Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

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Hitting Israeli embassies in other countries would be the safest bet and seen as a tit for tat reaction. With the ball then in Israeli court on whether they want to escalate..
Attacking Israel directly would be an unnecessary escalation, let them be in heightened alert for months.. and suffer fatigue..
Israel is at war with Syria

Iran is not at war with any neighbours that host an Israeli embassy
 
Assad has big debt to Iran due to civil war he choses. Syria is not a respected country it used to be......
yes Syria chose to have a civil war, nothing to do with hundreds of thousands of jihadists from around the world pouring into Syria to establish an Islamic Caliphate, or Qatar, Turkey and Saudi pouring billions of $ of weapons and funds into Islamist militant groups to fight against the Syrian Government

god knows what Syria would be today without Iran and with Al Nusra in Damascus
 
yes Syria chose to have a civil war, nothing to do with hundreds of thousands of jihadists from around the world pouring into Syria to establish an Islamic Caliphate, or Qatar, Turkey and Saudi pouring billions of $ of weapons and funds into Islamist militant groups to fight against the Syrian Government

god knows what Syria would be today without Iran and with Al Nusra in Damascus
I said the mistake is made by Assad. Civil war he choses has lead to that situation to exist
 
I said the mistake is made by Assad. Civil war he choses has lead to that situation to exist
I know what you said

and I said it had nothing to do with hundreds of thousands of jihadists from around the world pouring into Syria to establish an Islamic Caliphate, or Qatar, Turkey and Saudi pouring billions of $ of weapons and funds into Islamist militant groups to fight against the Syrian Government. Syrian Government just woke up and decided to start civil war one day according to some people
 
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Assad? How was it Assad's fault?
He should have step down like the way Soeharto step down and avoid civil war to happen.

There is Indonesia who has adopted democracy, Syria should have made Indonesia as the helper to set up their free and fair election. We will likely be trusted by both their Sunni and Shiah group.
 
this is a factor but in reality 1) iran will not use its best missiles in the first round since it doesn't want total escalation and 2) iran can resort to saturation strikes which will remain effective deterrence since iran has much more MRBMs than Israel has ABMs
ABM:
3 bty with Arrow 2/3 ATBM with Green Pine/Super Green
Pine radar

Long range:
4 bty with M901 Patriot PAC-2

Medium range:
2 bty with David’s Sling

Short range:
10 bty with Iron Dome
 
ABM:
3 bty with Arrow 2/3 ATBM with Green Pine/Super Green
Pine radar

Long range:
4 bty with M901 Patriot PAC-2

Medium range:
2 bty with David’s Sling

Short range:
10 bty with Iron Dome
I think they have THAAD as well, but probably very few. how many launchers per battery?

Fattah-1/2 should be mass produced for specific role of targeting Patriot, Arrow and David Sling ABM launchers and radars. particularly TPY-2 and Green Pine radars. Even using dozens of cheaper missiles to target one such radar in a saturation strike would be worth it
 
ABM:
3 bty with Arrow 2/3 ATBM with Green Pine/Super Green
Pine radar

Long range:
4 bty with M901 Patriot PAC-2

Medium range:
2 bty with David’s Sling

Short range:
10 bty with Iron Dome

One intriguing thing is this article in which they say that Iran can create an A2AD layer:
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I wonder what systems would be used for this. A big factor of contention between Syria and Russia is Russian passivity in not shooting down Israeli aircraft, perhaps Syria will run to Iran to create its own A2AD layer with Iranian systems:
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I saw here that Iran has a dense anti-aircraft layer.

Army:
Short range:
FM-80 (CH-SA-4)

Point defense:
9K36 Strela-3 (RS-SA-14 Gremlin)/9K32 Strela-2 (RS-SA-7 Grail)
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2(QW-18)
9K338 Igla-S (RS-SA-24 Grinch)
HN-5A (CH-SA-3)

Guns:
23mm 100 ZSU-23-4
57mm 80 ZSU-57-2
14.5mm ZPU-2/ZPU-4
23mm ZU-23-2
35mm GDF-002
37mm M-1939
40mm L/70
57mm S-60
85mm M-1939

IRGC Aerospace Force:

Medium range:
Mersad
Kamin-2
Raad 1/2
Khordad
Talaash

Point defense:
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2 (QW-18)

Quds Air Defense Force:
Long range:
S-200 Angara (RS-SA-5 Gammon)
S-300PMU2 (RS-SA-20 Gargoyle)
Bavar-373
Sayyad 4/4B

Medium range:
Sayyad 3
50 MIM-23B I-Hawk/Shahin
HQ-2 (CH-SA-1)
Talash
Khordad

Short range:
FM-80 (CH-SA-4)
9K331 Tor-M1 (RS-SA-15 Gauntlet)
Sayyad 1/2/3
Dezful
Tabas

Point defense:
Rapier
Ya Zahra
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2(QW-18)
Guns:
23mm ZU-23-2
35mm GDF-002

Was something missing?
 
I saw here that Iran has a dense anti-aircraft layer.

Army:
Short range:
FM-80 (CH-SA-4)

Point defense:
9K36 Strela-3 (RS-SA-14 Gremlin)/9K32 Strela-2 (RS-SA-7 Grail)
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2(QW-18)
9K338 Igla-S (RS-SA-24 Grinch)
HN-5A (CH-SA-3)

Guns:
23mm 100 ZSU-23-4
57mm 80 ZSU-57-2
14.5mm ZPU-2/ZPU-4
23mm ZU-23-2
35mm GDF-002
37mm M-1939
40mm L/70
57mm S-60
85mm M-1939

IRGC Aerospace Force:
Medium range:
Mersad
Kamin-2
Raad 1/2
Khordad
Talaash

Point defense:
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2 (QW-18)

Quds Air Defense Force:
Long range:
S-200 Angara (RS-SA-5 Gammon)
S-300PMU2 (RS-SA-20 Gargoyle)
Bavar-373
Sayyad 4/4B

Medium range:
Sayyad 3
50 MIM-23B I-Hawk/Shahin
HQ-2 (CH-SA-1)
Talash
Khordad

Short range:
FM-80 (CH-SA-4)
9K331 Tor-M1 (RS-SA-15 Gauntlet)
Sayyad 1/2/3
Dezful
Tabas

Point defense:
Rapier
Ya Zahra
Misaq 1 (QW-1)/Misaq 2(QW-18)
Guns:
23mm ZU-23-2
35mm GDF-002

Was something missing?
What is "Quds Air Defense Force" ?

the list doesn't really make sense. Sayyad-4/4B are missiles of Bavar-373 so not sure why they are included separately.

Also missing: Arman, Mehran, Khordad-15, 9th Dey, Zubin and probably some others.
 
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