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Even the Turks have had enough of the lazy Bedoins....

Why should we have to protect Saudi Arabia?Those guys are oil-richAmerica and Israel's best buddyThere's a serious economic crisis in our country, people can't pay their rent. While the public can't even afford a kilo of meat for home, why should we allocate a share from our budget for these people.We're going to go protect one of the richest countries in the world.The Yemeni people have been dying of starvation for 11 years because of these guys. We're supposed to join forces with them and partake in this oppression.It's beyond comprehension. Conscience and mercy wouldn't accept it anyway.



Nobody is coming to Saudis rescue. The low IQ bedouins with all the money in the world have brought this situation upon themselves.
 
Even the Turks have had enough of the lazy Bedoins....

Why should we have to protect Saudi Arabia?Those guys are oil-richAmerica and Israel's best buddyThere's a serious economic crisis in our country, people can't pay their rent. While the public can't even afford a kilo of meat for home, why should we allocate a share from our budget for these people.We're going to go protect one of the richest countries in the world.The Yemeni people have been dying of starvation for 11 years because of these guys. We're supposed to join forces with them and partake in this oppression.It's beyond comprehension. Conscience and mercy wouldn't accept it anyway.



Nobody is coming to Saudis rescue. The low IQ bedouins with all the money in the world have brought this situation upon themselves.


Are you reporting live from Yemen?
 
Parsa Khan? That's one unique Yemeni name.

Saudis have been quite merciful against Yemenis. Yemenis have some genocidal desires for Saudi Arabians.
What Houthi cavemen demanding control and security of Makkah all the saleries of Houthi soldier should be paid by KSA along with free electricity and other things.
Insane instead they will get what they deserve a straight H1 visa to hell
 
What Houthi cavemen demanding control and security of Makkah all the saleries of Houthi soldier should be paid by KSA along with free electricity and other things.
Insane instead they will get what they deserve a straight H1 visa to hell

Yemenis have failed themselves before anyone failed on them.
 
What you said is likely true. They have been lazy and no real combat experiences.

I also think China is very similar to Saudi Arabia as they have been living a life of luxury, profitable, money obsessions, business, gambling, and wealth, it will likely become lazy and have no real combat experience so far since 70 years ago during Korea wars.

North Korea will help China (soft panda) if necessary as they deployed their soldiers in Ukraine for valuable experiences along with Russia.
LOL. In fact, last century, China fought against the US in the 1950s and had a military clash with the Soviet Union on Zhenbao Island in the 1960s. To prepare for a nuclear war with the Soviets, we dug tunnels under half of China, and the grenades we produced back then still haven’t been used up. In the 1980s, we fought Vietnam and even rotated troops from all over the country to experience war. China has had only 36 years without any war.
PS: Sorry, I forgot to mention the war with India in the '70s because they were really weak, and most Chinese people don’t really remember it, so it’s easy to forget.

2. Inappropriate combat experience can actually harm you. If you fight rabbits for too long, you’ll lose the ability to fight bears. Chinese military experts believe that the US, having spent a long time fighting in the Middle East against lightly armed forces, has weakened its ability to wage war against superpowers. That’s why the US built junk like the Zumwalt and why its missile technology is far behind China’s.

3. You’re a bit right—being aware of potential threats helps a country survive, while indulging in comfort leads to its downfall. Our ancestors wrote an article called "《生于忧患,死于安乐》" in 300 BC to teach us this lesson. Every Chinese child has to learn this in school, as well as study the "Century of National Humiliation" in history class. If you understand China’s national anthem, its content is: "China is still in the most dangerous time and must always be ready to resist invasion with our lives."
Yes, Chinese people live a comfortable life. Many say that Chinese abroad are like a bunch of dodos, totally unaware of crime. But it’s a huge mistake to think they lack national awareness of potential threats. If you were surrounded by over a hundred US military bases, had hundreds of air combats with US fighter jets every year, and were constantly playing cat-and-mouse with submarines under the sea, you wouldn’t be sleeping well either.

4. The problem with the Saudi military isn’t just their luxurious, comfortable life or over-reliance on US protection. Japan, South Korea, and Singapore all have US bases and live comfortably as well. The real reason is that Saudi Arabia doesn’t want a strong military. Saudi Arabia is a state held together by loosely connected tribes—a backward political system that uses massive oil revenues to appease the tribes. A too-powerful army could threaten to overthrow the royal family.

