Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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The SC said:
It is possible..It has been a while they said they wanted to create a security zone up there..Turkey did the same in Syria and Iraq using force..So it is possible..
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that si where arab states are cowardly shameful and disgraceful they had to support Hamas with full diplomatic force and cut of that manoeuvre from usa hands.
 
If Pakistan threatens Israel with multiple Nuclear strike until and unless it stops the continued genocide in Gaza, would that threat be successful, I know our so called leadership is sold out and cares only about making more dha plots but if we had a true self respecting leadership would such a threat made a difference?
 
Khansaheeb said:
These are 1 US ton bombs ie these are the equivalent to 1 US ton of TNT explosives, which they are dropping on childeren in tents. They should be called 1 ton bombs and not 2000lb bombs.
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Yes, calling them one ton bomb would more aptly bring home the horror of what these weapons really are.
 
Vault said:
If Pakistan threatens Israel with multiple Nuclear strike until and unless it stops the continued genocide in Gaza, would that threat be successful, I know our so called leadership is sold out and cares only about making more dha plots but if we had a true self respecting leadership would such a threat made a difference?
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It would not. Pakistan is more akin to a “defensive nuclear power” like Britain or North Korea; enough capacity to deter aggression against it, and not project power.

Pakistan need comprehensively competitive national power to even be the ballpark of talking like that. A GDP per capita akin to China or Mexico, and the industrial might and self sufficiency of a major industrial power to think that way. Besides, Pakistan is preoccupied with India, and leadership in dealing with the Palestinian issue falls upon the nations with comprehensive local power in the region; the Arab nations. Pakistan in that context would be an expeditionary power, limited in resupply. Similar to the difficulty of West Pakistan fighting India in 1971 in East Pakistan.

Empty Sabre rattling only attracts undue attention from a nation that also has nuclear weapons as well as has allies (including our primary rival, India) with nuclear weapons. Pakistan is better off fixing its economy, and building up both conventional and strategic forces, so it can support the Arab nations should they decide to act, the way it did in 1967 or 1973.

This is not the time for Pakistan to overextend itself in what would ultimately be just posturing. Turkey postures but within realistic limits, and even then it maintains the flow of Azeri oil/gas to Israel via their pipelines.
 
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Anza said:
Anza 3 can destroy drones helicopters and similar planes but to destroy high flying aircrafts you’ll need radars.Sam would need to be in the open so I would say no it will be easy picking for the Zionist.
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Atleast delivery them.those so they can hit the rescue helicopters, just like Israel hits the Ambulances.... But I guess it's too late now but they can surely help in future....
 
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There is no justifiable reason to destroy ambulances. This is clearly another war crime. Israel will be eventually be charged - problem is it will take years.
Absolute scum.
 
For posterity and future discussion, when Oslo is brought up, these are important clips, to explain what really happened and how it failed.

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The following from over 10 years ago. He lays out very important points, that external actors need to impose a peace if there is ever to be a two state solution, so IMHO Biden has to have the moral courage to get back to a serious effort in achieving:
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clutch said:
No such wall in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, etc. etc. thank God for Ireland....

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God bless the Irish people, their history from the humiliation of Potato famine through to the troubles - they understand the pain and suffering of the people of Palestine.
 

Germany’s arms transfers to Israel show ‘complicity’ in genocide​


Pellet has pointed to Article 3 under the UN’s Genocide Convention, which outlines “complicity in genocide” as a punishable act.

“Germany was aware and continues to be aware of the risk of the weapons they are furnishing could be used by Israel to commit genocide against the Palestinians,” said Pellet.

“It is extremely urgent that Germany suspend its aid they are supplying to Israel to this end. This aid and assistance are straight from the definition of ‘complicity’ set out in Article 3,” he added.

France’s Alain Pellet has finished outlining Nicaragua’s legal case against Germany, and Nicaragua’s Ambassador Gomez is now delivering the delegation’s concluding remarks.

“Professor Pellet has just explained how Germany’s conduct in relation to the ongoing situation in Palestine” does not meet its international law obligations, said Gomez. The case against

Germany falls under two broad headings, he said:
  • Germany’s responsibility for its failure to take action required by international law to prevent genocide and serious breaches of international humanitarian law.
  • Germany’s responsibility for its actions or omissions that have facilitated and continue to facilitate the commission of genocide and serious breaches of international humanitarian law.
 
Truly paragons of faith can be found in Gaza:
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The Great Mosque of Gaza lies partially in ruins as Palestinians gather to read the Quran during the last days of Ramadan, in Gaza City. [Dawoud Abo Alkas/Anadolu]

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Palestinians gather to pray on the night of Laylat al-Qadr near the debris of al-Faruq Mosque in Rafah, southern Gaza. [Jehad Alshrafi/Anadolu]

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Palestinians gather to pray Friday prayers near the debris of al-Faruq Mosque in Rafah, southern Gaza. [Jehad Alshrafi/Anadolu]

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A displaced Palestinian woman reads the Quran during the last days of Ramadan, in a tent camp in Deir el-Balah. [Ashraf Amra/Anadolu]

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Palestinians displaced from their homes in Gaza for almost six months observed Ramadan in makeshift tents, under limited means and difficult conditions. [Ashraf Amra/Anadolu]
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A Palestinian family break their fast on a diet consisting manily of a type of grass - the desperate parents lie to their children and say it is Jute Mallow soup.

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A Palestinian woman decorates her family's tent in Deir el-Balah. [Ashraf Amra/Anadolu]

It will be remiss of me to not call these people beyond heroic, their stoicism, their devotion and loyalty to their faith and purpose is truly humbling and inspiring at the same time.

So it is at this time I am reminded of a famous Pakistani naghma (song) titled "Aye Rah-e-Haq Ke Shaheedo" that is dedicated to martyr's which applies to these gem among humans perfectly. [Truly Allah knows best].

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Translation for those who cannot understand the lyrics.

Ae rahe haq k shaheedo
Oh martyrs who have sacrificed for the sake of truth

wafa ki tasweero
You are the embodiment of loyalty

tumhain watan ki hwaen salam kehti hein
The breezes of your homeland bid you farewell

Allah Hooo...
Allah is great

lgane aag jo aye the aashyany ko
The fires that came to the nest

wo sholay apne laho se bujha dye tmne
You extinguished those flames with your blood

bcha liya he yateemi se kitne phoolon ko
You saved many flowers from the orphans

suhaag kiyni baharon k rkh liye tmne
You preserved the spring of love

tumhain chaman ki fizaen slam kehti hein
The atmosphere of the garden salutes you

aye rahe haq k shaheeso
Oh martyrs who stood for the truth

chly jo hogy shahadat ka jam pee kr tum
When you drank the cup of martyrdom and departed

Rasool e Pak ne bahon me le liya hoga
The Prophet of Islam must have embraced you

Hussain e Pak ne irshad ye kia hoga
Imam Hussain must have said

tumhein khuda ki razaen salam kehti hein
God's approval greets you

ae rahe haq k shaheedo...
Oh martyrs who sacrificed for the sake of truth
 
BTW, the genocidal warfare being imposed on the Gazans are putting them on Fatal Terrain/Death Ground.

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