Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Afghanistan isn't under siege like Iran. And it doesn't have 90 million mouths to feed.

Iran cannot import even raw materials for medicine now. Where do you think this will lead to?

What? Come on. Cool down and reassess this tomorrow.

Even now, it won't happen. They're begging the US to sign a deal and are willing to allow the IAEA inspectors to visit Natanz and Fordow in exchange for $6 billion. That's how pathetic we have become that we need to beg the US for $6-$10 billion of our own money, which isn't even enough for 6-7 months of our imports. Meanwhile, the IAEA continues to visit the Bushehr nuclear reactor as we speak.

I can guarantee you, and I will right here promise everyone that if I were wrong about this, I would leave the forum permanently:
Even after Iran is attacked again, Iran will not build nuclear weapons. Let this stay here and I will see if I'm going to be proven wrong or not.

I think there will come a time when the IRI retards are finally convinced they have to build a nuclear weapon, but that will be after all of our best scientists have been killed and our nuclear facilities and infrastructure destroyed (this is probably already the case, and explains why the IRI pretends we don't need a nuclear weapon - because we can't build it now even if we wanted to).

The core problem is the complete paralysis within the IRI chain of command. They are freakishly slow to react to everything. And never do anything proactively. Sometimes they lie and say we have a new offensive proactive doctrine. Then continue to absorb strikes without responding. You cannot build nuclear weapons in that environment when your enemies are 10 steps ahead while you take 17 hours to decide whether and how to respond when the enemy kills your best generals and scientists in an attack that everyone and their uncle saw coming for months.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[ShapurII]

What? Come on. Cool down and reassess this tomorrow.

Tell me what I am supposed to reassess exactly?
Iran is under a naval blockade. And soon a land blockade. The US has created a task force for this purpose exactly. After that, a no-fly zone will be established, which is the easiest part because we don't have an air force and even after the war, we had to ask the Pakistani Air Force to escort our negotiators.

Iraq shut down another one of its borders with Iran today.
Pakistan has already shut down its borders with Iran. All of our Arab neighbors want Iran to fall and are actively spending money for that. Baku has shut down its borders with Iran. Our border with Armenia has been partially occupied since the Karabakh war, to which Khamenei responded by supporting Baku. Turkmenistan has closed its airspace and border with Iran.

Only Afghanistan and Turkey are left. Afghanistan imports stuff from us, instead of exporting things to us. And Turkey might decide to follow the US sanctions down the road.

What part of what I say needs reassessment? The US plans to cut our trade with Russia through the Caspian Sea as well. Iran Air said India didn't allow them to carry raw materials for our pharmaceutical industry. I think you are aware of that, but do I need to show you a source for this, if you don't know this?

I think there will come a time when the IRI retards are finally convinced they have to build a nuclear weapon, but that will be after all of our best scientists have been killed and our nuclear facilities and infrastructure destroyed (this is probably already the case, and explains why the IRI pretends we don't need a nuclear weapon - because we can't build it now even if we wanted to).

All of our best nuclear scientists have been killed already. It started in 2005 and was completed in 2025. Well, at least the ones that the IRI could trust. It's easy to train a nuclear scientist/engineer, but it's hard to find a scientist/engineer that the IRI can trust. The IRI is not a normal regime where average Iranian citizens are eager to work with.

First of all, it has a radical Islamic ideology that you must follow if you want to get employed by them. Secondly, wages are extremely low, and the risk of getting assassinated is extremely high. Who wants to work with such a system in such a hostile environment?

The core problem is the complete paralysis within the IRI chain of command. They are freakishly slow to react to everything. And never do anything proactively. Sometimes they lie and say we have a new offensive proactive doctrine. Then continue to absorb strikes without responding. You cannot build nuclear weapons in that environment when your enemies are 10 steps ahead and do not take 17 hours to decide whether and how to respond when the enemy kills your best generals and scientists.

