Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[battalion25]

Saudi backed PLC proxies have made some advances

Suriyak map SMH

 

[Falcon29]

Don't think he's Arab. And everyone sees the game being played, no one is under any different illusion, you don't need to be a genius to see what's clear as day.

The hope is that the Mecca pact will offer a third option for the Saudis to take in order to both save them from the bind they currently face, and not fall for the trap that's been set for them by both sides.

I know him from a previous place let's just say

I agree most people see it and many Saudi commentators do. But there has to be tangible progress towards taking the initiative to secure their interests and not see Mecca Alliance as making them untouchable or persuade the US to continue a blockade/strikes on Iran. Why?

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Mecca alliance doesn't make them untouchable. Pakistan and Turkey will be tough on Iran to maintain peace but also they don't need Iran in a crisis and having to be the passage for aid to reach Iranians if Trump attacks powerplants and more. And to provide power for Iranians, or even take in Iranians as refugees. Pakistan has no interest in this and Saudis need to understand that the pact is to help them get on their own two feet and not to become arrogant and feel untouchable, while making zero progress on actually being able to defend their interests. One simple point about that is can the Saudi Navy escort their oil tankers once US Navy withdraws from the Gulf and stops doing the escorting itself? If no, then they aren't taking concrete steps for post war Iran reality.

Ideally Mecca alliance will deter Iran from targeting Saudis and Gulf states but also provide Iran incentive not to. And also lay down frame work to end this ever lasting feud in the region that Mullahs keep igniting then demand other Muslim parties to rescue them from

 

[Falcon29]

Houthi's didn't act out of nowhere. It's likely Iran wanted them to make this move at this time to reignite another headache for Gulf nations that they can't ignore. Houthi's +Iraqis attacks on Saudi Arabia are intended to demonstrate what they can do to Saudi Arabia and that they can up the ante in the event US attacks Iran (even more so if Iran joins in as a party to the attacks ).

It's meant to delay any renewed attacks on Iran. And so far it's working. Collapse of Yemeni opposition would be a secondary bonus for Houthi's but not the main objective if it doesn't happen.

 

[Shags202]

Don't think he's Arab. And everyone sees the game being played, no one is under any different illusion, you don't need to be a genius to see what's clear as day.

The hope is that the Mecca pact will offer a third option for the Saudis to take in order to both save them from the bind they currently face, and not fall for the trap that's been set for them by both sides.

If he’s Arab or not just cringeworthy especially when he talks about keyboard warriors and getting unverified sources from twitter or propaganda sites me and you don’t agree on half the things but we can discuss things honestly I’m not the smartest guy here but I’m definitely not ignorant night

 

[Haz]

If he’s Arab or not just cringeworthy especially when he talks about keyboard warriors and getting unverified sources from twitter or propaganda sites me and you don’t agree on half the things but we can discuss things honestly I’m not the smartest guy here but I’m definitely not ignorant night

Nuance, skepticism and prioritizing objectively is always warranted in such complex situations, we can both agree on that. That's all I'll say.

Bas ana ma'ak habibi

 

[Shags202]

Nuance, skepticism and prioritizing objectively is always warranted in such complex situations, we can both agree on that. That's all I'll say.

Bas ana ma'ak habibi

Nuance, skepticism and prioritizing objectively is always warranted in such complex situations, we can both agree on that. That's all I'll say.

Bas ana ma'ak habibi

Is it bad I understand Arabic in English

 

[Haz]

I know him from a previous place let's just say

I agree most people see it and many Saudi commentators do. But there has to be tangible progress towards taking the initiative to secure their interests and not see Mecca Alliance as making them untouchable or persuade the US to continue a blockade/strikes on Iran. Why?

:
Mecca alliance doesn't make them untouchable. Pakistan and Turkey will be tough on Iran to maintain peace but also they don't need Iran in a crisis and having to be the passage for aid to reach Iranians if Trump attacks powerplants and more. And to provide power for Iranians, or even take in Iranians as refugees. Pakistan has no interest in this and Saudis need to understand that the pact is to help them get on their own two feet and not to become arrogant and feel untouchable, while making zero progress on actually being able to defend their interests. One simple point about that is can the Saudi Navy escort their oil tankers once US Navy withdraws from the Gulf and stops doing the escorting itself? If no, then they aren't taking concrete steps for post war Iran reality.

Ideally Mecca alliance will deter Iran from targeting Saudis and Gulf states but also provide Iran incentive not to. And also lay down frame work to end this ever lasting feud in the region that Mullahs keep igniting then demand other Muslim parties to rescue them from

It will take time for the Mecca pact to actually show if it can make enough of a difference for the Saudis to consider it as a viable long term hedge against future Iranian threats, and enough of an assurance to draw them away from falling into Zionist arms just to save themselves.

Right now though I think the most immediate worry for them is to contain and neutralize the Houthi/Iranian threat at their doorsteps. If it does actually help alleviate this fear, it would be a good first step.

Iran itself and the SOH is more of a long term concern, it remains to be seen how that will be handled and whether the Pact members can deter any future Iranian belligerence once this conflict is settled, which I think it will soon with some sort of an agreement followed by an uneasy peace for the next little while. Too hard to tell right now how the main conflict will play out, but Saudi's concerns and priority I think will be the Houthis for now. They definitely need to get their shit together and learn how to defend their interests on their own at some point though, or it will eventually cost them no doubt. Hope this current situation has been an eye opener for them and they'll adjust accordingly.