it's needed. Other than that, I find the OP to be silly.
 
American industrial capabilities is in severe decline. This eventually affects the military industrial complex. This is the primary reason why the Trump administration has given up on the pretense of a military conflict with China.

- Nearly 1,400 F-35s produced
- B-21 bomber in production
- First F-47 in production
- Columbia class sub in production
- DDG Burke’s being produced at a good clip
- SpaceX mass to orbit far exceeding anyone else in the world and that lead is about to expand significantly with Starship now operational
- $168B recently awarded for massive production expansion of the critical munitions portfolio

This “severe decline” is a total fantasy
 
Neither side wants a military conflict because it benefits no one. Besides, the US is only spending 3.5% of its GDP on defense. During the Cold War, it nearly spent 10%. So there's room to expand capacity if it's needed. Other than that, I find the OP to be silly.
It’s not a matter of what percentage of GDP you are using, it’s a matter of how efficiently you are using it and what your industrial capabilities are. China is an industrial Goliath and its manufacturing capabilities are extremely efficient and massive in scale. The US’s shipbuilding industry is a dwarf in comparison. This is why it’s impossible for the US to compete with China in terms of military production when we peer down the road in 10-20 years.
 
- Nearly 1,400 F-35s produced
- B-21 bomber in production
- First F-47 in production
- Columbia class sub in production
- DDG Burke’s being produced at a good clip
- SpaceX mass to orbit far exceeding anyone else in the world and that lead is about to expand significantly with Starship now operational
- $168B recently awarded for massive production expansion of the critical munitions portfolio

This “severe decline” is a total fantasy
F-35 production is the only thing impressive. And even that’s about to take a big hit as rare earth controls ramp up.

US naval procurement is in big trouble and even the navy admits that.
 
F-35 production is the only thing impressive. And even that’s about to take a big hit as rare earth controls ramp up.

US naval procurement is in big trouble and even the navy admits that.

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DDG 124, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, and 131. All of these are brand new destroyers. CVN 79 and LHA 8 will deliver next year.
 
It’s not a matter of what percentage of GDP you are using, it’s a matter of how efficiently you are using it and what your industrial capabilities are. China is an industrial Goliath and its manufacturing capabilities are extremely efficient and massive in scale. The US’s shipbuilding industry is a dwarf in comparison. This is why it’s impossible for the US to compete with China in terms of military production when we peer down the road in 10-20 years.
So China can build ships at a much faster rate than the US. Their quality is still in queston, as is their efficacy in battle. We shall see, I guess.

But what about the quality of its sailors and officers? Producing ships as fast as China, can it produce the same in its sailors and officers? All are very green. Lastly, there's tremendous lack of institutional experience China's nave has to to draw on compared to the US.
 
In spite of what a number of you here believe, when it comes to carrier operations, the US Navy has no peer. It will be years before the Chinese are able to operate at the level of what the US Navy operates at today.
 
It’s not a matter of what percentage of GDP you are using, it’s a matter of how efficiently you are using it and what your industrial capabilities are. China is an industrial Goliath and its manufacturing capabilities are extremely efficient and massive in scale. The US’s shipbuilding industry is a dwarf in comparison. This is why it’s impossible for the US to compete with China in terms of military production when we peer down the road in 10-20 years.

China is going to change the lane by completely dominating the ecosystem of the future green derivative high tech to fuel its AI self-replicating ecosystem. The US technocrats are panicking because they know once China has completely dominated the future ecosystem, all the remaining US technological leverage will be quickly vanishing as the mere temporary lead.
 
So China can build ships at a much faster rate than the US. Their quality is still in queston, as is their efficacy in battle. We shall see, I guess.

But what about the quality of its sailors and officers? Producing ships as fast as China, can it produce the same in its sailors and officers? All are very green. Lastly, there's tremendous lack of institutional experience China's nave has to to draw on compared to the US.

Those arguments are over-played and actually cope.

I think it's pretty clear that in all endeavors, China has displayed incredible discipline and it's military preparedness is no different. I am very sure if there is an actual combat situation, China will be ready to react in a very decisive and disciplined manner. There is no reason to doubt this at all.

You don't have to worry about Chinese competence. Worry about India.
 
The US Navy can surge 6 carrier groups during a major crisis.

CVN-79 Kennedy will deliver soon to the Navy. Ford carriers are now launching F-35Cs for the first time.




Correct. There are 3-4 carriers actively deployed and 2-3 in home ports conducting workups or training and under the enhance surge requirement it would take 30 days or more to get them out at sea. So the moment US ISR detects military movement and preparation from a certain country against a certain Island USN can have 6-7 carriers at AO within 60 days. I think 6-7 carriers is over kill 3 F-35C CVNs would do just fine.
 

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