Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

JD Vance, the hindustanized ivy law grad is chasing Rezaie to make ,sorry, manipulate a deal(for America) with him, but PDFers still believes that means US is winning the war? Why is US so pressed for a negotiation with Iran to end the hostilities? US never had ground forces to use and now US doesn't have an airforce to use against Iran? Let's keep watching - US and Iran have never "danced" like this before.

 

[kobra]

Israil can start the war on its own just like last year 12 days war hoping to drag US with him again amid expecting the same result/response by Iran. They will take out military and civil leadership again. While bombing the nuclear and energy facilities.
Natanyahu and Trump cannot digest this stalemate.

All depends on Iranian response/preemtive strike

 

[Immortals]

Where are all the individuals who thought they could replace the dollar?

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Mero]

Iran lost the war. Enjoy the forever blockade you idiots.

This exactly why you DONT STOP A WAR until their is a signed verifiable agreement. Not a ceasefire. Not an MoU.

Now you are just stuck in no man’s land with no war and no peace. You have no agreement nor a credible way to achieve your objectives.

Let Israel off the hook after 30 days as soon as their interceptors were running low. Did the same thing in 12 day war. Clearly there are Iranian politicians sympathetic to Israel in power centers inside Iran.

Iran made the mistake in not using their drones early until they had no more drones and targets.

Israel was warning that Israel could nuke Iran if Iran made mincemeat of Israel in missile strikes.

Iran has limited supply of ballistic missiles.

trump was threatening civilization destruction and Iran was not given economic/military relief by either China or Russia. That was when both should have intervened in breaking sanctions.

Iran's objectives were get a peace deal that lifts economic sanctions and sanctions in general.

Events can change in January. War or no peace and no war both could benefit Iran until then.

Iran can build a nuke, ICBMs to respond to blockade.

 

[retaxis]

In the end iran was playing 5d chess while america was eating the chessboard

Iran drew the red line of sinking the petrodollar along with gcc if they are attacked hard and america backed off

Iran still collecting all those fees from transit in strait of hormuz as well

Even iranian satellite groups like houthis, hezbollah, pmf Iraq are regrouping and constantly changing and adapting their tactics.

Usa wanted regime change and destruction of all Iran ballistic missiles but got outplayed by a country with 1% of their defence budget.

 

[gangsta_rap]

I think the long game that Iran is playing makes total sense. Think of how the region will look like in 2 decades from now. The US' influence will recede by default as it loses it's status as the world's sole superpower.
Combine that with intense frustration over Israel and the 'Epstein class' among the public in the west. The AIPAC lobbies will no longer hold sway over US decision making by then.
And to add to it the regional aspirations of other Mid-East countries (i.e. Turkey) who are in a collision course with Israel.

2040s might see an ultimate dismantling of Israel as a country

 

[HERO]

Iran can fight while negotiating, but it must use fighting to force talks, not take hits to beg for talks.

Does anyone really think the U.S. can blockade Iran indefinitely? That’s unrealistic and shows no broader strategic vision.

 

[retaxis]

I think the long game that Iran is playing makes total sense. Think of how the region will look like in 2 decades from now. The US' influence will recede by default as it loses it's status as the world's sole superpower.
Combine that with intense frustration over Israel and the 'Epstein class' among the public in the west. The AIPAC lobbies will no longer hold sway over US decision making by then.
And to add to it the regional aspirations of other Mid-East countries (i.e. Turkey) who are in a collision course with Israel.

2040s might see an ultimate dismantling of Israel as a country

The US will collapse from the inside and not due to external forces in the end. Their withdraw will be due to the eroding middle class and billionaires making bank while the average american is living it tough.

In the end this will cause them to withdraw militarily across the world under a democrat leadership when all the old white ignorant neo cons are dead and gone and we have a diverse leadership.