5、Little Salman is an idiot. Saudi Arabia had already reached a peace agreement with Iran, which could have allowed it to gradually reduce its dependence on the US military and, relying on regional partners like Pakistan and Turkey, create a balanced deterrence against Iranian factions. With China's mediation, the region could remain relatively stable. He thought that if Iran were attacked by the US, the Houthis would weaken due to lack of support. He recklessly attacked the Houthis and ended up getting his ass kicked, just like Modi last year tried to destroy Pakistan with Rafale fighter jets. Now, if the Houthi issue isn't properly solved, Little Salman's rule could be affected, and he's even trying to drag Pakistan down with him. Saudi Arabia's dependence on the US military is deeper, and the hope for peace in the Middle East is even dimmer. Man, what can I say?
 
LOL. In fact, last century, China fought against the US in the 1950s and had a military clash with the Soviet Union on Zhenbao Island in the 1960s. To prepare for a nuclear war with the Soviets, we dug tunnels under half of China, and the grenades we produced back then still haven’t been used up. In the 1980s, we fought Vietnam and even rotated troops from all over the country to experience war. China has had only 36 years without any war.
PS: Sorry, I forgot to mention the war with India in the '70s because they were really weak, and most Chinese people don’t really remember it, so it’s easy to forget.

2. Inappropriate combat experience can actually harm you. If you fight rabbits for too long, you’ll lose the ability to fight bears. Chinese military experts believe that the US, having spent a long time fighting in the Middle East against lightly armed forces, has weakened its ability to wage war against superpowers. That’s why the US built junk like the Zumwalt and why its missile technology is far behind China’s.

3. You’re a bit right—being aware of potential threats helps a country survive, while indulging in comfort leads to its downfall. Our ancestors wrote an article called "《生于忧患,死于安乐》" in 300 BC to teach us this lesson. Every Chinese child has to learn this in school, as well as study the "Century of National Humiliation" in history class. If you understand China’s national anthem, its content is: "China is still in the most dangerous time and must always be ready to resist invasion with our lives."
Yes, Chinese people live a comfortable life. Many say that Chinese abroad are like a bunch of dodos, totally unaware of crime. But it’s a huge mistake to think they lack national awareness of potential threats. If you were surrounded by over a hundred US military bases, had hundreds of air combats with US fighter jets every year, and were constantly playing cat-and-mouse with submarines under the sea, you wouldn’t be sleeping well either.

4. The problem with the Saudi military isn’t just their luxurious, comfortable life or over-reliance on US protection. Japan, South Korea, and Singapore all have US bases and live comfortably as well. The real reason is that Saudi Arabia doesn’t want a strong military. Saudi Arabia is a state held together by loosely connected tribes—a backward political system that uses massive oil revenues to appease the tribes. A too-powerful army could threaten to overthrow the royal family.

5、Little Salman is an idiot. Saudi Arabia had already reached a peace agreement with Iran, which could have allowed it to gradually reduce its dependence on the US military and, relying on regional partners like Pakistan and Turkey, create a balanced deterrence against Iranian factions. With China's mediation, the region could remain relatively stable. He thought that if Iran were attacked by the US, the Houthis would weaken due to lack of support. He recklessly attacked the Houthis and ended up getting his ass kicked, just like Modi last year tried to destroy Pakistan with Rafale fighter jets. Now, if the Houthi issue isn't properly solved, Little Salman's rule could be affected, and he's even trying to drag Pakistan down with him. Saudi Arabia's dependence on the US military is deeper, and the hope for peace in the Middle East is even dimmer. Man, what can I say?
Ill only address 4 since the rest are nationalist focused.
The Saudi state might be tribal but the loose connection is based on a system they created which is not compromised at all by a strong military. Their succession is also based upon leaders of these various families/tribes actually validating their support to the ruler with various families having larger/stronger influence than the others - along with their own candidates for leadership.

That has nothing to do with the military's loyalty to the state but more so with the general tribal militia history of the military and the general lack of enforced discipline in that environment. While strides have been made to create a more cohesive narrative and the current generation of Saudis are starting to exhibit it - the "distribution" of wealth also has more to do with ensuring the welfare of its key "tribes".

Providing benefits and access to influential constituencies can help preserve their stake in the existing order. That is not necessarily evidence of weak loyalty but it may be part of how loyalty is maintained.

Next, MBS is no idiot - but no savant either. He has achieved a lot for Saudi Arabia's progress but at the same time overextended himself - many a times under poor advice from his "friends" and other individuals within the state.

Yemen has not overextended the Saudi state as much as extravagant investments at the hand of western consultants has. That has eaten into what would be an ok war chest and allow them to expend on replenishing interceptors and so on.

You are taking several different issues including tribes, allegiance, military discipline, and fiscal/geopolitical decisions but treating them as though they all prove the same thing. They do not.
 

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