Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

[HamidAgha]

They will face complete isolation and extreme sanctions. Its best for them to copy Israel, build nukes but don't test them.

Exactly. Anyone who says test a nuke is actually either not very smart or wants Iran to fail. Iran must keep the element of surprise till the end.

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

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By that logic India and Pakistan are fighting on Ukraine side. .

 

[UKBengali]

They will face complete isolation and extreme sanctions. Its best for them to copy Israel, build nukes but don't test them.

There is nothing further that US/West can do to Iran to significantly harm it economically.

China, Russia and potentially India won't go along with sanctions.

With China and Russia on its side, Iran has little to lose.

 

[lacy]

Exactly. Anyone who says test a nuke is actually either not very smart or wants Iran to fail. Iran must keep the element of surprise till the end.

The point of possessing nukes is to let others know about it so that you have nuclear deterrence. There's no element of surprise with nukes. That idea defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

However, it's another debate if disclosing your nuclear arsenal is in your best interest considering the political and economical ramifications.

 

[PakAl]

The point of possessing nukes is to let others know about it so that you have nuclear deterrence. There's no element of surprise with nukes. That idea defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

However, it's another debate if disclosing your nuclear arsenal is in your best interest considering the political and economical ramifications.

He meant to say how Israel has done it, we all know they possess it but will not deny or admit.

 

[PakAl]

There is nothing further that US/West can do to Iran to significantly harm it economically.

China, Russia and potentially India won't go along with sanctions.

With China and Russia on its side, Iran has little to lose.

They will, Iran will be North Korea in terms of economy. Iran still Imports and exports from Turkey, Germany, France, GCC, Malaysia etc, extreme USA/EU pressure will isolate Iran totally. Usa must be waiting till oil/gas is not needed anymore, this will hit Iran. Hopefully Iran has plans to diversify economy.

 

[UKBengali]

They will, Iran will be North Korea in terms of economy. Iran still Imports and exports from Turkey, Germany, France, GCC, Malaysia etc, extreme USA/EU pressure will isolate Iran totally. Usa must be waiting till oil/gas is not needed anymore, this will hit Iran. Hopefully Iran has plans to diversify economy.

No it won't.

China and Russia won't obey any western sanctions.

India probably will go along with them but they are not as important as China and Russia.

Stop thinking about the past as this is 2024. West is not as powerful as it was even 10 years.

Iran has a very diversified economy and is energy independent with huge agricultural resources and it can decide to take the hit now in order for long term strategic gains.

 

[A1Kaid]

Tough situation for Iran. There are 2 variables here, attack approach: direct or indirect, and attacker: proxy or Iran itself.

No attack and Iran will appear pathetically weak (in most cases).

Attack by proxy (bare minimum), you do some damage but you’ll be perceived as weak and limited.

Attack directly, Iran will appear firm, but faces getting deeper into the conflict. The type of attack will determine whether Iran is truly strong or not.

No matter the option, there will be internal disagreements within Iran. No matter what Iranians should unite in whatever action they take if they choose to do so.

IMO, the best approach Iran can take here is a direct attack on Israeli assets (military or government installations). Combined with proxy attacks. Iran has to show Israel it will pay a heavy price if it continues.

Not attacking will only further embolden Israel and lead to further killings of Iranians generals and scientists. Ultimately it sets the stage for direct Israeli attacks on Iran itself, which Iran has successfully deterred so far.

Israel will of course retaliate in some form (likely armed force) Iran at that point should just defend or counter attack depending how heavy the reaction is.

In the meantime, Iran should be strengthening their alliances…

 

[HamidAgha]

The point of possessing nukes is to let others know about it so that you have nuclear deterrence. There's no element of surprise with nukes. That idea defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

However, it's another debate if disclosing your nuclear arsenal is in your best interest considering the political and economical ramifications.

Your second paragraph refutes your first one. But if we take your first paragraph in isolation, then if Iran were to test a nuke only having the ability to produce a handful of warheads then the detterance may not be enough for US or even Israel. It would only work if Iran has already amassed a large enough stockpile to do such an act. But still, more economic isolation and alienting existing allies would still be very much on the cards no matter what.

 

[battalion25]

Here is my take Iran should attack intelligently... And make Israel piss in their pants but don't attack with airstrikes or missiles it is irrelevance that will just give them the intention that it is not serious and tit for tat strikes which is bullshxt..

Learn from the Turks in this case........ make an agreement with Iraq and Syria to give you passage of land meaning threaten a conventional conflict.

Everyday Iran most start moving logistics, tanks, armoured vehicles towards the Iraq border and thru Iraq's Abu Kamal into South Syria Deira area. Iran most mobilize approx 400.000 forces and bring them closer to the golan heights plus recruit from Iraq 400.000 volunteers and another 300.000 men from Lebanon and Syria that is over 1.1 mllion men if you add Hezbollah and Hamas cells in South Lebanon. Make sure everyday to post images of large conveys headed towards the front. Their throats will reach their mouths and they will call wastington crying.. It would be doomsday for them.

Now Israel will realize this is no joke and an existential threat of epic porportions if these forces move towards Wallahi they will not face defeat but overwhelm an already destroy israeli armed forces. Iran should conduct from their strikes on Israel and if they respond move in but they won't respond when you are so close an just need an excuse to conduct an incursion

1.1 Million forces armed to the teeth ready to throw down will be the worst nightmare ever.. They can't defeat Hamas conventionally who have destroyed nearly 90% of their forces do you think they can fight another conventional war of this porportions the answer is hell no

 

[OldTwilight]

Tomorrow is eid Fitr and there will be public prayer attended by all officials , so it was not wise to start military operation before completing such important rituals.

 

[Xerxes22]

Tomorrow is eid Fitr and there will be public prayer attended by all officials , so it was not wise to start military operation before completing such important rituals.

Yeah since they have waited, they should wait after eid. But A quicker response might have deterred Israel from responding. Now I am pretty sure If Iran doesnt hit them very hard israel will strike inside Iran.

 

[OldTwilight]

Yeah since they have waited, they should wait after eid. But A quicker response might have deterred Israel from responding. Now I am pretty sure If Iran doesnt hit them very hard israel will strike inside Iran.

They asked for war, which can continue for months or years, there is no point of entering a war without being prepared ....

and there is no point in quick respond if it is not hard and painful ...

Israel is like a cornered beast right now, we should strike, but we should wait till they get relaxed and then we strike ...

The Imam in eid fitr prayer will be the supreme leader ...

نماز عید فطر به امامت رهبر انقلاب اقامه می شود

درهای مصلای امام خمینی(ره) تهران بعد از اذان صبح روز عید فطر بازگشایی و برنامه‌ها از ساعت ۶ و ۳۰ دقیقه آغاز می‌شود.

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[Mr Iran Eye]

Northern Front: Haifa Mayor asks residents to prepare for imminent war.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Eid is coming tomorrow and for after Eid I hope for a major surprising attack 🌪✡🌪