PAF Conducts successful test of indigenously developed FAAZ BVRAAM

[Ali_Baba]

For that 180km range, the basic principle is same.

Fire FAAZ towards the target location without locking it, send updates via datalink for path correction, then the IIR camera sees a high-resolution, two-dimensional thermal image.

The missile’s onboard computer runs image-processing algorithms to isolate the aircraft's silhouette from the background sky, clouds, or ground clutter. Once it locks onto that shape, the data link from the launching jet shuts down. The missile is now completely autonomous and locks onto aircraft heat silhouette.

IIR seeker sees the shape of aircraft so unlike AIm-9, it cannot be fooled by flares.

Very good image that describes the difference between IR and IIR and why the FAAZ is such a "game changer".. ie the silhouette image.

 

[mythbuster]

more apt example would be India raising its hands just after two days of pummelling

Next time instead of raising their hands they will drop their pants.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Ofcourse it will, but the missile would be equally as effective if its original developers would have been given their due credit.

So why the song and dance of claiming foriegn weapons as indigenously developed.
Some wierd rivalry you guys have with India.
Or is something that you guys want to prove to your people?

Should I say your ASTRA series of BVR is based on Russian airframe and Israeli RF seeker and EU electronics, don't spew nonsense and crap for our product if you know nothing shit about it

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You are most welcome to belive what you want to. If it makes you proud of your companies like GIDS and NESCOM.

I mean most of you still believe that JF 17 was jointly developed by Pakistan and China.

But even after developing such a successful fighter in such a short duration, you had to shelve PFX.

Should I say your Teja bhai is miniature version of Mirage 4000 or Should I say have a striking similarity with cancelled South African project Atlas CARVAR, look yourself





And can I list you how many parts and components are foreign made in your out of this universe Teja bhai aka samosa?


1= design is French or SA

2= composite comes from various EU countries

3= radar from Israel

4= fly-by-wire system tested and developed by Lockheed Martin on their F-16 VISTA in mid 90s (you only able to refine the system after sanctions because design remain same)

5= landing gears from Boeing

6= avionics from Israel/French and some Indian (mission computer)

7= weapons from France/Israel/Russian and some Indian

8= Engine from USA

So, tell me What is YOURS in you out of this universe Teja bhai AKA samosa?

 

[altafahmed]

in that case it should be named .- AADAAB

I would vote for JNAB.

 

[Michael]

Any knowledgeable person can tell the difference bw dual thrust and dual pulse motors?

In the fields of launch vehicles and missiles, it is very common—due to a variety of factors—to employ multiple engines, whether of the same or different types, arranged in a series configuration.
For instance:
Launch vehicles often utilize a series of different rocket engines to accommodate the varying conditions encountered throughout their flight into space.
Missiles frequently employ multi-stage engine configurations to meet specific tactical requirements.
A key feature of these systems is the use of explosive bolts for structural connection. Once a given stage has completed its operation, the explosive bolts are detonated, allowing that stage—along with its propulsion system—to detach from the main body of the vehicle.
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In the realm of military missiles, liquid-propellant rocket engines are less than ideal because the fueling process is time-consuming—a drawback that runs counter to the requirement for rapid response. Consequently, solid-propellant rocket engines are preferred for military missiles. (It should be noted that some intercontinental ballistic missiles—ICBMs—still utilize liquid-propellant engines.)

However, solid-fuel rocket engines have one critical limitation: once they begin operating, they cannot be controlled or interrupted; they must continue running until all their fuel has been completely consumed. This represents the most significant, fundamental difference between them and liquid-fuel rocket engines, which can be shut down and reignited at any time.

Clearly, ingenious humans have devised methods to address this challenge.

They designed a component—a partition—placed between two segments of solid rocket fuel. A key feature of this component is its ability to withstand extreme heat and pressure while the first segment of fuel burns, ensuring that the second segment remains unignited.

Once the first segment has finished burning, the missile continues its flight via inertia. Upon reaching the intended position, the system triggers the ignition of the second segment of solid fuel. The entire device partition will be instantly destroyed, turning into dust, which will be ejected from the engine body along with the fuel. ------ The central dividing device is the biggest technical challenge.

This is a dual-pulse solid rocket motor. It is, in fact, a single motor—not two motors connected in series—in which the solid propellant is consumed in two separate, controlled ignition-and-combustion phases. (There are now even triple-pulse solid rocket motors.)

