US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

The SC said:
He was not ready for this war.. he was dragged to it and counted on Iraeli (false) assessments.. just like Bush in Iraq..
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yeah let him take it out on satanyahu.....it would be absolutely fine with the entire world if you ask me. It may even win trump some angry voters
 
The SC said:
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i think its crap that the proxies can do much this time around........i have a feeling the Arab gulf states are not going to sit idle this time and will retaliate if the irgc terrorists target innocent people in these countries, specially when theyre not involved in giving airspace for the attacks
 
PK781 said:
yeah let him take it out on satanyahu.....it would be absolutely fine with the entire world if you ask me. It may even win trump some angry voters
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Problem is certain countries in the region also goaded Trump into attacking Iran they also have buyers regret.

I will say this if they do really plan on attacking Iran it probably will be before Sunday still a chance to save Bibis “government weird the president of Israel 67 votes for Eisenkot as prime minister but he is going to wait till Sunday to announce it
 
Flotilla said:
Let me ask a question, was Irán a thread or Russia?.

Russia was able to reach at least Kiev in some weeks.

And worse all. Russia (thanks to Biden support) lost probably tens of thousands of troops not to mention hundreds (if not thousands) of armored vehicles.

Irán did not have neither serious Air Force, Navy or even Army to invade nobody.

Let's be honest, Trump was Putin's silver bullet to stop Pentagon and NATO Unity.

And the most probably outcome It is still to unveil. A NATO proof Russia hardened conventional Army at the North and Iranian nuclear powered country at the South of Asia.

And Biden did It... WTF!.
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Iran was/is using proxies in the middleeast for long time, thats wrong too on many fronts. So it was a threat as its actively trying to encircle Saudi Arabia from all sides using sectarian angle and proxies.....going against israel was/is understandable but even that has been very costly for Syria and Iraq and Lebanon and it didnt help much.

Russia had its own reasons and concerns due to NATO encroachment in ukraine.

When you start to piss other countries unnecessarily and meddle in their affairs, it doesnt end well and there are repercussions.......Iran will also pay the price for it and won't be spared.
 
PK781 said:
i think its crap that the proxies can do much this time around........i have a feeling the Arab gulf states are not going to sit idle this time and will retaliate if the irgc terrorists target innocent people in these countries, specially when theyre not involved in giving airspace for the attacks
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To be fair IRGC only targeted civilian infrastructure after American and Israeli forces targeted theirs like is said buyers regret we can’t keep blaming the Iranians for reacting to a situation
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Just stop ****ing around. Either get it over with or stop with the hesitation.

I'm tired of all this half-assed approach to fighting a war.

At this rate, my grandson may have an opportunity to go play over there. He's 17.
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The jerkoff likes to tout himself not being like Bush in nation building and bringing democracy (03 Iraq war) costing US trillions and in blood and in a way he is right but his arrogance of running a war cost him and his party catastrophically which could actually cost him his presidency because the knives from his fellow republican politicians have come out and they want blood.... his blood.

You and I, and I think a few others, were saying what a mistake it was to pause for negotiations when Orangeman had IRGC by the cojones and could have finished them off with striking strategic targets like energy/economic targets but he wanted that damn peace prize and to be known as the greatest negotiator. Even if Trump finishes the job and Iran history is going to judge his pause a complete blunder because of what it cost him.
 
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AZ_HighCountry said:
He got sucked into Israel's war.

By Israel.
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You ain’t lying brother this “war” is played out Iran isn’t collapsing with just airstrikes and unless Trump goes insane because of the election he’s not sending American troops and I don’t see Arab or Muslim nations sending a million or more troops to do his and bibis dirty work.
 
Shags202 said:
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You ain’t lying brother this “war” is played out Iran isn’t collapsing with just airstrikes and unless Trump goes insane because of the election he’s not sending American troops and I don’t see Arab or Muslim nations sending a million or more troops to do his and bibis dirty work.
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I'm going to be blunt. The region would much prefer the US to do the dirty work.

I'm just angry because we got sucked into a war by Israel for reasons we don't know. I've heard the "Iran's going to have a nuclear weapon by ......" argument for too many years. They still don't have one, do they?

Further, MAD is a real thing.

The election has set me off. Just today, or was it yesterday, I believe it was Hannity who once again played the tape of Hillary stating she would attack Iran if she were to become President.

John McCain, whom you all know I despise, pushed President Bush to attack Iran during OIF. He pushed very hard. He also worked in concert with Hillary to supply weapons to the Kurds who in turn were using them on everyone in the region.

No, we got sucked into this. One could speculate there are certain tapes of Trump peeing in the bed of a Russian hotel or there is dirt in the Epstein files that hasn't been made public that left him no choice. Whatever it is, the idea that Iran was close to developing and using a nuclear weapon is IMO highly speculative. And, as the world has seen for 47 years, Mossad has been very effective at dealing with Iran's nuclear ambitions.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
I'm going to be blunt. The region would much prefer the US to do the dirty work.

I'm just angry because we got sucked into a war by Israel for reasons we don't know. I've heard the "Iran's going to have a nuclear weapon by ......" argument for too many years. They still don't have one, do they?

Further, MAD is a real thing.

The election has set me off. Just today, or was it yesterday, I believe it was Hannity who once again played the tape of Hillary stating she would attack Iran if she were to become President.

John McCain, whom you all know I despise, pushed President Bush to attack Iran during OIF. He pushed very hard. He also worked in concert with Hillary to supply weapons to the Kurds who in turn were using them on everyone in the region.

No, we got sucked into this. One could speculate there are certain tapes of Trump peeing in the bed of a Russian hotel or there is dirt in the Epstein files that hasn't been made public that left him no choice. Whatever it is, the idea that Iran was close to developing and using a nuclear weapon is IMO highly speculative. And, as the world has seen for 47 years, Mossad has been very effective at dealing with Iran's nuclear ambitions.
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Well I get your mad and like I said it’s played out this war and the only thing that is actually certain about this war things have changed but not for the better…..night….kept it short and sweet
 
Iran is still highly infiltrated by mossad doubleagents, and its not just the iranian citizens but also indian and afghan agents too, as its been proven. Irgc has been keeping and feeding proxies in the middleEast who did not do much and now faced the wrath of israel in lebanon, syria, iraq and in Gaza.
Now they're creating problems for everyone.......and when u are troublemaker for many, eventually you will be put in place

If or when the American military decides to resume the war, as AZ has said, it would be comprehensive this time and iran will truly feel some pain. Their shitgames in middleEast are no longer going to be tolerated by the GCC countries. And if they going to try and drag Pakistan into it, it may not end well for them bcaz then it would escalate really bad and Shit will hit the fan.

@RescueRanger , what's the latest vibes in the area bro?
 

How Democrats Can Stop the Iran War Now​

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How Democrats can stop the Iran War now

Congress now has multiple options for constraining President Trump's war-making powers. Will it use any of them?
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