Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

He did make a point. You also, perhaps without realising, made the same point. You now refuse to acknowledge it.

Again, obfuscation was cleared and no realizations were harmed...

Where do you think Khomeini was even hiding until he returned to Iran on an AIR FRANCE flight?

The point being?
Shah was vociferously anti communist but due to sentiment couldn't take on the religious establishment. Khomeini wasn't a revolutionary but had a theology...
French could care less for

Yes, the West gambled on shia clerics to fight off the Soviets, but the Shah wasn't doing that bad a job at fighting against then himself. There was a second use for the clerics - to keep Arabs and Persians fighting each other instead of Israel.

Funniest thing ever... tell me you don't know jack without telling me
...
The revolution was anti Shah...
Shah was going to fall regardless... question is, who'd replace him... and here the thumb of the empire helped tilt scales in favor. Though it could've gone clerical regardless... because they had the only unmolested voice in Iran.

This tactic should not come as a shock. Tel Aviv created Hamas to fight against the PLO.

Divide and rule... however, here... a religious and historical nation got stabilized...

I often berate these regional actors for falling for Israel's plot but it is equally plausible that some are happy to willingly play along.

None of the actors that play along are naive...

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan should militarily intervene in Yemen regardless of the trilateral agreement.

 

[Goenitz]

The Houthis are not here to stay that I can assure you

Yemen population surpasses the combined Gulf population.. how will you achieve their 'not here to stay' thing? keep in mind majority of Yemen's urban center is pro-houthis.

 

[mythbuster]

Again, obfuscation was cleared and no realizations were harmed...


The point being?
Shah was vociferously anti communist but due to sentiment couldn't take on the religious establishment. Khomeini wasn't a revolutionary but had a theology...
French could care less for


Funniest thing ever... tell me you don't know jack without telling me
...
The revolution was anti Shah...
Shah was going to fall regardless... question is, who'd replace him... and here the thumb of the empire helped tilt scales in favor. Though it could've gone clerical regardless... because they had the only unmolested voice in Iran.


Divide and rule... however, here... a religious and historical nation got stabilized...



None of the actors that play along are naive...

Your entire discourse is based on two opposites..
On the one hand you talk realpolitik and provide justifications , though unwittingly , for what the American , zio and Saudis were/are doing....then in a jiffy you turn around cover up for the Iranians with a garb of morality... morality was not a play on anyone's game plan and you fail to acknowledge that.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Gaddafi = Same guy who wanted to re-write the Holy Quran? wanted "an actual Muslim alliance"? Oh ok.......

I don’t believe that specific claim is true, but I’m not interested in arguing his personal religious beliefs/philosophy.

What I do want to point is that the strongest alliances are made between people, not ‘faiths’. That is why I used the term ‘Muslim alliance’ instead of ‘Islamic Alliance’. A shared faith ‘can’ allow for enough shared values to help build bridges between peoples as equals, but I think its quite obvious from global events that a common faith, by itself, is not enough.

 

[prothought]

Can you please tell us what Iran did against Zionists when these Zionists were butchering Gazans? How many missiles or drones they fired onto Israel during that genocide?

Please don't confuse that with Iranian missiles/drones fired onto Israel after Zionists actually later kicked the assh of Iranian mullahs.

Also, tell us how many missiles/drones Iranian mullahs fired on Israel when Israel was destroying Iran's terrorist Hezbollah proxy in Labanon?

Who is the actual traitor then? Iran or Arab states?

@clutch
Dude are you still sleeping or just cowardly ran away? You need to respond my above post.

 

[Hussain]

I don’t believe that specific claim is true, but I’m not interested in arguing his personal religious beliefs/philosophy.

His rant is available on youtube

What I do want to point is that the strongest alliances are made between people, not ‘faiths’. That is why I used the term ‘Muslim alliance’ instead of ‘Islamic Alliance’. A shared faith ‘can’ allow for enough shared values to help build bridges between peoples as equals, but I think its quite obvious from global events that a common faith, by itself, is not enough.

True, if they are sincere, and not politically point scoring

 

[retaxis]

Egypt must be suicidal if they want to send troops to yemen on behalf of saudi.

