Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

What precedent did they have to blow up a consulate in a third party country?

No precedent was needed after 10/7. Even Hamas declared that the slain General was instrumental in Al Asqa flood plan. The man was one of the last of original group that built up HZ.

Nonetheless, why is IRGC sitting in a consulate room huddled together when Embassy is next door? If you want to escalate go sit in the embassy and really make Israel sweat the decision.

If not, then take OpSec seriously. There is no reason why Israel should know the time and meeting place of that many commanders. Nor is their any reason you should be sitting in a building that has that many eyes and ears on it at all times. I wouldn’t be surpised if there are cameras all outside the consulate and embassy monitoring who goes in and out operated by Israel and America. That’s just spy 101.

A country that can get away with killing more than 10k children, bombing schools, hospitals, killing doctors.

Saddam “got away it” (until he was hung by Iraqi tribunal)
Ghaddafi got away with it (until he got a knife up his ass)
Al-Saud family “got away with it” in Yemen
Imperial Japan got away with it in China
Russia got away with it in Grozny
Azeribajian got away with it in Armenia
Vietcong got away with it (America too) in Vietnam War
Etc. etc.

You act like Israel is first country to get away with war crimes. Happens all the time in history. Imperial Japan used to put a mother and her child into a burning contraception to see if the mother sacrifices herself first or uses the baby to shield her feet from the heat.

The only ones that pay are the weak that lose the war (Nazi Germany at Nuremberg).

You are wondering why Israel isn’t punished in a global order that it is a part of?

That is like a Roman gladiator wondering why the Collesum doesn’t play fair when he wins. Its laughable.

Uttering statements such as "There are no innocent people in Gaza." Can get away with targeting Iranian military inside Iran. I am sure the world wont mind.

The same way Iran got away with Armarco attack —> Israel gets away with sabotage and assassinations. Those are literally the spy v spy acts. They go back to antiquity.

If you are able to attack your opponent in a plausible deniable way then your opponent has to respond in a similar fashion.

Can you name another country whose weapons are actively being supplied to other groups with the intention of killing American and Israeli soldiers?

Is Russia doing this? No
Is China doing this? No
IS Venzenula doing this? No
Is North Korea doing this? No

Damn, then how Is Iran able to indirectly kill so many Israeli/American soldiers since 1980s? Guess America and israel are also weak like Iran for taking it all these years.

Iran literally transformed Hamas from a bottle rocket group throwing rocks, RPGs, and AK47s to a group that inflicted more casualties than any Arab country did since Yom Kipuur war. Hamas didn’t magically wake up one day and learn to make deadly drones, rockets, tunnel network, and anti tank missiles. Why didn’t Israel level Tehran for that? How weak are they that they let Hamas build a rocket arsenal of 25,000 rockets?

Iran has a role to play in this conflict. It’s not like Iran just decided to take a walk in Syria and is being unfairly targeted while sight seeing.

The only thing that denies them attacking Iranian soil is an effective deterrence. The kind of deterrence Lebanon gained after the Hezbollah-Israel war of 06. They respond to force, not empty threats.

That was deterrence that came with thousands of civilian casualties and Beirut destroyed. And only came because Iran supplied the weaponry and logistics to inflict severe damage on Israel. It was Iran and HZ that first kicked Israel out of South Lebanon and it was them who kept it from reoccurring in 2006.

As I said if Iran wants shadow war to stop it has to have a similar skirmish 1 v 1 with Israel. Only way you will make them stop is on the battlefield. I agree 100% with you here. Without a formal/informal agreement that can only come about from a UN ceasefire after a brief hot conflict (like in 2006), this shadow war will continue. That has been my biggest critic, this shadow war is draining resources from other branches of the military. Iran doesn’t have a 200B military budget. Everything destroyed needs money to be rebuilt. And Iran isn’t a nation of Santa’s Elves that can build everything for free and with magic.

We are showing weakness. We need to respond directly from Iranian soil. And not by launching a couple of BMs at useless targets.

What targets would you like to see hit that would equal those 7 individuals?

