US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[RescueRanger]

A C130 operated by Pallas Aviation making a quick stop in the UK before returning to Germany... "Nothing to see here"



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[RescueRanger]

@AZ_HighCountry interesting call sign spotted over Jordan

 

[RescueRanger]

Relevant in context of present conflict and emerging threats within Europe and beyond:


This is very BIG development

 

[Yasser76]

Relevant in context of present conflict and emerging threats within Europe and beyond:


This is very BIG development

From what I know Typhoon has no air launched nukes and is not capable of it anyway, could this be RAF acting as force escort for French nuke detterence?

 

[RescueRanger]

From what I know Typhoon has no air launched nukes and is not capable of it anyway, could this be RAF acting as force escort for French nuke detterence?

Yes likely providing escort. This explains why there was a wedgetail flying earlier on track:

 

[Yasser76]

Yes likely providing escort. This explains why there was a wedgetail flying earlier on track:
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Shame UK only ordered 3 E-7s seems so short sighted. 4 minimum to keep one in the air 24/7, Ideally 7-8 so you can spare for other comittments

3 just gives you around 50% of a 24 hour period. Same issues with the F-35 buy.

only 48 planes in service right now having to cover conversion training, the two carriers and the RAF sqds. Joke.

 

[RescueRanger]

Shame UK only ordered 3 E-7s seems so short sighted. 4 minimum to keep one in the air 24/7, Ideally 7-8 so you can spare for other comittments

3 just gives you around 50% of a 24 hour period. Same issues with the F-35 buy.

only 48 planes in service right now having to cover conversion training, the two carriers and the RAF sqds. Joke.

It's not even the half of it. Apparently HMS Dragon was forced to RTB to port because "Dragon Fire" weapon system wasn't even installed on it when it was deployed to Red Sea a few months ago rendering her basically useless:

 

[Yasser76]

It's not even the half of it. Apparently HMS Dragon was forced to RTB to port because "Dragon Fire" weapon system wasn't even installed on it when it was deployed to Red Sea a few months ago rendering her basically useless:
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Just goes to show, PAF has it's faults but considering it's budgets, it has been a very very shrewd purchaser of equipment and excelled in organsing what little assets it has to make a solid big picture, to the point of losing relatively new aircraft like ZDK AEW and CN-235 as they were not getting the returns we were investing in them in terms of manpower, fuel, maintenance etc

A great example if the Erieye programme. Decent initial order, added to it over the years, enabled ourselves to repair the airframe and even install the radar to a standard SAAB certified. Purchased more normal SAAB 2000s so we can train pilots without wasting hours on the Erieyes and at the same time this training helps move men and equipment around Pakistan with teh added bonus of being a spares source for the Erieyes in an emergency. All this despite the attack at Kamra. Enabled the plane to link to US and Chinese jets

Now a fleet of 10 odd Erieyes and 5 regular SAAB 2000s. One of the biggest AEW fleets in the world.

Honestly, every time I think oof this programme I am in both awe of PAF planning and engineers and in wonder of how we got SAAB to be so helpful!

 

[RescueRanger]

Apparently US Space Force is deployed to CENCTOM.

Spotted on DVIDS[https://www.dvidshub.net/]

That patch belongs to the 4th Electromagnetic Warfare division (United States Space Force) they have a number of unique mission skills particularly jamming enemy satellites.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Just goes to show, PAF has it's faults but considering it's budgets, it has been a very very shrewd purchaser of equipment and excelled in organsing what little assets it has to make a solid big picture, to the point of losing relatively new aircraft like ZDK AEW and CN-235 as they were not getting the returns we were investing in them in terms of manpower, fuel, maintenance etc

A great example if the Erieye programme. Decent initial order, added to it over the years, enabled ourselves to repair the airframe and even install the radar to a standard SAAB certified. Purchased more normal SAAB 2000s so we can train pilots without wasting hours on the Erieyes and at the same time this training helps move men and equipment around Pakistan with teh added bonus of being a spares source for the Erieyes in an emergency. All this despite the attack at Kamra. Enabled the plane to link to US and Chinese jets

Now a fleet of 10 odd Erieyes and 5 regular SAAB 2000s. One of the biggest AEW fleets in the world.

Honestly, every time I think oof this programme I am in both awe of PAF planning and engineers and in wonder of how we got SAAB to be so helpful!

The Erieye purchase was one of the best purchases PAF made ever. Got in early, placed their faith in Saab's product and amply rewarded for it. And, Saab also has a debt of gratitude for demonstrating the performance of the Erieye in Sindoor, one that will have helped make the Globaleye a NATO standard product to replace the E3's.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Apparently US Space Force is deployed to CENCTOM.

Spotted on DVIDS[https://www.dvidshub.net/]
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That patch belongs to the 4th Electromagnetic Warfare division (United States Space Force) they have a number of unique mission skills particularly jamming enemy satellites.

The Americans had not really prepared for the last war, it was a rolling start once they figured out that taking out the leadership would not lead to iran's collapse.

This post has an interesting video of how the USA will go after the mosaic setup itself directly as they have figured out where it is based and how it operates etc.

Post in thread 'Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds'

Yesterday at 10:04 PM

> interesting video that suggests that the USA has used the time to work out all the command nodes of the mosaic doctrine that the USA will go after now. And that they didn’t do that planning for the last conflict but has prepared it now.

The professor suggests this new war(which will be longer than 3 days) will be a lot like Operation Rolling Thunder from the Vietnam war..

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Iran may not fight this new war as it did the last war, but nor will the USA.

 

[Yasser76]

The Erieye purchase was one of the best purchases PAF made ever. Got in early, placed their faith in Saab's product and amply rewarded for it. And, Saab also has a debt of gratitude for demonstrating the performance of the Erieye in Sindoor, one that will have helped make the Globaleye a NATO standard product to replace the E3's.

Yes, it was a great buy and such forward thinking knowing that a decent number would be essential. PAF knew we would need 2 in the air 24/7 during combat and 8-10 planes enables this.
SAAB have been amazing, am sure they opened up systems for Link 17 but I guess much of that will always be classified. Guess they knew IAF would never buy Gripen so nothing to lose

 

[lightning f57]

Relevant in context of present conflict and emerging threats within Europe and beyond:


This is very BIG development

As the world order falls apart with major powers like US, China and even Russia focusing on their own interests & backyard, middle powers are starting to band together more and more. We saw that with the defence pact between Turkiye, SA, Pak and similar re-alignment in Europe so there is less dependency on US protection. I think its the right move but I personally dont see Russia as a threat the way the political establishment here do.

 

[RescueRanger]

Breaking: Israel has issued full down due to incident in Hebron and activated emergency mobilisation of reservists.

 

[Yasser76]

Breaking: Israel has issued full down due to incident in Hebron and activated emergency mobilisation of reservists.

Those c**ts call out the reserves when an IDF captain gets a paper cut....