The suez canal is so narrow and houthis can block that shit up and **** up the entire world trade. Egypt Sisi has been given billions by GCC to rebuild and modernise its military but they got a weak point in the suez canal and america may even tell egypt not to get involved because blocking the suez canal affects everyone especially the Euros and Americans whom are rioting already

 

[prothought]

Stop flame baiting.

Iran is Pakistans neighbor. Arabs aren't your neighbors, neither they will be, nor will they consider you anything above a sub human. Iran is will always be closer to us genetically, culturally, linguistically than Arabs ever would be.

Except China ( with which our land connection is shoddy anw ), we have a beef with all of our neighbors. Time to realize we aren't a foreign colony anymore.

Yes, Iran is Pakistan's neighbor and Arabs are not. But Arabs have always supported Pakistan at every crisis that Pakistan faced.

Iran, on the other hand, has used every opportunity to attack and bleed Pakistan. The poodles of Iranian mullahs and their IRGC goons, in Iran and abroad alike, hate Pakistan. These poodles have proved to be more poisonous for Pakistan than even slumdogs.

BTW, terrorist IRGC and Hindutva RAW have developed a deep nexus against Pakistan.

 

[Leclerc]

Egypt must be suicidal if they want to send troops to yemen on behalf of saudi.

The suez canal is so narrow and houthis can block that shit up and **** up the entire world trade. Egypt Sisi has been given billions by GCC to rebuild and modernise its military but they got a weak point in the suez canal and america may even tell egypt not to get involved because blocking the suez canal affects everyone especially the Euros and Americans whom are rioting already

How popular is Sisi domestically? A war in a fellow Arab Muslim country won't be terribly popular with Egyptians, US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had mixed popularity in the US even though losses weren't great and the moral case was stronger than Egypt would have in Yemen.

 

[prothought]

Its hard time for all Muslims in the Region and in near Future too, due to only US/ Israel. We all Muslims are Brothers and its embarrassing to see all respected members are indulging in off topic religion issues. Kindly stay at the relevant topic.

While I agree with you in general, I would like you to ask Iranian lackies if they consider Arabs to be Muslims at all? I am sure your dreams will be shattered in no time.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

garb of morality

For example?

We live in real world. Things have consequences and that often is the ultimate justice.
Zion seeks to survive... by alliances, finances, deceit... whatever it takes... the conduits are many... each a fool considering himself too clever... only to be absorbed in layers.
Iran tried to come closer to the US... for it's part making themselves useful, not to be...

Because the greater goals are larger than small time deals... so they show up to burn at the altar.

 

[retaxis]

How popular is Sisi domestically? A war in a fellow Arab Muslim country won't be terribly popular with Egyptians, US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had mixed popularity in the US even though losses weren't great and the moral case was stronger than Egypt would have in Yemen.

He is a dictator but there seem to be a large amount of people whom are against him.

He also does have some genuine support too but if he screws up, he will end up like mubarak or gaddafi

 

[prothought]

KSA is a hostile entity to Iran. It hosts a massive number of American and western sensor systems, GBAD network and offensive systems. Haven't we seen how they were used to either attack Iran or track and shoot down Iranian projectiles headed to Israel during TP 1 & 2 Ops.

Afghanistan hosts TTP and all us Pakistanis have a blood feud with Afghanistan. Why not give Iran the same courtesy? I understand Pakistan has to take into account of it's massive remmitance income from GCC but blind sided support to KSA is destructive as Iran neighbors us not KSA. But I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

And yes that Irani strike into Pakistan was genuine dick move and I'm glad we gave them a sound punch.

The Saudi 'entity' is a sovereign state. If it 'hosts a massive number of American and western sensor systems, GBAD network and offensive systems' who gave you the right to challenge that? How can Irani mullahs or their poodles can attack Saudi Arabia for having sovereign policies?

You are just exposing your sick mentality. Shameful.

Don't use Taliban regime for a justification. Taliban terrorists are sending suicide bombers into Pakistan. Pakistan is justified to bust their assh in self defense. The case of Saudi-Iran animosity is totally different.

 

[prothought]

UK sending jets to protect Saudi Arabia from “small terrorist militia” in Yemen

Good. A welcome development. That shows the world is getting united against terrorists and their masters.