I will let you know such target doesn’t exist. IDF is mandatory military force, meaning they don’t operate in same way as IRGC. Nor do they have an IRGC-Quds force like division. Iran is only country in the world with a 2nd military (IRGC) who has its own military (Quds force) who by the way has its own foreign military (axis resistance groups).

It’s the reason why Pentagon war planners love simulating war with Iran. Iran is the only country on the planet with foreign legions numbering 200K+ there is simply no parallel in modern warfare to such an opponent.


Otherwise, the next time we will hear "There are no innocent people in Iran" "IRGC was hiding inside this and that school and hospital" etc. And the entire world will sit and watch, just like they did when Saddam gassed us.

Iran’s soil has not been targeted since the end of Iraq war. I’m not talking random gunmen or a quadcopter slamming into factory or a motorcycle bandit slapping a magnetic bomb on scientists car. I’m talking a nation directly striking Iranian soil overtly.

So I’m not sure why you think that this large scale bombing in Iran will occur. Or why you think Iran would sit idly by if it did.

Iran is building armies on Israel’s border. I don’t know what country on earth would accept that and just let it happen.

That being said, I think the time has come to end this shadow war and the only way to do that is by engaging in a hot conflict until Russia/China/US say enough and force both sides to go back to a Cold War.
 
I had to skim read the waffle and filibustering

If you do not want to understand the conflict in the scope of 40+ years of shadow war, then that’s on you. You focusing on a battle (consulate attack) and not the war, is textbook tunnel vision.

If you do not want to believe Iran has capability to strike from Syria, then that’s on you.

You are free to believe whatever you want.

Lastly, it’s strange for you to say I waffle: wasn’t I the one who was criticizing Iran the most in last 2 weeks while you and the rest of “everything is awesome” squad defended Iran tooth and nail?

Now suddenly everyone is ‘waffling’ onto my original position all along and I’m forced to play devils advocate for Iran.

Very strange turn of events.

In 72 hours we will all revisit this discussion and see if Iran pleased the people here. My guess is the answer will be no. And even though I won’t agree with the decision, I can see why Iran did what it did.
 
Both Yemeni missiles and drones have been completely blocked by Israel.
Needless to say, these weapons are made with Iranian technology.
It is no wonder that the Iranian leadership is trembling at the prospect of a counterattack that will not even result in a scratch and will only give the war-mad Netanyahu an excuse for more large-scale terrorism.
The existence of Iron Dome and Arrow allows Israel the freedom of terrorism, and conversely, Iran continues to pay the price for not having the technology to create a similar system with the blood of its generals.
 
If you do not want to understand the conflict in the scope of 40+ years of shadow war, then that’s on you. You focusing on a battle (consulate attack) and not the war, is textbook tunnel vision.

If you do not want to believe Iran has capability to strike from Syria, then that’s on you.

You are free to believe whatever you want.

Lastly, it’s strange for you to say I waffle: wasn’t I the one who was criticizing Iran the most in last 2 weeks while you and the rest of “everything is awesome” squad defended Iran tooth and nail?

Now suddenly everyone is ‘waffling’ onto my original position all along and I’m forced to play devils advocate for Iran.

Very strange turn of events.

In 72 hours we will all revisit this discussion and see if Iran pleased the people here. My guess is the answer will be no. And even though I won’t agree with the decision, I can see why Iran did what it did.

I dont need you to tell me how this fucking war started! I saw it from day one and I never even asked this. You obnoxiously filibuster and bring things up I never asked, most of which are your own opinions based on sweet bugger all! You clearly have your head so far up your backside that you didn't see my first message, and others since, where I said khak to sare hamashoon if they dont respond to this!

No Iran doesn't have the ability to hit Israel from Syria, otherwise it would have done so by now. Simple logic, which you don't understand, most likely out of your own khoorde shisheh. It's not about belief or what you say, it's about the evidence of it which there is none thus far. I may be proven wrong, but I seriously doubt it.
 
Both Yemeni missiles and drones have been completely blocked by Israel.
Needless to say, these weapons are made with Iranian technology.
It is no wonder that the Iranian leadership is trembling at the prospect of a counterattack that will not even result in a scratch and will only give the war-mad Netanyahu an excuse for more large-scale terrorism.
The existence of Iron Dome and Arrow allows Israel the freedom of terrorism, and conversely, Iran continues to pay the price for not having the technology to create a similar system with the blood of its generals.

