Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[mythbuster]

#BREAKING the National Army advanced on #الحوثي from the Al-Jawf desert towards Sukk al-Yatmah market, and the advances were large

Supported by MDA....not saying MDA troops are on the ground.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I am not even understanding one bit of your confused statements.

You engage me, post a reference and try prove that iranian governments or shah was installed. Your rebuttal points to CIA's and MI6's involvement, but that was never my contention, I had said mosad was not part of it, it could not have been at that time.

Seriously, rebuttal or completing your correction?
Yours was a half truth, a partial statement... my side bias... obfuscation.
It wasn't Mossad but another agency.
It was not a rebuttal... it completed your post. However, since you assumed I'm coming over the top and clearly not onside to your point of view, you took it as such...

Yes, clearly... you were not understanding.

Then you go on into how US was okay with installing iranian mullahs rather than having Soviet influence in middle east. Which indirectly supports my assertion that iranian ayatullahs are a C team of zion and are in power because they have been blessed by US and play their part to benefit and support their causes. Plenty of evidence for that for the ones who haven't taken ayatullah's bayt.

Again a half truth... just a convenient half baked dump.

The first coup to remove Mossadegh and second to remove Shah... both had foreign meddling. The difference Mossadegh was popular and his aims were populist. Clearly Brits didn't like him nationalize oil. Second time around Shah was deeply unpopular and people revolted on their own unlike the previous instigated bout.

BOTH TIMES, western fears were a communist takeover. First that Mossadegh may take Iran into Soviet camp and second time, the revolution may install a communist regime.

In both instances, shah rule and subsequent Clerical rule, were assumed better alternatives to communism. An isolated perch.

However, all didn't go as planned. The earlier attempts to appropriate the regime sent mixed signals. Making Iranians apprehensive of US. Fearing another regime change attempt... which later US meddling cemented... having Iran build redundancies... eventhough attempts were made by both sides to come closer... that in spite of the fact that Iraq was used to hollow out or collapse or carve Iran... later sanctions regime made life even tougher and oil sales harder... assets frozen... scientists murdered, stuxnet, sabotage and finally now overt conflict.

In all that, the US bases and overt presence has been across the Gulf in the statlets to implement mideast policy. The regime changes and maritime regimes... financial and technological setup was and is all there...

All of these statelets though very recent have enjoyed unparalleled patronage... by all means... it hasn't been Iran the staging ground for all attacks across mideast.

You are trying to prove that somehow iran is fighting a holy war against zion.

How?
It is your inherent bias that blindsides you... because your faith kicks in...
It was why... trolls are using slang and pejoratives.
Because, they want to be onside to their beliefs first.

Tell me if Iran was communist and not clerical would you still support any fight it mounts against the empire?

To which I gave you real life examples of countries and the state they are in, only because zion felt they were a threat to them. If iran was fighting a holy war against zion it would have been destroyed by now.

Exactly!!!
You're waiting for the nukes to drop.
You don't believe enough has been done and US is holding back because it is just not possible for Iran to survive.
You wouldn't believe your lying eyes and listening ears to the contrary.
Ask anyone if the missiles that dropped on US bases were real or fake? Or was US using fake munitions.
Another thing if it were a religious conflict you'd still be on the wrong...
Just like Saudi clan was onside to British Empire working for the collapse Ottomans... remain the b team to collapse Iran and the rest of Mideast.
There is nothing in vacuum...
From all the fires they've stoked for the rise of zion.
Their house seeks only to them for continued rule.

iranians should be grateful and remain so for many coming decades that Pakistanis and Saudi with Turks showed some maturity and prevented the total destruction of iran. Saudis showed significant restraint and patience in not retaliating to iran's shameless provocations.

This is the funniest thing you said so far...

Quite the opposite in fact.
It is the Iranian restraint keeping things from collapsing. You'll see your lying eyes in coming days what I mean...
If Iranian critical civilian and commercial infrastructure was attacked they would have taken out the Gulfs. The hounds of hell are only watching from a distance because a solution doesn't exist.

Just for example, when zion attacked Iranian South Pars Gas field... your own zion did it to check if in fact Iran will retaliate... they took out Qatar’s gas field the next day

https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-us-israel-trump-march-18-2026-d7ca062ba1bf99d1f8dc00c8073cf10f

The Qatari fields will remain off line for years to come.

Here's the thing ask Saudis to join in, enough of the restraint... let loose.
I dare them!

You have no answers and wisdom just your misguided loyalty to iran, why because it has successfully fooled you into believing the utter nonsense that they are saviors of Islamic world and champions of the helpless Muslims.

I have no loyalty to Iran, nor am I Shi'i... your whole argument is one based on madkhali faith that Saudis invested hard to foment masses of drones.

PS: I am not one bit frustrated. I am clear in my understanding of persian aims, their intrigues. Unlike you, I do question why would persians want to support a region that was first conquered by a Caliph, whom they curse, hate and abuse the most.

And that is the crux of your argument. Which is not geopolitical at all...
It doesn't understand real world implications ... why zion needs or wants the collapse of Iran...

 

[Mobius]

Excellent.....

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

He did make a point. You also, perhaps without realising, made the same point. You now refuse to acknowledge it.

Again, obfuscation was cleared and no realizations were harmed...

Where do you think Khomeini was even hiding until he returned to Iran on an AIR FRANCE flight?

The point being?
Shah was vociferously anti communist but due to sentiment couldn't take on the religious establishment. Khomeini wasn't a revolutionary but had a theology...
French could care less for

Yes, the West gambled on shia clerics to fight off the Soviets, but the Shah wasn't doing that bad a job at fighting against then himself. There was a second use for the clerics - to keep Arabs and Persians fighting each other instead of Israel.