BTW,
This is not a technology pioneered by the Chinese. In fact, the United States possessed this technology long ago. The crux of the issue is that the Americans have been unable to miniaturize it sufficiently for use in beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air missiles (AAMs). This is the primary reason why their BVR AAMs lag behind China’s.

 

[Cipher212]

Ofcourse it will, but the missile would be equally as effective if its original developers would have been given their due credit.

So why the song and dance of claiming foriegn weapons as indigenously developed.
Some wierd rivalry you guys have with India.
Or is something that you guys want to prove to your people?

You Indians just don't get it. This is not a science fair competition. There is no prize for a missile that is fully designed by a Pakistani engineer vs a Chinese one.

The only thing that matters with this FAAZ or any other weapon we produce locally....is that we produce it LOCALLY. Which means that we can fire dozens of them in a single skirmish and not worry about getting MORE. That is what makes the weapon OURS. We get to produce it however we want, we get to modify it to our needs. Oh and this is me assuming for arguement sakes that its a total copy, which it clearly isn't.

That is all that matters. We don't give a rats ass if all our weapons are reskins of Chinese ones. As long as we have the ToT and we can make them quick and cheaper at home, we will fire them at you.

And when they crash into your Rafales, no one will say. "Haha, copy missile se maara!"

 

[Thinking_Hard]

You Indians just don't get it. This is not a science fair competition. There is no prize for a missile that is fully designed by a Pakistani engineer vs a Chinese one.

The only thing that matters with this FAAZ or any other weapon we produce locally....is that we produce it LOCALLY. Which means that we can fire dozens of them in a single skirmish and not worry about getting MORE. That is what makes the weapon OURS. We get to produce it however we want, we get to modify it to our needs. Oh and this is me assuming for arguement sakes that its a total copy, which it clearly isn't.

That is all that matters. We don't give a rats ass if all our weapons are reskins of Chinese ones. As long as we have the ToT and we can make them quick and cheaper at home, we will fire them at you.

And when they crash into your Rafales, no one will say. "Haha, copy missile se maara!"

Can you actually produce it locally though? India is exporting BRAHMOS and it still requires some Russian "parts". But as long as it is "local"..

 

[Yasser76]

Can you actually produce it locally though? India is exporting BRAHMOS and it still requires some Russian "parts". But as long as it is "local"..

I think if we can produce a fighter locally and all types of ballastic missiles this will be well within our capabilities. As India has found out to it's cost several times

 

[Pak47]

Imagine the b1tching and whining when this fks them after amraam & PL15. Its 10x worse Izzaat loss just because it's made 100% in Pakistan. That's why they can't digest it and resorting to calling it an import because deep down they're trying to cope.

 

[RescueRanger]

You are most welcome to belive what you want to. If it makes you proud of your companies like GIDS and NESCOM.

I mean most of you still believe that JF 17 was jointly developed by Pakistan and China.

But even after developing such a successful fighter in such a short duration, you had to shelve PFX.

 

[studsmart]

honest question: why is FAAZ IIR with 120 KM max range so deadly? Please answer in simple terms. when we have AIM`120C5, SD10A/B and PL15. FAAZ IIR might have a similar range to that of the AIM-120C5 but is way short of the PL-15. Need ur openion

 

[Yasser76]

honest question: why is FAAZ IIR with 120 KM max range so deadly? Please answer in simple terms. when we have AIM`120C5, SD10A/B and PL15. FAAZ IIR might have a similar range to that of the AIM-120C5 but is way short of the PL-15. Need ur openion

Very advanced IR option, gives enemy another headache as compare to radar guided. Also IR always used to be mainly for WVR, MICA and FAAZ have changed that

 

[Michael]

Any knowledgeable person can tell the difference bw dual thrust and dual pulse motors?

In my previous reply, I misunderstood some points. The following is the answer you were looking for:

Dual-thrust:
Utilizes two different types of propellant to generate thrust at two distinct force levels.
Its speed changes during propulsion, but the engine does not stop working.

Dual-pulse:
Separated by an internal partition, the system is controlled to produce two distinct thrust phases.
The engine will ignite twice independently. There will be a period in between when the engine is completely inactive, and the aircraft will glide using inertia.

 

[studsmart]

Very advanced IR option, gives enemy another headache as compare to radar guided. Also IR always used to be mainly for WVR, MICA and FAAZ have changed that

In the long run, is a BVR missile attack still effective at medium range?
Can I replace the PL10? Can the JF-17 use it on its wingtip pylon?