Iran hasn't even launched its main arsenal at Israel to date. Again another trollish out of touch hate comment, veiled with the right things to say about "netanyahoo" this and "war mad terrorism" that.
 
destruction of the Hermes 900 spy drone of the Israeli army

by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon
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No Iran doesn't have the ability to hit Israel from Syria, otherwise it would have done so by now. Simple logic, which you don't understand.

Using your “simple logic”:

US doesn’t have the ability to hit Iran from [insert regional base - ie Diego Garcia] or else it would have done so by now.

Israel doesn’t have the ability to nuke Tehran. Or else it would have done so by now.

This idea that if you have the ability = you would 100% have done it…doesn’t make sense. It’s illogical and you know it.

War is more than the first order effect (ie the strike) its the 2nd and 3rd order that stops militaries. Or else Iran would have been attacked in 2003 when it’s soldiers wore metal helmets and it’s best air defense system was Hawk and it’s best missile couldn’t hit within 1500 meters of its intended target.

B-2 alongside prototype F-22s could have systemically demolished Iranian nuclear sites and returned home unscathed like John McCain and the Neocons wanted. Fordow didn’t exist either. So why didn’t US do it? By your logic it had the ability so it should have done it. But since it didn’t do it, it didn’t have the ability. Hogwash.

You say this:

Sad state of affairs. This needed a response whatever the drawbacks and concerns. If I were Israel right now, I would step up my attacks, see how far I would go.

But also say this:

Yes we would be in a much worse situation! Israel would have escalated without mercy and we would be in a regional war. Now I'm not against war against evil, but if the public arent on the side of the government and would behave treacherously/cowardly in an escalation with Israel, thus causing the potential downfall of IR, we would then have to take it back to those events which you called for retaliation and ask "was it worth it?".

And admit this:
You're clearly out of touch. Iranian public generally don't want Iran to start a war, you get a few of us who want a response while we're sat at home. But Iranians who've witnessed war don't want to go through that again. In addition, there is a great anti-government sentiment as it is in the big cities and they are mostly pro-western liberals. So whatever Iran does or doesn't do, nobody in Iran will be happy with the leadership.

You admit that there is no strike Iran can do to stop Israel AND at the same time avoid a 2006 like skirmish or worse regional war.

So it has nothing to do with ability (or lack thereof) to strike from Syria/Iraq/Atlantis/Mars and everything to do with what happens after.
 
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The next attack was much faster than expected.
In any case, this is a natural result of the Iranian government's policy of non-resistance.
There is no doubt that the focus of Israel and the United States will shift from now on to attacks on the Iranian mainland.
 
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This Israeli account with this bullshit

I believe Israelis' time is up.

They would get bamboozled. About time!
 
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Note the timing of these attacks- they happen in time when Iran must respond to Israeli strike on Iranian consulate in Syria and attack Israel.

There is no doubt that CIA and Mossad control groups like Jaish ul-Adl, ISIS-K and other pawns.

Remember Abdulmalek Riggi from Jundallah who was flying from Dubai to American base in Kyrgyzstan for getting money and instructions from the US.

America and Israel are the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world...

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so as the debate rages regarding the what will be the Iranian response

can we list down the options?

i think unanimously Iran will respond with SRBM and Loiter munitions. i have recently seen Isreali Hawk giving news conference with F15 at the back. so Isreal will use Airforces to respond back.

what can be the targets? if the proportionate response is planned by iran then any embassy in Africa? or ship at sea? what? atleast this what CBS saying

please discuss
 
Please note all movement of missile assets are compromised and all communications are 80% compromised.

Iranian response is stated at the end of Ramzan
 
Hezbollah fires 50 rockets into Israeli occupied Golan Heights

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Two Zionist settlers injured in resistance attack in occupied West Bank

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Hamas liquidates 4 IDF commando brigade terrorists in Khan Younis


The four were killed after gunmen who came out of a tunnel in a destroyed building opened fire at troops carrying out a patrol along the IDF’s logistics route in Khan Younis, according to an initial military probe. The operatives apparently managed to flee back into the tunnel.
 

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