Funniest thing ever... tell me you don't know jack without telling me
...
The revolution was anti Shah...
Shah was going to fall regardless... question is, who'd replace him... and here the thumb of the empire helped tilt scales in favor. Though it could've gone clerical regardless... because they had the only unmolested voice in Iran.

This tactic should not come as a shock. Tel Aviv created Hamas to fight against the PLO.

Divide and rule... however, here... a religious and historical nation got stabilized...

I often berate these regional actors for falling for Israel's plot but it is equally plausible that some are happy to willingly play along.

None of the actors that play along are naive...

 

[Mobius]

#TheGiants were humiliated in this #round, frankly#it would've been better to stay #neutral #but they screwed themselves over and screwed even #theCause #theSouthern one, and they're still in the midst of #disasters

 

[Feroze]

Well the Houthis are nothing but trouble makers.

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan should militarily intervene in Yemen regardless of the trilateral agreement.

 

[Goenitz]

The Houthis are not here to stay that I can assure you

Yemen population surpasses the combined Gulf population.. how will you achieve their 'not here to stay' thing? keep in mind majority of Yemen's urban center is pro-houthis.

 

[mythbuster]

Again, obfuscation was cleared and no realizations were harmed...


The point being?
Shah was vociferously anti communist but due to sentiment couldn't take on the religious establishment. Khomeini wasn't a revolutionary but had a theology...
French could care less for


Funniest thing ever... tell me you don't know jack without telling me
...
The revolution was anti Shah...
Shah was going to fall regardless... question is, who'd replace him... and here the thumb of the empire helped tilt scales in favor. Though it could've gone clerical regardless... because they had the only unmolested voice in Iran.


Divide and rule... however, here... a religious and historical nation got stabilized...



None of the actors that play along are naive...

Your entire discourse is based on two opposites..
On the one hand you talk realpolitik and provide justifications , though unwittingly , for what the American , zio and Saudis were/are doing....then in a jiffy you turn around cover up for the Iranians with a garb of morality... morality was not a play on anyone's game plan and you fail to acknowledge that.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Gaddafi = Same guy who wanted to re-write the Holy Quran? wanted "an actual Muslim alliance"? Oh ok.......

I don’t believe that specific claim is true, but I’m not interested in arguing his personal religious beliefs/philosophy.

What I do want to point is that the strongest alliances are made between people, not ‘faiths’. That is why I used the term ‘Muslim alliance’ instead of ‘Islamic Alliance’. A shared faith ‘can’ allow for enough shared values to help build bridges between peoples as equals, but I think its quite obvious from global events that a common faith, by itself, is not enough.

 

[prothought]

Can you please tell us what Iran did against Zionists when these Zionists were butchering Gazans? How many missiles or drones they fired onto Israel during that genocide?

Please don't confuse that with Iranian missiles/drones fired onto Israel after Zionists actually later kicked the assh of Iranian mullahs.

Also, tell us how many missiles/drones Iranian mullahs fired on Israel when Israel was destroying Iran's terrorist Hezbollah proxy in Labanon?

Who is the actual traitor then? Iran or Arab states?

@clutch
Dude are you still sleeping or just cowardly ran away? You need to respond my above post.

 

[Hussain]

I don’t believe that specific claim is true, but I’m not interested in arguing his personal religious beliefs/philosophy.

His rant is available on youtube

What I do want to point is that the strongest alliances are made between people, not ‘faiths’. That is why I used the term ‘Muslim alliance’ instead of ‘Islamic Alliance’. A shared faith ‘can’ allow for enough shared values to help build bridges between peoples as equals, but I think its quite obvious from global events that a common faith, by itself, is not enough.

True, if they are sincere, and not politically point scoring

 

[retaxis]

Egypt must be suicidal if they want to send troops to yemen on behalf of saudi.

The suez canal is so narrow and houthis can block that shit up and **** up the entire world trade. Egypt Sisi has been given billions by GCC to rebuild and modernise its military but they got a weak point in the suez canal and america may even tell egypt not to get involved because blocking the suez canal affects everyone especially the Euros and Americans whom are rioting already

 

[prothought]

Stop flame baiting.

Iran is Pakistans neighbor. Arabs aren't your neighbors, neither they will be, nor will they consider you anything above a sub human. Iran is will always be closer to us genetically, culturally, linguistically than Arabs ever would be.

Except China ( with which our land connection is shoddy anw ), we have a beef with all of our neighbors. Time to realize we aren't a foreign colony anymore.

Yes, Iran is Pakistan's neighbor and Arabs are not. But Arabs have always supported Pakistan at every crisis that Pakistan faced.

Iran, on the other hand, has used every opportunity to attack and bleed Pakistan. The poodles of Iranian mullahs and their IRGC goons, in Iran and abroad alike, hate Pakistan. These poodles have proved to be more poisonous for Pakistan than even slumdogs.

BTW, terrorist IRGC and Hindutva RAW have developed a deep nexus against Pakistan.

 

[Leclerc]

Egypt must be suicidal if they want to send troops to yemen on behalf of saudi.

The suez canal is so narrow and houthis can block that shit up and **** up the entire world trade. Egypt Sisi has been given billions by GCC to rebuild and modernise its military but they got a weak point in the suez canal and america may even tell egypt not to get involved because blocking the suez canal affects everyone especially the Euros and Americans whom are rioting already

How popular is Sisi domestically? A war in a fellow Arab Muslim country won't be terribly popular with Egyptians, US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had mixed popularity in the US even though losses weren't great and the moral case was stronger than Egypt would have in Yemen.