It's been like this as far as I can remember. It's been like this since 2013 when Iran signed the JCPOA.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

how long did this take? what price did we have to pay before this happened? it has not even happened yet.

does it seem like a good sign to you that things move this slowly and reluctantly even when the country faces existential threats? The IRI is unfortunately broken and the officials are incompetent beyond belief.

Back in 1392, people made the mistake of electing Rouhani, Khatami’s right-hand man.

And in 1403, they repeated the same damn mistake, blindly following the disastrous political legacy of Khatami, Rouhani, and Rafsanjani by electing yet another reformist fool: Pezeshkian.

Had Jalili or any other hardliner been elected, the situation would have been 180 degrees different.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Leclerc]

The core problem is the complete paralysis within the IRI chain of command. They are freakishly slow to react to everything. And never do anything proactively. Sometimes they lie and say we have a new offensive proactive doctrine. Then continue to absorb strikes without responding. You cannot build nuclear weapons in that environment when your enemies are 10 steps ahead while you take 17 hours to decide whether and how to respond when the enemy kills your best generals and scientists in an attack that everyone and their uncle saw coming for months.

Why is that the case and when did that problem start appearing in Iran? Is is something recent that only appeared in the last 5-10 years or a longstanding issue in Iran present since say, 1990s?

 

[ShapurII]

Had Jalili or any other hardliner been elected, the situation would have been 180 degrees different.

How was the situation different when Raeesi was the President?

Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran happened when Raeesi was the president. What did Iran do? Waste 100 missiles, none of which killed a single Israeli.

Did Iran rebuild the IR-40 reactor when Raeesi returned? Did Iran increase its uranium enrichment to 190,000 SWU as the parliament had required the government to do? Did Iran use God's given opportunity of having sleepy Joe in the US to build nukes?

It's always been the same. Ahmadinejad was the only anomaly in the system and the regime didn't allow him to run for the president again.

 

[Immortals]

‎Closing the Strait of Hormuz is no longer possible by firing on oil tankers

‎The UAE has taken on all the risks of using the “southern route,” bought countries’ oil at a $30 discount, and is sending it through the strait in convoys.
‎On top of that, it has made $70 billion in profit

‎Sinking one or two tankers from a convoy doesn’t cost the UAE much


Wow it only took these imbeciles 6 months to realize something a normal person figured out in July.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

How was the situation different when Raeesi was the President?

Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran happened when Raeesi was the president

You don't even know the timeline

That time pezeshkian was president

During Raisi' presidency we launched true promise 1 just because israel struck a building nearby Iranian embassy and ended 8 years of not responding cycle while zionists didn't expect it at all

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[ShapurII]

You don't even know the timeline

That time pezeshkian was president

During Raisi' presidency we launched true promise 1 just because israel struck a building nearby Iranian embassy and ended 8 years of not responding cycle while zionists didn't expect it at all

No, Raeesi was the president.

The parliament passed the bill in 2019 when Rohani was still the president. Raeesi had 3 years to implement it and he didn't do jackshit.

Yeah, and True Promise 1 is the reason that Israel realized Iran couldn't hit even a single target in Israel with precision and kill even a single IDF soldier on duty. That's when Israel realized it could attack Iran with impunity.

 

[Flotilla]

this is too defeatist. Iran is far from famine. Afghanistan is not even in a famine.

Not to mention enriched uranium It is still inside Irán.
It is US who wants to attack in the coming days. Sustaining a blockade of 21.000 sailors to keep oíl low price It is a suicide from a budgetary point of view.

 

[Flotilla]

Maybe he fleed because of the anger of their people. Guess what would texans make him if they get in a grocery in San Antonio.

 

[KingQamaR]

I see you're spreading disinformation and falsehood again, kiddo.

After so many months in the war Iran have not sank a single US Carrier or warship .. But hitting Same old targets over and over again. All the carrier groups are floating bases they should be going for them instead, And sadly iran have not destroyed them.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

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